Bioaccumulators - It is Time
At this stage we need to shift our attention to possible concentrations of radionuclides in the food chain.
There are both likely and known accumulators in in many plants, animals and fungus that we consume directly or enter our food chain a little further down, like soybeans or grass fed to cows.
Some rapidly growing plants or phases of plant growth have a noted tendency to absorb radionuclides.
I know that fungus loves to concentrate (bio- amplify or magnify) all sorts of elements. Fungus is in fact quite intentional, each with its preference for specific elements if present.
Someone posted that algae is an accumulator of Strontium 90.
Certain bacteria seem to prefer some hot isotopes.
Shellfish, because they are filter feeders seem like a possibility.
We discovered birds that feed on foliage-eating insects can dramatically accumulate. Wild range eggs or pheasant anyone?
What else comes to mind when thinking of places and organisms to look for bioaccumulation ?
Did I mention I was a big advocate of massive testing?
Data can lead to knowledge. Knowledge equals power. We should all have more power in this regard.
- Red Mercury -


I think comparing to the
I think comparing to the data on radiation contamination in western Europe after Chernobyl may be interesting. There is very little related to contaminants being detected in urine tests, I think only some studies in Italy and Japan, but it may be worth studying:
http://www.davistownmuseum.org/cbm/Rad7b2.html
By the way, there is some fragmentary data on the effects of Chernobyl fallout in the US (Sadly, I think I can't access most of the papers):
http://www.davistownmuseum.org/cbm/Rad7c.html#USA
BEFORE the pale horse tramples children and our genome under
Just as each lens in a scope works with the next to SHARPEN AND INCREASE the subject, each step in bio magnification can in a few steps logarithmically increase the concentration of a toxin such as cesium and strontium.
While we generally understand and in some cases know a great deal about bioaccumulation we have done very little 'real world', 'the nuke blew up' mixed isotope release research.
The whole point of working with bioaccumulators is so we can AVOID concentrations, hotspots and/or concentrating and then avoid consuming said concentrations.
Here is a link to lightweight layman's guide to Fukushima and bioaccumulation.
http://dprogram.net/2011/04/27/bioaccumulation-why-fukushima-matters/
We need to pursue the twin objectives of discovering hotspots (bioaccumuators are good indicators) so we can avoid making them part of our internal environment (eat breathe drink) and gain a better understanding bioaccumulation which will yield all sorts of benefits.
Once the fallout falls out the science expands. Radio biology, epidemiology, climatology, hydrology, agronomy, and a dozen(s) more.
It is really a sad and fantastic opportunity for everyone who might have to deal with another fallout event.
NOW is the time to start.
Red mercury
Thinking about bioacumulation as I see it we(people) are the best test subject.we feed on a wide variety of plants and animals that may be tainted accumulating radiation in our body's..this test can be done via urinalysis .seems simpler than testing every item in food chain.
http://www.iem-inc.com/prmonit.html
Monitoring for Intakes
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How does radioactivity get into the body?
Since radioactivity is part of the world around us, we take it into our bodies all of the time. One way is by inhalation, where radioactive material that is suspended in the air is breathed into the lungs. Radioactive materials become airborne just like dust and dirt. Heating, ventilation, and physical movement serve to increase airborne concentrations in contaminated areas.
Another way is by ingestion, which is when radioactive materials are taken into the mouth and subsequently enter the digestive tract. Ingestion occurs when people eat, smoke, or drink in contaminated areas or with contaminated hands.
Other ways are through wounds and by direct absorption through the skin. However, absorption is only possible for a very few elements.
Are there limits on the amount of radioactivity that can be taken into the body?
Just as there are regulatory limits on external radiation exposure, there are also limits on the amount of radioactive materials you may take into your body as a result of your work at a site that is licensed by the U. S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission. These limits, which are above the radioactivity we taken in on a daily basis by virtue of being alive, are typically known as "Annual Limits on Intake".
How do I know if I have exceeded an Annual Limit on Intake?
There are basically two industry-standard methods for monitoring intakes of radioactivity. These are direct bioassay (whole body counting), and indirect bioassay (excretion analyses).
What is whole body counting?
Whole body counting is a colloquial term for the measurement of the penetrating radiations emitted from radioactive materials that are contained in the human body. This bioassay method can be used to determine the amount of radioactivity present in the body at the time of measurement, but cannot directly determine the amount that was present at some previous time. That quantity must be inferred from the measured body content of the specific radioactive material, followed by application of mathematical models which describe the behavior of that material in the body.
What is indirect bioassay?
Indirect bioassay, or excretion analyses, refers to identifying and quantifying radioactive materials that are excreted or removed from the body. Indirect bioassay procedures are used routinely in radiation protection work to monitor personnel for possible accidental intakes of radioactive materials.
After an intake has occurred by inhalation or ingestion, a portion of the radioactive material will be absorbed into the bloodstream and deposited in various body organs or tissues or excreted from the body. Therefore, by analyzing an individual's excreta, an indication of whether an intake has occurred can be obtained.
Examples of excreta that can be used for indirect bioassay include urine, feces, tissue, blood, fingernails, hair, teeth, saliva, sweat, and breath. However, for most routine internal radiation monitoring programs, urine bioassay, or urinalysis, is the methodology of choice.
Is urinalysis a sensitive monitoring method?
Yes, as time passes and the body begins to excrete radioactive materials retained by various organs, standard indirect bioassay procedures can detect the presence of smaller amounts of radionuclides than is possible by standard whole body counting techniques. This difference in detection capability becomes even greater when insoluble radioactive materials are involved.
How is urinalysis performed?
The actual procedures are specific for the type and form of radioactivity being used in the work place. In general, however, one or more samples of your urine are collected into a bottle, the bottle is sealed, and the sample is shipped to a laboratory that performs radionuclide analysis.
Is the laboratory the same type as a medical laboratory?
No. A radioanalytical laboratory has no capability for performing the types of procedures doctors or hospitals might order. Their equipment is only capable of isolating and detecting radioactive atoms.
How will my sample be analyzed?
Again, the actual procedure is specific for the radioactivity in question. One common method is to place the sample directly over a radiation detector that is connected to a computer-based analyzer. This simple method is actually quite sensitive and requires no sample preparation other than to measure the total volume of the sample. Other methods generally require the sample to be digested, mixed with certain chemicals, then poured through a device that is designed to extract the radioactive element in question.
Where can I obtain technical information about urine bioassay?
The following articles and papers contain additional information on direct and indirect bioassay:
Toohey, R. E., Palmer, H. E., Anderson, L., Berger, C. D., Cohen, N., Eisele, G., Wachholz, B., and Burr, W., "Current Status of Whole Body Counting as a Means to Detect and Quantify Previous Exposures to Radioactive Materials", Health Physics, Vol. 60, Sup. 1, pp. 7-42, 1991.
"Performance Criteria for Radiobioassay", American National Standards Institute, Report No. ANSI N13.30, 1987.
"American National Standard for Internal Dosimetry for Mixed Fission and Activation Products", American National Standards Institute, Report No. ANSI N343, 1978.
"Use of Bioassay Procedures for Assessment of Internal Radionuclide Deposition", National Commission on Radiation Protection and Measurements, NCRP Report No. 87, 1987.
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BEFORE the pale horse tramples children and our genome under
Just as each lens in a scope works with the next to SHARPEN AND INCREASE the subject, each step in bio magnification can in a few steps logarithmically increase the concentration of a toxin such as cesium and strontium.
While we generally understand and in some cases know a great deal about bioaccumulation we have done very little 'real world', 'the nuke blew up' mixed isotope release research.
The whole point of working with bioaccumulators is so we can AVOID concentrations, hotspots and/or concentrating and then avoid consuming said concentrations.
Here is a link to lightweight layman's guide to Fukushima and bioaccumulation.
http://dprogram.net/2011/04/27/bioaccumulation-why-fukushima-matters/
We need to pursue the twin objectives of discovering hotspots (bioaccumuators are good indicators) so we can avoid making them part of our internal environment (eat breathe drink) and gain a better understanding bioaccumulation which will yield all sorts of benefits.
Once the fallout falls out the science expands. Radio biology, epidemiology, climatology, hydrology, agronomy, and a dozen(s) more.
It is really a sad and fantastic opportunity for everyone who might have to deal with another fallout event.
NOW is the time to start.
Thank you Red Mercury for this amazing RBScience thread
Hair analysis can also potentially tell us 'when' the cesium or other radioactive isotopes entered our bodies.
Quality air filters, water filtration as well as indoor gardens with remediated soil should become very popular for obvious reasons. Progress will come in the form of 'killing multiple birds' with 'the same stone'. Indoor gardens have that effect.
Other developments such as zeolite booms, dams and filters need to be brought to market. (Or other methods besides zeolite- who cares as long as it does the job? I just keep mentioning zeolite because it seems everyone found it helpful with Chernobyl etc...)
Detoxification of the body is key. We need the highest immunity we can get to fight off these new and complicated toxins.
Thanks again.
To 'me' this is real science with a purpose in the interest of public health.
perspective and objective in selecting bioaccumuation samples
People provide the best, most germane sample source for bioaccumulators from a 'how does it effect me now' perspective. I guess that is why food tasters are still de rigueur in some royal households. So who can we sign up to write down everything they eat, and preferably just from one neighborhood or farm ? Now if we had subsistence populations living off the land nicely distributed across the Western US we would be set. If the stuffing keeps falling out of the economy such demographics will go from rare to the norm. Hey do you think that's an ulterior motive to creating the deepening the current economic hole ? We need test subjects?
Speaking of ulterior motives I would love to see highly detailed deposition maps with detail that includes all detail down to the acre and isotope. Looking at a broad range of bioaccumulators will start that process (point to places and biota to explore) while sifting the environment with a the fine mesh biological processes. We will learn more about what accumulates what. As certain isotopes mimic other elements we may gain all kinds of insight into the biological world as well.
By testing below (and perhaps to the side - other 'top of the chain' accumulators) of us in the food chain we might stay one step ahead. That might keep us guinea pigs happier and healthier, or at least entertained.
BTW Tdm, are you affiliated with any testing firm, service or possibly Integrated Environmental Management, Inc. ?
Am I the only one here that
Am I the only one here that has been to ask about the "medical mary jane"?
mmj
http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/node/4069
Bummer, man.
Bummer, man.
So according to a couple of
So according to a couple of posters and this article, MJ can clean up the soil like pig weed and sunflowers do? Alright man! We can plant smoke and snacks AND pull some crap out of the soil.
http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/2673.html
In the summer, dude! Ask
In the summer, dude! Ask your local dispenser to test for Cs137...
I don't know. I could try
I don't know. I could try but I think my local dispenser is more worried about the fuzz...not the fission.
Would Bandstra or Dchivers
Would Bandstra or Dchivers care to chime in here? ;)
"But here's some good news:
"But here's some good news: Efforts to erect technological barriers against nuclear smuggling are already well advanced. Drug lords, ironically, are largely to thank. Over the years they have invented countless tricks to hide their wares in cargo -implanting cocaine into a cubic yard of crushed cans, stuffing a hulking factory machine with pot. In response, customs has pushed the envelope on detection technology, even funding research on radiation detection. The reason: "Marijuana is radioactive," says Roy Lindquist, a former customs manager who is now an executive at OSI Systems, a Hawthorne, Calif., maker of inspection systems. Marijuana plants concentrate potassium in their leaves, including potassium-40, an isotope that emits gamma rays."
NOOOOOOO!
What's yer question ?
Hey man its Dave. No seriously what's question man ? Cause like I can't read your mind man. Are you like asking a question? Cause like man I see you waving your hand man, like you have a question? Go ahead put down the burning thing, gather your thoughts dude and ask ! (cause like I'm sure it's ok)
Alright man. Well I guess
Alright man. Well I guess I'm wondering if the goofy grass I'm using to deal with my (ahem), insomnia, well I'm curious if the stuff is taking up any radioactive isotopes...like cesium or strontium. Let's say I've got a good amount of some amazing strawberry cough...and it just so happened to have spent the last few months relatively exposed to the elements...will said strawberry cough have been tainted by lung shredding fission products.
Cesium Deposition Map as an Indicator of Radionuclides
Here is a link to the map of the projected dry deposition of cesium 137.
http://db.eurad.uni-koeln.de/prognose/data/alert/ddcs_hem_1h_72_1.gif
On the West Coast the Jet Stream is a direct shot from Japan. We should expect some fairly hot spots scattered about. The problem is that no one with the right equipment and resources is seeking them out yet. Testing for bioaccumulation is one way to start the process.
I am sure the 'let's not alarm the public' cadre will be alarmed at my post. Perhaps this post will give their life meaning and something to flame.
Cesium and several other radioisotopes have a rebound in the food chain after a fallout event. Twenty five years later, fourteen hundred miles and several mountain ranges away, and Wales has hot spots that should not be farmed:
from Wikipedia:
"Some of this radioactivity, predominantly radiocaesium-137, was deposited on certain upland areas of the UK, where sheep-farming is the primary land-use. Due to the particular chemical and physical properties of the peaty soil types present in these upland areas, the radiocaesium is still able to pass easily from soil to grass and hence accumulate in sheep. A maximum limit of 1,000 becquerels per kilogramme (Bq/kg) of radiocaesium is applied to sheep meat affected by the accident to protect consumers. This limit was introduced in the UK in 1986, based on advice from the European Commission's Article 31 group of experts. Under power provided under the Food and Environment Protection Act 1985 (FEPA), Emergency Orders have been used since 1986 to impose restrictions on the movement and sale of sheep exceeding the limit in certain parts of Cumbria, North Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland... When the Emergency Orders were introduced in 1986, the Restricted Areas were large, covering almost 9,000 farms, and over 4 million sheep. Since 1986, the areas covered by restrictions have dramatically decreased and now cover 369 farms, or part farms, and around 200,000 sheep. This represents a reduction of over 95% since 1986, with only limited areas of Cumbria, South Western Scotland and North Wales, covered by restrictions.[18]
We still have much to learn about fallout. We will have many, many more nuclear events of all kinds. Let's start acting like adults and doing the science so they can be dealt with in a calm and effective manner. Unless of course the blind promotion of nuclear energy or terror and blowback are your stock and trade.
"At this stage we need to
"At this stage we need to shift our attention to possible concentrations of radionuclides in the food chain."
If we were living in Japan, but in the US?
Yes!!! Children come to
Yes!!! Children come to mind. And pregnant woman and infants. I am also an advocate of massive testing! Of course in Japan, but here in the US and Canada also. If not for health reasons (read the fallout piece in the Thanks BRAWM thread) then just so that we KNOW and have data on how these radioactive isotopes work through the environment and organisms. God forbid there is another disaster such as this one, but being realistic and knowing how many old nuke plants there are in the world, wouldn't this information be valuable? The lack of testing and preventative action (with the exception of BRAWM and Greenpeace that I know of) is haunting to me. We have the technology, and the nuclear industry should be paying for it IMHO.
Absolutely necessary and it
Absolutely necessary and it is high time canadian and US government stepped up to their responsibilities and do what is the right thing to do for it's people! We need to know, we demand to know the impact of the FK situation on our countries and our health. We demand to know because it is our right and our health on the line! I have never felt so irrelevant as a people as I and I am sure many others as during this scary disaster. I am also certain that this is not the last one with all the aging reactors! No need to vote at all because ot just does not matter!
Like Alex Jones said, the
Like Alex Jones said, the nation-states are now effectively crackwhores beat down and pimped out by the slick globalists.
also, since so few of us are
also, since so few of us are interested, the governments will do nothing.
Go tell it on the Mountain
You evil and corrupt planet... Go tell it on the Mountain!