NRC Wants 100 Times Higher Acceptable Exposure Level
The NRC is battling the EPA in order to increase the 'acceptable' public exposure limit to 100 times more than currently 'acceptable' in the case of a severe nuclear power plant accident. The NRC has already limited liability to the owners of the nuclear power plants to the resources of that plant alone (the melted down one), and now they want to increase the amount of allowable public exposure. BRAWM members, will this new 100 fold increase in the acceptable radiation exposure be acceptable for you and your children? View Arnie Gunderson's current post; also includes discussion on the fallacy of the MACCS2 method of exposure analysis which the NRC uses and it's designer has repudiated. GIGO: Garbage In, Garbage Out.
"Are Regulators And The Nuclear Industry Applying The Valuable Lessons Learned From Fukushima?"
http://fairewinds.com/content/are-regulators-and-nuclear-industry-applyi...


Hot Earth
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terra fervesco
It is noted that the Cesium-134 concentration in the Red Zone exceeds 3,000 Bq/M?2 and that the Cesium-137 similarly exceeds the red maximum value.
Thus the cumulative value, in much of the red area exceeds 6,000 Bq/M?.
It is also noted that the inner radius, near the Fukushima Daiichi Power Plant Campus is 'hatch-marked' rather than red, and indicated to be incomplete. Presumably that can be interpreted to be quite hot earth.
It would be appropriate at some point to provide public access to composite maps of the seabed radionuclide concentrations as well as the soil radionuclide concentrations.
Accipe quam primum, brevis est occasio lucri.
Soil Cesium Concentrations
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Map of Radioactive Cesium Concentration in Soil
http://radioactivity.mext.go.jp/en/1270/2011/08/1270_083014-2.pdf
Corrections to the Readings of Airborne Monitoring Surveys (Soil Concentration Map) based on the Prepared Distribution Map of Radiation Doses, etc. (Map of Radioactive Cesium Concentration in Soil) by MEXT(August 30, 2011)?PDF:2750KB?
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Reasonably Adequate DATA
THIS is what DATA looks like …
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/radiation/dir/mstreet/commeet/meet6/brief6/...
The Kiwi Transient Nuclear Test (Kiwi-TNT) was a controlled power excursion in which reactivity was inserted into a nuclear rocket engine prototype at an unusually high rate calculated to vaporize a significant portion of the reactor core. The objectives of this simulated reactor accident were to examine the material and neutronic behavior of the reactor and to study the effects of the radiation and radioactive materials released. The reactor, including the core and pressure vessel, was, with few exceptions, a typical, late model Kiwi-B4. The test was conducted at the Nuclear Rocket Development Station (NRDS), Jackass Flats, on January 12, 1965, at 1058 PST.
The Southwestern Radiological Health Laboratory (SWRHL) of the USPHS provided off-site radiation surveillance by aerial tracking of the effluent cloud, monitoring radiation dosage of the off-site population, and collecting environmental samples in southern Nevada and California. Twelve ground monitoring teams equipped with portable instruments tracked the cloud passage. Dose-rate recording instruments were placed at eight downwind locations bracketing the anticipated path of the effluent cloud. Film badges were issued to 157 people in Lathrop Wells, Amargosa Desert, and Death Valley. Forty-five routine air samplers were operated in Nevada, Utah, Arizopa, and California, supplemented by 18 samplers at anticipated downwind locations. All these high-volume air samplers were equipped with filter papers and charcoal cartridges. An Air Force U3-A aircraft carrying two USPHS monitors tracked the reactor effluent and assisted in positioning ground monitors. Two other pHS aircraft containing sampling equipment were used in cloud tracking, although their primary purpose was to determine cloud size and inventory.
The Kiwi-TNT reactor was "exploded" in the sense that it was a violent disruption and dispersion of an original intact object. It blew up in an unusual fashion resembling neither a typical nuclear detonation nor most types of chemical explosions. To give a better understanding of the eruption, its characteristics will be compared to those of more common explosions. The deflagration accompanying the Kiwi-TNT excursion was the result of rapid vaporization of part of the carbon-uranium- carbide core.The thermal release and the extremely high temperatures occurring during the excursion are results associated almost exclusively with nuclear reactions. The charring of wooden poles as far away as 70 ft and the brilliant mass of hot, burning graphite are phenomena not usually seen in explosions.
During the Kiwi-TNT excursion, however, the fission rate was deliberately increased so that the resulting heat could not be transferred fast enough to avoid vaporizing significant amounts of the beads and their surrounding graphite. The pressures resulting from this vaporization caused destruction of the reactor. Other experiments have shown that there is a critical fission density rate below which vaporization does not occur, since heat transfer is adequate to prevent it. It is also known that fission density rate is not uniform throughout the reactor core, but is highest at the center and diminishes towards the ends. Furthermore, neutronics calculations showed that some regions of the Kiwi-TNT core experienced fission density rates above, and others below, the crucial values. Thus, it may be hypothesized that, as reactivity was rapidly inserted into the reactor, the fission density rate at the center of the core exceeded the critical value and vapor began to form in and around the fuel beads. The vapor formed too fast to escape through core interstices.
To determine the contribution of each individual source or radiation (i.e., prompt, neutron, cloud, or contamination) to the total personnel exposure at given distances in the vicinity of an accidental excursion similar to the Kiwi-TNT, the following exercise was performed. Reference to Table IX will aid in following this discussion. The dose measured by the integral dosimeter at each station was recorded. From this was subtracted a contribution attributable to prompt gamma radiation derived from previous tests of Kiwi reactors (Fig. 30). The value of rads/MW-sec was 70% of the total rads/MW-sec measured on previous tests. The difference between the total dose and the prompt gamma dose is then due to doses from the debris cloud and ground contamination. The numerical integral of the dose-rate data (beyond 1/2 minute for scintillator stations, beyond 2 minutes for other stations) was taken as the contribution from ground contamination.
DATA ACQUISITION
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THIS is what DATA ACQUISITION looks like …
The Kiwi Transient Nuclear Test (Kiwi-TNT) was conducted at the Nuclear Rocket Development Station (NRDS), Jackass Flats, on January 12, 1965, at 1058 PST.
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/radiation/dir/mstreet/commeet/meet6/brief6/...
The Southwestern Radiological Health Laboratory (SWRHL) of the USPHS provided off-site radiation surveillance by aerial tracking of the effluent cloud, monitoring radiation dosage of the off-site population, and collecting environmental samples in southern Nevada and California.
Twelve ground monitoring teams equipped with portable instruments tracked the cloud passage.
Dose-rate recording instruments were placed at eight downwind locations bracketing the anticipated path of the effluent cloud.
Film badges were issued to 157 people in Lathrop Wells, Amargosa Desert, and Death Valley.
Forty-five routine air samplers were operated in Nevada, Utah, Arizopa, and California, supplemented by 18 samplers at anticipated downwind locations. All these high-volume air samplers were equipped with filter papers and charcoal cartridges.
An Air Force U3-A aircraft carrying two USPHS monitors tracked the reactor effluent and assisted in positioning ground monitors.
Two other pHS aircraft containing sampling equipment were used in cloud tracking, although their primary purpose was to determine cloud size and inventory.
Adequate Methodology
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This is what methodology looks like:
To determine the contribution of each individual source or radiation (i.e., prompt, neutron, cloud, or contamination) to the total personnel exposure at given distances in the vicinity of an accidental excursion similar to the Kiwi-TNT, the following exercise was performed.
The dose measured by the integral dosimeter at each station was recorded. From this was subtracted a contribution attributable to prompt gamma radiation derived from previous tests of Kiwi reactors.
The value of rads/MW-sec was 70% of
the total rads/MW-sec measured on previous tests. The difference between the total dose and the prompt gamma dose is then due to doses from the debris cloud and ground contamination.
The numerical integral of the dose-rate data (beyond 1/2 minute for scintillator stations, beyond 2 minutes for other stations) was taken as the contribution from ground contamination.
The proper way to conduct an investigation
This is the way investigations into radio-logical releases were in 1970:
Link
effective dose
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Appendix F Internal Dose Estimates from NTS Fallout
The Figure 23 Effective Dose Map is effective
http://www.cdc.gov/nceh/radiation/fallout/feasibilitystudy/Appendices_Vo...
Fig. 23.
Map of the effective dose by geographical area for the tests conducted in the year 1955.
F-32
http://www.osti.gov/bridge/servlets/purl/6308958-kjIBKd/6308958.pdf
http://www.osti.gov/bridge/servlets/purl/6308958-kjIBKd/
STONE WALLING
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The data acquisition resources and data analysis methodologies, in the KIWI TNT represent appropriate efforts to gather and report a nuclear reactor breach.
Thus by contrast, the obfuscating efforts of TEPCO, CTBTO, Japan, USA and/or the unindicted Nuclear Power Industry criminals, represent STONE WALLING.
You do realize that this was
You do realize that this was a controlled experiment? Most of the techniques used are not available when an accident happens because they are not prepared for it. Also, this will not happen with a nuclear reactor since you cannot get this massive burst of reactivity that occurred during the kiwi test. Much of the data available shows no recriticality event. Just because they do not have as much data as during a controlled experiment does not mean they are hiding data.
DUH
Well we ALSO recognize STONEWALLING when we see it ...
And that Obama 'bugged out' to Patagonia, with his family, based on the 'situation on the ground'at the Fukushima Daiichi Electrical Generation station.
And that the USA military evacuated all dependents from Japan. GE plant inspectors ran like rabbits, as did the USS Ronald Reagan. Duck and Cover was the military 'order of the day'.
Meanwhile the propaganda machines in Japan, the USA and across the North Pacific, cranked out the 'All Clear' to the exposed civilian populations.
Data of what? Massive
Data of what? Massive reactivity insertion?
Blind
So the various governments and the CTBT Organization continue to stonewall the Fukushima Daiichi Unit-3 explosion.
And in the ABSENCE of evidence ... up jumps the math section.
WE MUST BELIEVE ...
A MOX fueled atomic explosion is 'IMPOSSIBLE'.
Skepticism and/or suspended judgement is verbotten.
Sounds like church ... BLIND faith and all.
What a crock ...
Get a life ... Oh, and please pass the DATA.
Don't believe in Science?
WE MUST BELIEVE ...
A MOX fueled atomic explosion is 'IMPOSSIBLE'.
Skepticism and/or suspended judgement is verbotten.
Sounds like church ... BLIND faith and all.
What a crock ...
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So you don't believe in Science?
Suppose someone tells you that your car can't run on a mixture that is 1% gasoline and 99% water; that it is IMPOSSIBLE to get the engine to run.
Do you say, "That's just blind faith."
NO - it's not blind faith; it's science. Automotive engineers know what your engine can and can not use as fuel. A mix that is 99% water won't work in your engine. Do you not believe that the engineers that design your car actually do know what will and will not work as fuel.
There's a difference between being skeptical, and being stupid. If there is a total lack of expertise; then you can be skeptical. However, when people who are trained in the technical field like automotive engineers or nuclear scientists tell you that physical laws prevent something from happening, then doubting that isn't being skeptical, it is being stupid.
Evidently you would have us believe that anything is possible, even when forbidden by the laws of Physics. Sorry, but humankind has a wealth of knowledge as to what the laws of Physics say can and can't be done.
Just because you've never studied the Physics; doesn't mean that people who are more intelligent and better educated than you don't know the answers.
Figures DO NOT LIE
Certainly, I have studied math and physics in accredited academic institutions.
One, early piece of advice was ...
"Figures DO NOT LIE, but liars do a lot of figuring."
Very sound advice, indeed.
I believe the...
I believe the correct form of that maxim is:
Figures never lie; but liars sure can figure.
However, you can't be so jaded as to discount the explanations of disinterested experts.
Listen to the arguments. If you have some technical acumen; then why don't you damn well use it to evaluate the scientific arguments offered.
It doesn't do you or anyone else any good to just dismiss any and all arguments out of hand and say "I'm a skeptic".
If you have a problem with an argument; a portion you think is wrong; ask questions. Did you ever consider that perhaps YOU are the one in the wrong?
The Scorpion's Nature
Actually, the lying in perpetuity, by the Pro-nuclear power shills, have somewhat weakened my already tepid support for continued use of the technology in electrical power generation applications.
The difficulty is akin to KNOWING that the banker is stealing money from the bank and depositors accounts. There comes a time to locate another place for safekeeping the cash.
The greenie/hippies are also misrepresenting the hazard level. But they are not actively causing radioactive health hazards.
Thus, I am moving slightly toward 'Monitoring The Situation' (MTS) as the nuclear power generation industry, implodes. MTS is ... doing nothing.
The overall effect is ... I am doing less. Nuclear generation of electrical power is not some virtue to be defended, or some purely beneficial technology to be nurtured. The proponents and players are simply too morally reprehensible to assist. It is their nature, like the old story of the frog and the scorpion.
I'd like to hear...
Actually, the lying in perpetuity, by the Pro-nuclear power shills, have somewhat weakened my already tepid support for continued use of the technology in electrical power generation applications.
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I'd like to hear one of the lies from the Pro-nuke power shills.
Many times I've heard what people thought was a lie from the pro-nuke side;
like "Mother nature is responsible for more background radiation that nuclear power plants". They thought that was a pro-nuke lie; when it happens to be true.
Nuclear Shills
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Scandal Taints Japan Nuclear Sector
Japanese officials and electric utilities stage-managed public forums on nuclear power.
Wall Street Journal ASIA NEWS AUGUST 13, 2011 By CHESTER DAWSON
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405311190482380457649994244200730...
After a series of disclosures in recent weeks painting government regulators and electric utilities as collaborating to stage-manage public community forums on local nuclear power, efforts to restart idled Japanese nuclear reactors have screeched to a halt.
The flap, stems from an early-morning meeting on June 21 between Saga Gov. Yasushi Furukawa and three executives of Kyushu Electric. Gov. Furukawa now says that he urged the executives at that meeting to line up supportive voices from the industry in advance of the June 26 event and "use the Internet" during the public forum, to ensure that pro-nuclear views got an airing.
Later that day, the three Kyushu Electric officials discussed the governor's request over lunch in a local soba-noodle shop, where one jotted down notes. That memo called for participation in the forum, ideally "from home personal computers," and was disseminated to 100 midlevel utility employees, who then spread the message to hundreds of others internally and externally.
At the June public forum, there were 286 opinions in support of restarting the reactors and 163 opposed. Japanese media have reported that more than 140 of the supporting comments were directly attributable to pressure from Kyushu Electric, enough to tip the balance. That "consensus" was used by government officials as a reason to move ahead with a restart.
"AstroTurf" campaign
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Now, a total of seven electric utilities have acknowledged they sent employees to make up as much as half the audience in regional community forums in incidents going back to 2005, according to a report by the Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry issued on July 27.
Chubu Electric Power Co. and Shikoku Electric Power Co. said they were ordered to do so by the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency (NISA), ostensibly the government's chief nuclear watchdog. Economy, Trade and Industry Minister Banri Kaieda, who oversees the agency, admitted to, and apologized for, those actions by officials. At a parliamentary hearing where he was berated by opposition lawmakers for his handling of the mushrooming scandal, Mr. Kaieda broke down in tears.
The "AstroTurf"—or fake-grass-roots—campaigns, which ranged from packing events with supporters to planting questions and orchestrating email drives, have now badly backfired, sparking public outrage that has made it difficult to restart any reactors taken down for regular maintenance checks over the past five months.
The disclosures prompted Prime Minister Naoto Kan last week to label NISA a "lobby" of the utilities, and spurred the government to propose breaking up NISA by removing its nuclear industry oversight responsibilities and handing them over to the environment ministry.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/env
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/jun/30/british-government-pla...
British government officials approached nuclear companies to draw up a co-ordinated public relations strategy to play down the Fukushima nuclear accident just two days after the earthquake and tsunami in Japan and before the extent of the radiation leak was known.
Internal emails seen by the Guardian show how the business and energy departments worked closely behind the scenes with the multinational companies EDF Energy, Areva and Westinghouse to try to ensure the accident did not derail their plans for a new generation of nuclear stations in the UK.
Call For Resignation
Call for Chris Huhne to resign over Fukushima emails
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/jul/01/huhne-fukushima-emails-criticism
Andy Myles, A prominent Liberal Democrat has called for Chris Huhne to resign immediately as energy and climate change secretary after emails were released detailing his officials' efforts to co-ordinate a PR response to the Fukushima disaster with the nuclear industry. Civil servants in the energy and business departments were apparently trying to minimise the impact of the disaster on public support for nuclear power.
"This deliberate and (sadly) very effective attempt to 'calm' the reporting of the true story of Fukushima is a terrible betrayal of liberal values. In my view it is not acceptable that a Liberal Democrat cabinet minister presides over a department deeply involved in a blatant conspiracy designed to manipulate the truth in order to protect corporate interests".
The leader of the Lib Dems in the European parliament, Fiona Hall, said: "These emails corroborate my own impression that there has been a strange silence in the UK following the Fukushima disaster ...
Orwellian Spin
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Fukushima spin was Orwellian
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/jul/01/fukushima-emails-gov...
Britain's decision to back nuclear power in 2006 was pushed through government by a cosy group of industrialists and others close to Tony Blair, and a full debate about the full costs, safety and potential impact on future generations was suppressed. But the release of 80 emails showing that in the days after the Fukushima accident not one but two government departments were working with nuclear companies to spin one of the biggest industrial catastrophes of the last 50 years, even as people were dying and a vast area was being made uninhabitable, is shocking.
What the emails shows is a weak government, captured by a powerful industry colluding to at least misinform and very probably lie to the public and the media. Can we ever trust government to tell us the truth on nuclear power, or should we just accept that the industry and government are now as one?
liar or bullsh----r
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Haruki Madarame is now widely called “Detarame” Haruki, meaning he’s a liar or a bullsh----r.
“Newspapers and television shouldn’t say, ‘Don’t worry, it’s safe. You don’t need to run away,’ like Japan’s have.”
http://www.cnngo.com/tokyo/life/tell-me-about-it/david-mcneill-whos-tell...
One of the more striking aspects of the local media coverage of Fukushima was the missing word -- “meltdown.” It seemed reasonable to speculate, from March 11-15, that this is precisely what happened. One reason was the repeated news of cesium dispersed in the atmosphere on March 12.
We might also cite the example of MOX fuel and plutonium, a substance so toxic “that a teaspoon-sized cube of it would suffice to kill 10 million people,” in Reactor 3 at Fukushima.
Newspaper and TV reports in Japan essentially banished the words from their reports. MOX is also used in the Hamaoka nuclear plant, which, until Prime Minister Naoto Kan ordered it shut last month was largely unknown to ordinary Japanese citizens.
Japanese magazines, however, have been the most critical, unrestrained and informed publications in the world since March. “Shukan Shincho” calls the TEPCO management ‘war criminals’. “Shukan Gendai” dubbed professor Sekimura and pro-nuclear scientists “tonchinkan” -- roughly, “blundering.”
Haruki Madarame is now widely called “Detarame” Haruki, meaning he’s a liar or a bullsh----r. But shouldn’t newspapers and TV news, the public’s watchdog, be timely and up to date?
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PB reduces trace C-137
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Happy to oblige …
At a June 30 press conference by the government and Tokyo Electric Power Co.'s disaster response team, Kazuhiko Maekawa, professor emeritus of emergency medicine at the University of Tokyo, said that "the effects (of Prussian blue) on low-dose radiation dosages are completely unknown."
However, per the USA FDA - Prussian Blue reduces trace C-137 doses - Patients contaminated with trace doses of cesium-137, show a similar reduction in whole-body effective half-life with PB.
http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/node/4997
http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/20110709p2a00m0na024000c.html
http://www.fda.gov/OHRMS/DOCKETS/98fr/03d-0023-nad00001.pdf
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES Food and Drug Administration [Docket No. 03D-O023]
Data from additional literature articles, including a study of 7 human volunteers contaminated with trace doses of cesium-137 and reports on 19 patients contaminated with cesium-137 in other incidents, show a similar reduction in whole-body effective half-life after administration of prussian blue (see Madhus, 1968 and National Council on Radiation Protection and Measurement, 1979).
He isn't a pro nuke shill,
He isn't a pro nuke shill, he is a professor of medicine. Also, it is not that well known. Just because a study shows it has an effect doens't mean anything. There are studies that show radiation is healthy, but if I were to bring those up on the forum all hell will break loose. Multiple studies are needed to show a conclusive effect. Also, not everyone knows about every single study, so one would have to show he knew about the study but hide the fact anyway.
Ha Ha Ha
LOL
We shall, for the present, not bother with refuting this 'defense' of TEPCO, Japan Inc., and/or Professor Kazuhiko Maekawa.
A 'shill' example was requested, provided, refuted and documented.
Japanese citizens and the interested reader will draw their own conclusions regarding the matter at hand.
There is seldom any effort exerted to sway the opinions of strident advocates.
CTBT data from Japan has
CTBT data from Japan has been available for months already.
Bad Idea
Not Cool
ALARA
ALARA has long been the Gold Standard for good reasons. (ALARA = As Low As Reasonably Achievable) It is highly inappropriate to relax our radioactive safety responses.
Foods, beverages, drugs and vitamins labeling should include the top several radionuclides as well as the nutrition amounts. Perhaps, some threshold value should be indicated, with a cautionary asterisk, such as 250 Bq/kG. This would include Brazil nuts, but typically not bananas.
Concentration points, such as Thyroid, Kidney, Liver or Bone Marrow could be included where applicable. Radionuclide half-life and biological half-life might also be helpful.
USA?
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Japan prepares for future nuclear accidents
http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/20111020p2g00m0dm012000c.html
The secretariat of the Nuclear Safety Commission of Japan proposed on Thursday expanding the maximum evacuation perimeter around a nuclear power plant to a 30-kilometer radius from the current 10 km in the event of a future nuclear accident.
The secretariat also proposed newly designating a 5-km radius around a nuclear plant as a zone from which people should immediately be evacuated following a plant accident.
The proposal also includes stocking iodine tablets in advance within a 50-km radius from a nuclear plant to prevent the exposure of the thyroid gland to radiation.
More ERRORS from IDIOT Gunderson
In his video, idiot Gunderson claims that the combustion of the hydrogen gas worked like the chemical high explosives in a nuclear weapon to implode the nuclear fuel.
Although that is the general principle, Gunderson's explanation shows just how manifestly shallow his "understanding" ( if you can call it that ) of the implosion physics of nuclear explosions.
The champion for implosion assembly at Los Alamos, in lieu of the gun-assembly method; was a scientist by the name of Seth Neddermeyer. One can read the story of Neddermeyer in both "The Making of the Atomic Bomb" by Richard Rhodes, and "Oppenheimer - Shatter of Worlds" by Peter Goodchild.
Although a 3-D spherically symmetric implosion of a sphere was called for, Neddermeyer experimented on an easier task of 2-D implosions of metal tubes into solid metal rods. He packed high explosives around the tubes; but to no avail. His implosions were not symmetric. We know why. The implosions are hydrodynamically unstable; in particular they are Raleigh-Taylor unstable. That happens when you attempt to push a denser material with a material of lower density. In this case, he was attempting to push dense metal with the combustion gases of an HE explosion. All he got was twisted metal pipes, and not the desired solid rods.
The problem is that the shockwaves were not focused. Shockwaves from explosions are outwardly convex. What Neddermeyer needed was shockwaves that were concave toward his metal pipes, and all waves with a common center of convergence. That doesn't happen by happenstance.
It REQUIRES an "explosive lens" to invert the convex shockwaves into concave shockwaves and focus them toward a common center.
See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosive_lens
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seth_Neddermeyer
Nevertheless, seemingly irresolvable problems with shock wave uniformity brought progress on implosion to a crawl. At the urging of James Conant, Oppenheimer, brought in George Kistiakowsky (who had a specialized knowledge in the precision use of explosives) to help jumpstart the flagging program in January 1944....
Accordingly, it was left to others like Kistiakowsky (who contributed a background in military ordnance and explosives), Robert Christy (who contributed the insight that a subcritical sphere of plutonium could be imploded to a critical mass), John von Neumann (who contributed the breakthrough mathematical model for using shaped charges to create a truly spherical implosion), and Edward Teller (whose knowledge of the compressibility of metals led to the use of density change to achieve criticality rather than mere, same-density, “assembly”), to complete the work.
As noted in the above quote, the implosion technique is quite complex; it doesn't just happen automatically.
From the article on explosive lenses, one reads that the explosive lens requires either a special "wave shaper" or the use of two explosives with different propagation velocities to accomplish the task.
There were no "wave-shapers" at Fukushima, and only one explosive material; the hydrogen gas. Hence, there was no way available to invert the shockwaves and focus them as the implosion concept requires.
However, idiot Gunderson would have us believe that this very sensitive, very complex task of hydrodynamic assembly happened by "happenstance" in the Unit 3 spent fuel pool.
Idiot Gunderson also postulates that it was the sides of the fuel pool that focused the stem of the mushroom cloud upwards. Idiot Gunderson is just talking through his hat. The mushroom shape evolves naturally from the laws of hydrodynamics. An initial Raleigh-Taylor instability drives a Kelvin-Helmholtz rollup that forms the mushroom and mushroom stem. One doesn't need a fuel pool to direct the explosion upwards. After all, the nuclear tests in the Nevada desert that produced so many nice mushroom clouds had the the bomb on top of a tower; there was no pool to focus the explosion upwards and none is needed.
IDIOT Gunderson has shown in his videos that he doesn't understand high school level probability calculations, he doesn't understand Boltzmann transport theory, and he doesn't understand hydrodynamics.
Gunderson's STUPIDITY is only exceeded by that of the throngs of anti-nukes that fall for his misconceptions with reckless abandon.
Breeder Reactors
Well DUH!
What happens in a breeder reactor?
A fully functional breeder reactor was once constructed in the USA by a high kid, David Charles Hahn, as chronicled in the book, 'The Radioactive Boyscout'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2FpeM3ejjw
http://www.dangerouslaboratories.org/radscout.html
Pretty darned simple process actually. When the neighborhood got too hot for his personal mental comfort level, he reported the increasingly 'HOT' spot to the USA Atomic Energy Commission.
Oh, and Mr. Hahn does not look very healthy.
Hot Scout - Continued
Excerpts from the Harper's Magazine report on 'The Radioactive Boyscout:
Now seventeen, David hit on the idea of building a model breeder reactor. He was determined to get as far as he could by trying to get his various radioisotopes to interact with one another. His blueprint was a schematic of a checkerboard breeder reactor he’d seen in one of his father’s college textbooks. Ignoring any thought of safety, David took the highly radioactive radium and americium out of their respective lead casings and, after another round of filing and pulverizing, mixed those isotopes with beryllium and aluminum shavings, all of which he wrapped in aluminum foil. What were once the neutron sources for his guns became a makeshift “core” for his reactor. He surrounded this radioactive ball with a “blanket” composed of tiny foil-wrapped cubes of thorium ash and uranium powder, which were stacked in an alternating pattern with carbon cubes and tenuously held together with duct tape.
David monitored his “breeder reactor” at the Golf Manor laboratory with his Geiger counter. “It was radioactive as heck,” he says. “The level of radiation after a few weeks was far greater than it was at the time of assembly. I know I transformed some radioactive materials.
Finally, David began to realize that, he could be putting himself and others in danger. (One tip-off was when the radiation was detectable through concrete.) David purchased a set of cobalt drill bits at a local hardware store and inserted them between the thorium and uranium cubes. But the cobalt wasn’t sufficient. When his Geiger counter began picking up radiation five doors down from his mom’s house, David began to disassemble the reactor.
Incorrect
More about 'The Radioactive Boyscout'
http://harpers.org/archive/1998/11/0059750
Pro-Nuclear Groups and their counterparts within government have exhibited a long-standing pattern of dissembling.
They typically maintain that:
Reactor and bomb construction is impossibly complicated
Materials are impossible to obtain
Detection equipment can quickly locate nuclear material
Health consequences of nuclear reactor accidents are minimal
Of course, none of these assertions are accurate.
Asserted, but not proven..
Reactor and bomb construction is impossibly complicated
Materials are impossible to obtain
Of course, none of these assertions are accurate.
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Asserted but not proven. Every wonder why the anti-nukes make statements, but never give anything to back up their statement. It's just "Here's my statement; believe". The reason is they have no backing.
Consider the first statement. Reactors and bombs are not impossibly complicated; but they are some of the most complicated devices that humankind has devised.
It took several years for the Manhattan Project to design / make the first nuclear warheads. The people doing this work were some of the finest scientists of the 20th century including Nobel Prize in Physics winners like Ernest Lawrence, Hans Bethe, Richard Feynmann, Luis Alvarez, Emilio Segre, I.I. Rabi, and Enrico Fermi.
Is it plausible that it took all these top-notch scientists several years to do something that was "duck-soup" simple?
Also, look at the list of the world's most powerful computers:
http://www.top500.org/list/2011/06/100
Look at how many of the most powerful computers are at DOE labs where they do weapons and reactor research. (#9 is at CEA which is the French nuclear weapons design lab) IBM is currently building the next machine that will recapture the #1 spot for the USA, the 20 petaflop "Sequoia" computer:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Sequoia
Sequoia was revealed in February 2009; the targeted performance of 20 petaflops was more than the combined performance of the top 500 supercomputers in the world and about 20 times faster than Roadrunner, the reigning champion of the time. It will be twice as fast as the current record-holding K computer and also twice as fast as the intended future performance of Pleiades.
Sequoia is scheduled to be delivered to Lawrence Livermore National Lab, which is one of the 2 US labs that design nuclear weapons.
Why do you think they have such powerful computers if their problems are so simple?
As far as it being easy to get materials. The USA produced its nuclear weapons materials at the Hanford site in Washington, Savannah River in South Carolina, and the Y-12 and K-25 plants in Tennessee. Get Google Earth working for you and look at the remnants of these sites; they are MASSIVE. Sure, nuclear materials are easy to come by; you can pick some up at Wal-Mart. GEESH
Rhetorical Questions
This guy, playing 'Devil's Advocate' asks a lot of rhetorical questions. By my lights, 'The Devil' already has enough advocates, especially within the Nuclear Power electrical generation industry.
There was never any question that the 'Little Boy' (gun assembly) would detonate. The more elegant 'Fat Man' implosion design was much more problematic.
Weapon yield is a computer design objective. Aging, corrosion, deterioration, storage, temperature, fail-safe, electrical integrity, part replacement, failure modes, detonation sequence, safety, and many other objectives are reviewed by computer.
Most reasonably talented high school lab teams could construct a functional plutonium bomb.
There is nothing to it. Slam two (or more) sub-critical masses together, with sufficient force and the job is done. I shall not give more specific design examples, though it would be VERY simple to do so. THere is no advantage in telling all the high school C students how to do it.
Old Wives Tale.
Most reasonably talented high school lab teams could construct a functional plutonium bomb.
There is nothing to it. Slam two (or more) sub-critical masses together, with sufficient force and the job is done.
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That's an old wives tale that high school lab teams could do it.
It took many years for the finest scientists of the 20th century to construct a nuclear weapon; including Nobel Prize in Physics winners like Ernest Lawrence, Hans Bethe, Richard Feynmann, Luis Alvarez, Emilio Segre, I.I. Rabi, and Enrico Fermi.
I find it preposterous that the finest physicists of the 20th century took years to do what you think can be done by high school students.
Additionally, one of the weapons labs did an experiment to see if their newly hired PhDs could design a bomb before they had been told all the real secrets. Again, I don't think the high school students would do better than recent PhD physicists.
The Manhattan Project was in
The Manhattan Project was in the 1940's,
they probably used slide rules and pencils,
they certainly did not have powerful computers.
The computers are used now because the World has correctly
decided that nuclear bomb testing is a very stupid thing to do,
and the boys with the toys are restricted to just running simulations only.
Yes - but...
The computers are used now because the World has correctly
decided that nuclear bomb testing is a very stupid thing to do,
and the boys with the toys are restricted to just running simulations only
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Yes - but why do they need the most powerful computers?
If nuclear weapon design is so easy and not complex; one should be able to run those simulations on an everyday, "run of the mill" computer; a computer like those that Pixar uses to make animated movies, for example.
Why do they need these incredibly powerful computers if the problem they are solving is so easy?
NO!
I'm familiar with the "radioactive boy scout", and he did NOT construct a reactor.
He just piled together a bunch of radioactive material that he got from smoke detectors and the like. A lot of people think that reactors are just a pile of radioactive material, but that is wrong.
A reactor doesn't run on radioactive material; it runs on fissile material. Fissile materials are radioactive, but not all radioactive materials are fissile.
The kid didn't make a "fully functioning breeder reactor"; that's just media hype to make the story sound more sensational.
Impractical NOT impossible
Impractical is NOT impossible
Just hard to carry on an airplane to nuke a target due to size and weight.
What he said was ...
"Below a certain limit, weapons designers attest that the construction of a nuclear weapon or explosive device becomes impractical."
Critical mass
Obviously there must be an inverse relationship between the percentage of fissile material and the critical mass for a bomb. If you have a lower percentage of fissile material, you need a more massive bomb core. At the limit of 14% Pu-239, the mass of the core is impractical to transport by air.
However, Gunderson's "theory" is that the hydrogen gas explosion imploded individual fuel pellets. Since fuel pellets are small enough to be transported by air, they must be below the critical mass. Hence, Gunderson's theory is all wet; the Unit 3 explosion wasn't nuclear.
WRONG!!
"Below a certain limit, weapons designers attest that the construction of a nuclear weapon or explosive device becomes impractical."
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You didn't read the paper did you? It's not just "impractical"; it is "impossible".
You solve the Boltzmann transport equation for neutrons, and you get an eigenvalue that is less than unity for these low concentrations.
That doesn't equate to "impractical" or too large; it means IMPOSSIBLE
The U-238 parasitically absorbs too many neutrons, and there's not enough U-235 or Pu-239 to make up for the parasitic absorption. Result - IMPOSSIBLE
Ooopsie Daisy
Unfortunately 'for math', the explosion in the Fukushima Daiichi Unit-3 appears to be a nuke.
Perhaps a more generalized Tensor mathematic model is required. Perhaps there are multiple eigenvalues in the non-unique, higher order, matrix solution sets. Perhaps a pole was overlooked. Ooops, happens far too frequently in the world of mathematics. ... Back to the drawing board.
Oh well, it is only a what, 10^19 Becqueral radionuclide reclease into the environment.
"Not to worry!" coos the pro-nuke propagandists in the nuclear industry and governments.
"Kiss your fanny goodbye', whines the Anti-nuke mob.
The rational and technically cognizant, recognize this is a dreadful release into the Japanese population and a sad affair for the North-West Pacific Ocean.
This looks like a nuke too - but it's NOT
Unfortunately 'for math', the explosion in the Fukushima Daiichi Unit-3 appears to be a nuke.
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This looks like a nuclear explosion every bit as much as the Unit 3 explosion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K0cEX9ex3U
However, it is NOT a nuclear explosion. It's a chemical explosion at a factory in Henderson, Nevada that makes rocket fuel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sqz5dbs5zmo
What is your expertise in nuclear weapons?
Unfortunately 'for math', the explosion in the Fukushima Daiichi Unit-3 appears to be a nuke.
Perhaps a more generalized Tensor mathematic model is required. Perhaps there are multiple eigenvalues in the non-unique, higher order, matrix solution sets. Perhaps a pole was overlooked. Ooops, happens far too frequently in the world of mathematics. ...
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You assert that the Unit 3 explosion is nuclear; but what are your qualifications in making that assertion.
Oh goody, you learned some mathematics terms. Too bad you didn't get mathematical understanding while you were at it. The pertinent equation is the Boltzmann transport equation, and it is a conservation equation. Just like we have conservation of energy, conservation of mass, the Boltzmann equation is a statement of conservation of neutrons - they don't "disappear" or "appear" magically - there has to be a reaction or movement to account for the presence, birth, and destruction of every neutron.
The Boltzmann equation details the transfer of neutrons from the i-th sector of phase space to the j-th sector of phase space. The loss in one part of phase space due to collisional down scatter, for example is equal to the gain of neutrons in another portion. The loss rate of the going from i-th to j-th is equal to the gain in the j-th due to the i-th.
Therefore, in matrix form of the equation, the i,j-th matrix element is equal to the j,i-th matrix element. In other words, the matrix form of the Boltzmann equation is symmetric. The terms are also real, and not complex. So we have a real symmetric matrix, which is a proper subset of the class of Hermitian matrices. Hermitian all have real eigenvalues, not complex.
So much for your uninformed speculations in the complex plane.
You didn't know that a conservation equation has real eigenvalues.
If you were in my "Methods of Theoretical Physics" class; I would have to FLUNK you.
Unsinkable - Impossible - Never
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Unsinkable - Impossible - Never
File this Eigenvalue theory and the Boltzmann transport equation solver computer programs along with the Titanic and the Tacoma Narrows Bridge.
"God himself could not sink this ship!"
http://www.historyonthenet.com/Titanic/unsinkable.htm
http://www.snopes.com/history/titanic/unsinkable.asp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-zczJXSxnw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mclp9QmCGs
Passenger Margaret Devaney said "I took passage on the Titanic for I thought it would be a safe steamship and I had heard it could not sink." Another passenger, Thomson Beattie, wrote home "We are changing ships and coming home in a new unsinkable boat." Whatever the origin of the belief, there is no doubt that people did believe Titanic to be unsinkable.
In 1911, Shipbuilder magazine published an article on the White Star Line's sister ships Titanic and Olympic. The article described the construction of the ship and concluded that Titanic was practically unsinkable. It was the beginning of the twentieth century and people had absolute faith in new science and technology. They believed that science in the twentieth century could and would provide answers to solve all problems. The sinking of the 'unsinkable' Titanic shattered much confidence in science and made people more sceptical about such fantastic claims.
safe,clean, too cheap to
safe,clean, too cheap to meter!LOL
WRONG!!
Perhaps a more generalized Tensor mathematic model is required. Perhaps there are multiple eigenvalues in the non-unique, higher order, matrix solution sets.
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NOPE - the matrix is Hermitian. The eigenvalues are all real, not complex.