Erroneous Info in UCB Milk Sampling Results (and probably elsewhere on this site)
To the UCB faculty and students who have created this site and who are providing commentary on contamination levels in air, water, and food:
On http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/node/2174
(and probably elsewhere on your site), your commentary reiterates an often paraphrased, but unfortunately incorrect comparison between external and internal radiation. You wrote: "The number in parentheses is the number of liters of milk that one would need to consume to equal the radiation exposure of a single round trip flight from San Francisco to Washington D.C. (0.05 mSv)."
Internal radiation exposure cannot be considered to be equivalent to external exposure. External radiation exposure is an exposure that is averaged across the whole body and stops as soon as a person moves away from the source of radiation. Unfortunately, people can't move away from internal exposure. Once radioactive elements are consumed, they get absorbed and remain in the body for long periods of time, continuously irradiating nearby tissues, until the body eventually eliminates the radiation or eventually dies (not necessarily as a result of the radiation). In the case of Cs137 the biological half life is 110 days. i.e. half of what was ingested gets excreted in 110 days, while the remainder takes longer than 110 days to excrete. All that time, the ingested particles constantly irradiate nearby tissues. The constant radiation over time, of tissues in proximity to the ingested radioactive particles has the potential to cause damage to cells and DNA, and this is what makes internal radiation a much greater concern than an "equivalent" dose of external radiation received across a person's entire body.
I urge you to read the BIER VII report summary at http://dels-old.nas.edu/dels/rpt_briefs/beir_vii_final.pdf This report, by the National Academy of Sciences, makes it very clear that there is no linear threshold that represents a "safe" level of radiation. Every increase in radiation, no matter how seemingly small, does appear to equate to an increased statistical probability that an adverse biologal impact (e.g. cancer) will occur. A statistical increase, however small, still represents an increased risk. Practically speaking, the risks to any single individual may be small when they are considered as part of a large population. However, within that large population, some people WILL be effected. For them, the risks become all too real.
I recognize the time and energy that everyone in the UCB Department of Nuclear Engineering has invested in this web site. You have provided valuable information that has not been available elsewhere, and this service has been and is very much appreciated! I hope you will continue your good work.
In the mean time, please consider that as part of a highly regarded university, you are viewed by most visitors as being an authoritative source on this topic. I encourage you to correct the misleading dosage comparison(s) that you have on your web site and to find a more accurate way to put dosages into context.


This has been discussed
This has been discussed before several times. The coefficients used to calculate internal exposure include the time the contaminants remain in the body and how they affect internal tissue during that time. You can check it in the FAQ section:
"Is it valid to compare doses from these radionuclides to a cross-country plane flight?
Yes. See the explanation of total effective dose equivalent (TEDE), which is the the dose quantity that we use in our calculations. TEDE takes into account all variables of the radiation -- energy, type of particle, type of tissue, part of the body, how long the isotope is in your body, internal or external exposure -- and normalizes the dose to a full-body dose for ease of comparison between different doses."
http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/node/2044#dosecompare
There are many citations on
There are many citations on this forum negating this theory. For anyone interested, use the search function. I'm not convinced either way - logical arguments on both sides. Gotta keep the "agenda" thing uppermost in mind, and stay objective.
The bottom line, regardless of TEDE, is simply there is no such thing as a safe level of contamination. Just better odds in the crapshoot.
People are weary of this argument, in large part because they don't know who to trust.
Well stated, with all due
Well stated, with all due respect to our BRAWM friends.
After the endless hours of reading and research, I - like most of you - came to learn that indeed, there is no safe level of radiation contamination, period.
So we continue our difficult quest for truth, to protect ourselves and those we love as best we can.
"BRAWM"
A wise man once said , "You are either part of the problem or you are a part of the solution". At this point its obvious to me that (IMHO) 'BRAWM' is NOT part of the solution. They are working hard to put a positive spin on the severity of this disaster at Fukushima and to quell our rational fears of the worlds worst nuclear/industrial disaster EVER (using our tax payers $).....SHAME ON YOU BRAWM!- thats my opinion.