Vegetables: Do ALL take up radioactive elements?

I had hoped that someone from UCBNE would inform us what vegetables "take up" radioactive elements and which do not. For instance, does CABBAGE take up these particles or does it just fall on the outer leaves and thus easily? removed? Does GARLIC take up radioactive elements?
If UCBNE would just give us a basic list indicating such variances among vegetables it might be of CRITICAL VALUE in avoiding contamination.

Please answer.

How do we wash veggies to remove cesium?

With the cesium fallout now being reported all over the US, what is the best method to wash our fresh fruit and vegetables? Even organically grown are now covered with who knows what so do you suggest vinegar? How about colloidal silver as a solution mixed with vinegar and maybe salt?

Baking soda

Baking soda solution leaches out some of the radionuclides, where contamination exists.

Sodium bicarbonate

USA Supine Strategic Posture

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The Forward-Looking Strategic Posture of the USA is supine and no pulse is detected.

There is no strategic supply of radiation treatment drugs. Sold as 'surplus'.

“there is no strategy for notifying the public in real time of recommendations on shelter or evacuation priorities.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/us_health_care_system_unprepared_...

U.S. health-care system unprepared for major nuclear emergency, officials say

By Sheri Fink, Thursday, April 7, 12:40 PM

A blunt assessment says, “Current capabilities can only handle a few radiation injuries at any one time.” That assessment, prepared by the Department of Homeland Security in 2010 and stamped “for official use only,’’ says “there is no strategy for notifying the public in real time of recommendations on shelter or evacuation priorities.”

One example: The U.S. Strategic National Stockpile stopped purchasing the best-known agent to counter radioactive iodine-induced thyroid cancer in young people, potassium iodide, about two years ago and designated the limited remaining quantities “excess,”. Despite this, the CDC Web site still lists potassium iodide as one of only four drugs in the stockpile specifically for use in radiation emergencies.

On the Beach

I wish to thank those who have taken the time and effort to address my query.
Every bit of information is valuable.

re Sadly - Yes, thank you for a concise summary.

I found that Prussian Blue, which does eliminate Cesium from the human body, is by prescription only as the government has found that it has the side effects of constipation and stomach upset in some users. Sadly not all may have the funds , as in the case of your writer here, nor an accommodating physician even if one had the funds.

A German firm makes the only PB available in US per FDA, I wonder if Germans could buy it OTC, bet in Mexico one could.

Anyone seen the 1959 film starring Gregory Peck and Ava Gardner? ON THE BEACH?

Regardless of faith tradition let us all hope that the earth is not at that stage yet.

Once again thank you all so very much.

I do urge UCBNE to consider drawing up a list of vegetables most likely to have the MOST dangerous elements at levels of genuine concern, of course there are no safe levels of ingestion of these elements, and monitored on a regular basis.

I realize that the EPA et al withdrew their radiation detectors from PAC NW in early April, finding levels "too high" as well as halting testing of milk and water until August. Also not testing seafood from Pacific ocean. Well I know they must be right, otherwise...

Thanks again. Such troubled times...

Technical Article

A very technical article on plant uptake of radioactive cesium.

http://jxb.oxfordjournals.org/content/51/351/1635.full

Good Article

Informative article. Red root pigweed still seems to be the plant of choice for phytoremediation. Although, it takes 40 plantings / harvests to remove even moderate Cesium contamination.

Thanks for posting this link.

Sadly - Yes

The short answer, is YES, all plants take up radiation from the environement. The publications go into great detail, to describe the differential uptake by roots or through the leaves.

The Hemispheric Radionuclide WindStorm has subsided, for the present. So leaf uptake, which was the major contributor, is no longer a significant player in the lower 48. Nuclear fallout, by air, wind and rain is winding back down to values consistent with the Post Cold War and Post Chernobyl times we live in. Far above any 'normal', 'natural' or true 'background' levels.

The North-Western Pacific is a witches brew of radioactive waste. Marine flora and fauna are, generally speaking more toxic than the water. Many plan to avoid Northern Pacific seafood as if our lives and health hang in the balance.

Full Marks

Excellent Question

The Behavior of RADIOACTIVE FALLOUT in SOILS and PLANTS

National Academy of Sciences

National Research Council Publication 1092

http://libweb.uoregon.edu/ec/e-asia/read/veggienuke.pdf

http://www.archive.org/stream/behaviorofradioa00frer/behaviorofradioa00f...
http://openlibrary.org/books/OL23280500M/The_behavior_of_radioactive_fal....

Thanks for the link!

Thanks for the link!

Thanks

I will check them out. I understand that PRUSSIAN BLUE takes Cesium out of the body is that prescription only? Because I can't afford the $300 for the office visit to the MDs whose humanity appears to be less than complete. Why shouldn't PB be OTC.

Immediately after an

Immediately after an airborne radioactive release, contamination coats the surface of plants, but over time that contamination moves into the soil and from there is taken up inside plants.

Which food sources concentrate radioactivity is fairly easily estimated by looking up the nutrients associated with those foods. For instance, cesium is mistaken for potassium, so foods with high potassium levels will concentrate radioactive cesium when grown in contaminated soil. Strontium and calcium behave similarly. Stable and radioactive iodine are indistinguishable from each other in chemical processes, so radioactive iodine will be taken up in the same percentage as it is present in the environment.

The physical half life of many radioactive contaminants is so long that we can assume they will be permanently with us for many generations. The biological half life is usually much shorter. So even after ingestion, switching to uncontaminated foods can, over time, decrease the levels in our bodies or those of our food animals. However, there seems to be a misunderstanding of biological half. AS LONG AS CONTAMINATED INTAKE CONTINUES, contamination will be present in plants and anything that eats them. There is an initial drop in levels as the radiation is distributed in the environment, but the rate of fall does not continue. Eventually plants, animals, and humans reach a steady state, where excretion of radioactive material matches uptake.

One thing I have gleaned from reading a *lot* of research papers on the Chernobyl accident aftermath is that soil remediation and animal feed supplementation with minerals can have a major impact on decreasing human ingestion of radioactive materials. However, it is expensive and may not be initiated or continued in for-profit food production. By extrapolation, I've decided I can probably decrease uptake by supplementing my diet directly. I wouldn't drink Prussian blue for Fukushima though.

http://www.bt.cdc.gov/radiation/prussianblue.asp

As long as there isn't another major airborne release, I think most of the danger here will come from imported food. Contamination is much higher in Japan, and governments aren't testing very much food. See this abstract for why knowing food sources is important:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20002056

Oh, and cabbage, garlic, onions, kale, broccoli, bok choy, and other members of the Brassicaceae family take up and concentrate radioactive materials through their roots. So if they're grown in contaminated soil, washing them off won't help.

Thanks for the info, but I

Thanks for the info, but I could only access the abstract. How does one get the full doc?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20002056

Very informative. Garlic, at

Very informative. Garlic, at retail, is either from California or China, suppose one could choose one's poison. Good heavens California's bounteous food production makes it THE source for food, especially for those who live on the West coast, as well as, I am sure, most of the rest of America, and parts of the rest of the world. Potassium supplements, for the Cesium, are, by LAW, limited to a pitiful 3% of the RDA or whatever the term is nowadays.

Whoever used to talk about the "Good Old Days" fuddy-duddies.

You can buy prussian blue

You can buy prussian blue online. It is not just used for medical purposes.

That having been said, I would be very wary of taking it, myself, without consulting with a doctor. Could you get sicker from the prussian blue than whatever super-minute amount of cesium you may have ingested? How much would you take?

Is the cure worse than the disease?

Cure worse than disease

Self-medication is STRONGLY cautioned against

I have had occasion to bury MDs who chose to self-medicate.

It is seldom advisable to ingest 'cures' that may be worse than the disease.

Prussian Blue is kinda nasty stuff, an industrial chemical that was once used in office copiers.

While useful for cyanide poisoning and some severe radiation emergencies, it is NOT an OTC kinda thing.

PB livestock feed suppliment

http://www.iaea.org/Publications/Magazines/Bulletin/Bull351/35106881823.pdf
http://www-pub.iaea.org/MTCD/publications/PDF/te_926_web.pdf
http://www.iaea.org/inis/collection/NCLCollectionStore/_Public/28/041/28...

The use of Prussian Blue to reduce radiocaesium contamination of milk and meat produced on territories affected by the Chernobyl accident

Report of United Nations Project E 11

It is concluded that Prussian Blue materials are simple to use, extremely cost-effective, and significantly reduce radiocaesium levels in the meat and milk of cattle grazing contaminated land. As a consequence of these studies, the feeding or application of Prussian Blue was officially approved by the Ministries of Agriculture of Belarus, the Russian Federation and the Ukraine, and particularly recommended for use by the small livestock farmer.

Sorry, I wouldn't have

Sorry, I wouldn't have posted had I seen your post first. Looks like we have a busy thread here...

No Prob - Good Advice

Here is another paper on the rather complex subject of radioactive fallout.

http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=AD0476572&Location=U2&doc=GetTRD...

BIOLOGICAL AND RADIOLOGICAL EFFECTS OF FALLOUT FROM NUCLEAR EXPLOSIONS

Stanford Research Institute - Menlo Park, CA

By: CARL F. MILLER
SRI Project No. 111-1536
CONTRACT NO. OCD.OS-63-149