geiger readings in excess of 100 cpm or 0,70 uSv/hr in rain

I'm in contact with people scattered around the country that are finding what they believe to be readings on their geigers higher than could be explained by radon progeny; indeed, the explanation for geiger readings on this board does not show levels as high as 100+ cpm. Does the BRAWM team believe that these levels are also due to naturally occuring fluctuations? the latest reading (today) from Virginia is 113 cpm measured in rainwater in a container.

thanks

Radon progeny in precipitation

Hi, thanks for the question. Are you referring to my writeup on a measurement of radioactivity of a swipe of a metal surface after it rained? The writeup can be found at this link, and I will repeat some of its content here.

Rain is known to "scrub" the decay products of radon gas out of the atmosphere and deposit them on the ground. So it is not unusual to find measurable radioactivity in rain.

The absolute amount of the radioactivity is not helpful for distinguishing between different possible sources. For example, I measured only 45 counts per minute above background for my rain swipe, but that number will depend on various things: the detector I used, how large an area I wiped down, the concentration of radon decay products that had been in the air, etc.

What really matters, as BC alluded to, is the decay time of the radioactivity. The decay time can be ascertained very quickly, since the total activity of the decay products of radon gas should decay away with a half-life of about 30 minutes. This is due to the betas and gammas from Lead-214 (27 minute half-life) and Bismuth-214 (20 minute half-life). This half-life is far too short to be due to material transported from Japan.

Here is the decay curve of the rain activity I measured. I took 10-minute counts for about 3 hours:


As for snow, there is a nice blog post on Safecast.org where they measure snow in Japan with a Geiger counter and conclude that the radioactivity is due to radon decay products. They say that they measured rates "up to 10 times background," but the activity decayed away to background in "around 25–30 minutes."

You might also be interested in a measurement someone made of an air filter from their home — just like rain, air filters also collect radon decay products from the air. Initially he saw about 1000 counts per minute above background. The thread is here, and his data was also fit very well by a radon progeny decay model:


Please let me know if this explanation makes sense.

Mark [BRAWM Team Member]

yeah, that makes sense. I was

yeah, that makes sense. I was referring to your explanation and I was just pointing out that the spikes people see of 7x background were higher than your example. it seems like this example of the person with the air filter addresses this.

so was Gunderson inaccurate when he commented that spikes were being seen in BC last year from the burning of radioactive material in Japan?

thanks for your help, another claim I've seen lately is that the radon could be a product of the decay of Ur 238/235 from the MOX fuel, but it looks like for that to be the case there would have to be an observed amount of Ur in the that could be attributable to Fukushima, and not from our own coal burning plants and naturally occurring Ur.

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No problem, glad that information was useful.

so was Gunderson inaccurate when he commented that spikes were being seen in BC last year from the burning of radioactive material in Japan?

Yes, that was not true. Based on our measurements and others, the radioactivity in North American rain never had enough radioactivity from Fukushima to be detectable with a Geiger counter. The highest amounts of radioactivity due to Fukushima in rain was in the latter half of March 2011 after the major radioactive releases occurred. But even those amounts were far too small to detect with a Geiger counter. Also, we saw firsthand with our own rainwater samples that there haven't been detectable levels of fission products from Fukushima since April 20, 2011 in our area.

Another dimension to this is that if there had been even trace levels of non-natural radioactivity in rain, all sorts of official sources would have noticed and would have been asking where it came from. This kind of situation happened in Europe last November when very low levels of Iodine-131 were detected in air in the Czech Republic and other parts of Europe, then the IAEA was able to ascertain that it was caused by a release from a medical isotope facility in Hungary. These sorts of situations cannot be covered up since there is so much monitoring going on all over the world.

another claim I've seen lately is that the radon could be a product of the decay of Ur 238/235 from the MOX fuel

That claim is wrong. Even if there were trace particles of reactor fuel around (and I am not aware of definitive proof of this), this could not cause any increase in radon. Nuclear fuel is actually really bad at producing radon since there's hardly any Radium-226 in it. Radium-226, a decay product of U-238, is responsible for producing radon gas (specifically, Rn-222). Ra-226 production is hindered by multiple bottlenecks in the decay chain between U-238/U-234 (both in nuclear fuel) and Ra-226: U-234 has a 245,500 year half-life, meaning that it takes a long time to produce the next isotope down, Th-230; then Th-230 has a 75,000 year half-life to decay to Ra-226; then Ra-226 itself has a 1600 year half-life to decay into Rn-222.

However, there is Ra-226 in the soil and rocks all around us since natural uranium has had billions of years to overcome those bottlenecks to produce it. This natural radium can produce radon in abundance. When we have measured soil, we have found about 15 decays of Ra-226 per second per kilogram, and that's about typical for soil. Each decay of Ra-226 produces an atom of Rn-222, so a cubic meter of soil produces roughly 22,000 atoms of Rn-222 every second, many of which diffuse to the surface. In the air, this ends up amounting to a typical radioactivity concentration of 0.4 picocuries per liter of air outdoors, or 15 radon decays per second in a cubic meter of air (source: the EPA). Each radon decay leads to a chain of further alpha and beta decays until the nucleus reaches Lead-206, which is stable. These decay products are collected by rainfall and yield radiation that can be seen by Geiger counters.

So the bottom line is that radon has always been in our environment in larger quantities than many people realize. Fukushima did not — and cannot — add radon to the environment.

Mark [BRAWM Team Member]

*highest levels recorded in

*highest levels recorded in VA are 178.8 cpm in snow.

Here's the litmus test

What do the measurements look like in 48 hours?

BS 2/29/12

right

I've encouraged the folks to try to determine decay rates...none established so far.