Lots of friends and family nauseous and sick
though some have colds and some have nothing, the one symptom shared by all (8 people) is nausea. This is different households that havent been around each other in some time. (2 weeks)
Is anyone else on west coast experiencing nausea?


wondering if radioactive fallout could be causeing this
was at the oregon coast couple weeks ago and after coming back afew days later started breaking out with red spots that dont itch and are only where my skin doesnt have a dark tan which is most of my body went to the dr and he doesnt have a clue
nausea on the west coast
Really love reading everyone here. Since mid-June, I've experienced sudden, unexplained, bouts of nausea. At first I thought it was just dairy, and so stopped eating any dairy products. But then it came back no matter what I was eating or drinking (even water). This is very strange for me. Sugar is an absolute impossibility at this point (although I don't consume much of it anyway...except for the occassional treat). I have had a lot of goat cheese though??? And the last few days it's increased. Anyone else still going through this? All I know is that whatever this is, it isn't anywhere near normal for my system. And I began to wonder, after eliminating things, if it wasn't environmental...
to nausea on the west coast...
Hey there, I am in San Diego County and still have the nausea at random times of day and night. I commented a while back about the red spots too. In this tread.
Well I still have the red spots after being outdoors for a longer periods of time. I still have the nausea at times and a tad dizzy with it. If your eating goat cheese makes sure it is aged you can get peccorino at Trader Joes that is aged six months. These symptoms of mine also include a few headaches and general malaise of sleepiness.
It is very very subtle and sort of creeps up on me. You almost don't notice it until you sit down. Very odd for me. I have the iron stomach, and usually burst out of the bed in the morning ! Now it ( my health ) is all rather covered in a mild grey tarnish.
I also saw a cloud the other
I also saw a cloud the other day and freaked out.
nauseous on the west coast
A cloud? Why was that frightening? --
i mentioned the goat cheese because I've read that it should be avoided (like strawberries and such
)...but I do get mine at TJ's :) I've not experienced the red spots, and have laid out in the sun...cocoa butter keeps me from burning. My energy levels are ok, and there's no other symptom besides the nausea (and one day, a pale tongue; but only the once.) This is why I find it all so strange and non-sensical. And I'm definitely not pregnant. Just suddenly nauseous with food (and without). And my guts kinda feel like they do after a round of antibiotics. So far, no one else around me has any of this, although I am in an isolated area. But It doesn't feel like a bug, nor is it food poisoning...it comes so willy-nilly (and my partner eats most of what I do, and is not experiencing this.) But the person below who mentioned avoiding sugar in order to ameliorate the symptoms really got my attention, as suddenly no sugar is possible for me, while it was fine before. Thanks for posting...
fish life contamination...
is there a threat of CS in fish? if so, how bad is exposure?
Hot Fish
I personally consider Alaska, Canada, Washington, Oregon and Northern California to be 'hot'. The Jet Stream and rains are the big players.
That torrential March/April precipitation flushed a lot of radionuclides from the atmospheric fallout onto the West Coast land/water/plants. Boston/Vermont/Boise had the same problem.
I semi-binged and stocked the larder with tuna, salmon, mushrooms, fresh cheese and lots of other 'high risk foods', before the radionuclide storm arrived in mid-March.
US food desirability would have been greatly enhanced with a geographically focused 60 day 'milk dump' and 'salad toss'. Alas, that did not occur. I don't like wasting food or buying poison.
The radioactive bubble has passed, to my satisfaction, for most of the food groups now. Some exceptions are North Pacific fish, mushrooms, goat cheese, strawberries, West Coast Wines (vintage 2011). I will be wary of North Pacific fish for years, unless extensive testing points to the contrary. I am semi-avoiding the other items for a little longer.
The packagers and retailers have responded with generic USA labels. Since I cannot effectively cherry pick geography, the preferred foods for now are from Mexico and further south. That unnecessarily punishes southern farmers.
Anything that happens to me
Anything that happens to me in the next 50 years I would blame Fukushima. I'd die sooner than that, though. Godzilla is coming.
There is NO DANGER
“There is no danger”
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/650198068/Fallout-thyroid-link-gets-b...
Four studies were conducted of Utah schoolchildren exposed to radioactive fallout from Nevada nuclear weapon tests.
J Truman, originally from southern Utah and now a resident of Malad, Idaho, was among the group of children first tested in the early 1960s and then retested. "As a participant in that study since its beginning I can't say it's comforting to see the final verdict," he said in an e-mail. "Far from it. There's only anger."
He is angry about the endless government repetitions of "there is no danger" as fallout was coming down. Truman also feels anger about the federal government pulling the funding on the next follow-up tests, "when the new links (between fallout and disease) started emerging."
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/650198069/Underground-blasts-were-als...
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/650198500/Fallout-from-the-new-fallou...
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/650198389/Matheson-acts-on-fallout-st...
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/635189839/Thyroid-woes-a-long-term-ri...
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/635184516/CDC-posts-final-report-on-f...
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/635180019/Fallout-study-corrects-old-...
It seems quite unlikely that
It seems quite unlikely that there would be high enough concentrations of radionuclids in Europe to cause radiation symptoms, especially blistering mouths?? Perhaps this may be due to sunburn?
However, I continue to be concerned over possible exposure to "hot particles" on the Northwest coast and find the reports of "red skin" and breathing difficultries interesting. Since running in Vancouver a day after radiation spikes on the NW coast on May 15/16 (based on Seattle data), I have felt restriction and burning in my lungs with intermittent dry cough (no allergies). Also an intermittent slight tingle on one of my cheeks where there is a faint red spot that seemed like a tiny flat blister at the beginning. Also felt, along with other people, that sun has been much more intense and burning more easily than usual these past two months in Vancouver. I thought perhaps this is too far-fetched, but wondering if I may have been hit by and inhaled alpha-emitting particles. Not so unlikely after seeing the recent Pu data for California…
Yes, I have similar flat red
Yes, I have similar flat red spots that look like burns but don't feel like burns. They are itchy rather than painful, and the first ones I have had for over a month. I went to the dermatologist's office, saw the assistant, who didn't know what it was. I am now waiting to go back to see the dermatologist. They look like small radiation burns on google images, and I really hope that they are not.
Wish it was sunburn...
Fraid the blistering mouth effect is not sunburn, as we get it even when inside--red patches, burning and itchy, worse on exposed skin like face--and while I've had sunburn in the past I have never had it inside my mouth for months. Yes we have also noticed that the sun has more of a burning effect when we do go outside. Also a lot of upper respiratory stuff in other people and children (I have not had that). Nausea a common symptom, worse for going outside.
Recall Arnie G said he was surprised that the West Coast of US didn't get many fewer hot particles than Japan--so maybe we should not be surprised that we are seeing effects in Europe.
Herpes and shingles
Herpes would be 'way up there' in the differential diagnosis, for the mouth sores.
Valtrex (Valacyclovir Hydrochloride) is a useful therapeutic agent for the condition.
It is a good idea to rule out the more commonplace maladies such as shingles for rashes.
Soap and water is also an excellent starting place, where there are personal hygene issues.
When these basic items have been ruled out, then the more exotic items become of interest.
If radioactive fallout is a source for West Coast signs and symptoms, some sort of concentration mechanism by nature or man, would appear to be necessary.
sorry, brain dead
Sorry, a bit brain dead, I meant the blistering mouth effect we also get when not going out--the skin burning thing is another thing. also not related to going out, though when you do go in the sun, it seems more burn-ish and intense. hope that makes sense...
Red Herring Alert
:(
The exposure levels of Japanese children in the Fukushima area, appear to support a differential diagnosis of ARS.
On the other hand, it appears highly unlikely, by my lights, that US West Coast fallout levels and/or alpha, beta, gamma & neutron values are consistent with Acute Radiation Syndrome (ARS) or radionuclide chemical poisoning. This appears to be a hypochondriac or a shill that is wasting our time.
Dante's Inferno has a bottom layer reserved for such behavior.
:(
"Appears highly unlikely"?
"Appears highly unlikely"? You don't know, because little research has appeared in the English-language journals on non-lethal and non-acute symptoms associated with radiation exposure measured over time. Much of the research that has been done is in that Chernobyl book published by the NYAS. After having read many dismissals of the book in the US and European media, I read it for myself. Not only were all the dismissals plain lies (eg there are a lot of peer reviewed published studies in there, many published in non-English languages, and it does NOT claim, as nuke shills suggested, that the boozy illness cirrhosis of the liver is caused by Chernobyl), but there was much in there that documents the many health effects of low-level exposures.
The precursor of much epidemiological research is symptom documentation such as is going on here. Contrary to some people's view, these symptoms are not a notifiable disease so there is not a lot of point in having them "documented" by doctors. Instead, we should make good use of the hard-won research that's already out there, including in this NYAS book. Not saying everything in it is gospel, but there is useful data in there.
/\Sound kind of familiar?/\
Red herring is an idiomatic expression referring to the rhetorical or literary tactic of diverting attention away from an item of significance.[1] For example, in mystery fiction, where the identity of a criminal is being sought, an innocent party may be purposefully cast in a guilty light by the author through the employment of false emphasis, deceptive clues, 'loaded' words or other descriptive tricks of the trade. The reader's suspicions are thus misdirected, allowing the true culprit to go (temporarily at least) undetected. A false protagonist is another example of a red herring.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring
The only "red herring" that I see here is your post. Well, to be fair you did label it "Red herring alert". :0
Indeed. Well played sir!
Indeed. Well played sir!
i'm not
I am not the op.
But I do have some symptoms as I mentioned. Nausea, red spots, sneezing.
May or may not be from Fukushima, but just letting the op know I have got some weird stuff lately and no I am not making it up.
Ugh. Bill. You freaking
Ugh. Bill. You freaking hypocrite.
Yes I feel ill
I feel the nausea too. It is very subtle though. I do have to say it is very unusual. I have the iron stomach and never feel sick like this. Lately I have this constant feeling like I am both slightly dizzy and might throw up. Some food favorites are a turn off now, and I have another weird symptom, that I noticed on other people too.
After spending a day outdoors, I get little tiny marks on exposed skin, almost like a small pimple. Not a lot but enough of them to take notice. They do not hurt or itch just red marks. Then after a few days they vanish. I live in San Diego, California. I keep telling myself it is not radiation damage, just to keep myself calm about it. Thank you for sharing your episodes with me, now I know I am not alone with this.
I normally never get
I normally never get nose-bleeds but had a very mild on-and-off one in late March early April, and now it no longer happens. Did anyone else notice this symptom?
Mocking the truly sick
.
Mocking sick Japanese children may be a dangerous endgame. The historical Japanese method of dealing with such affronts, is well, perhaps a bit unpleasant.
But hey, you shills have a gameplan.
Go for it!
It is so obvious what you're
It is so obvious what you're trying to do. You keep stating it in your subject lines.
You are the only one here(in this thread)that is bringing up radiation sickness. You are the one mocking these innocent children. Using them for your agenda while trying to act like their defender? That is low.
I'm glad that you alluded to seppuku.It's probably a good option for you and your TEPCO buddies. Ya know, save face, protect profits.
ansatsu
The reference is to ansatsu and kiru rather than seppuku.
What type of spots?
How many spots? Do they actually come to a head like a pimple? Or just a red mark?
the spots
Only when I have been outdoors for a while. They do not come to a head. They are like tiny red pimples, only just red not full of you know (puss). I keep myself covered from the sun but on exposed skin like face and hands and feet I sometimes see these spots. I have seen them on my pals nose, or on his head. It is something I have never had or at least before.
I have one of these. Are
I have one of these. Are your raised red spots with scaly skin? If so, get them checked by a dermatologist. Mine showed up in May and I believe it is a precancer spot...very easily treated with solarace...but please go to your dermatologist and get them checked out. Related to Fukishima ? I believe, yes. I was not in the sun or outside more than 15-20 min at a time during April or May. I am seeing my dermatologist next week.
Eczema
Eczema
no, not eczema
Eczema doesn't come as a small spot...this is different. I'll know more next week.
thnx scaly skin...
thanks for your post, I do not have scaly skin with my red spots. They are like "red pimples" and do not hurt, or burst but fade out after about 2 days or so. I too stayed in a lot during March April and May. However these spots occur after being outside. I also have feel sick to my stomach mostly after being outside for more than two hours at a time, and I sneeze a lot I do not have allergies. I suspect Fukushima but don't want to create a panic.
hives - prob stress related
hives - prob stress related
Dr. House, paging Dr. House
Med school? Which one did you attend? I have never heard of "hives" described like this before.
not hives
It is not hives it does not itch and these are random. LIke three tiny red spots here and there. Not a full out rash of hives.
yes, in europe too
Yes, here in Europe too. Also metallic taste in mouth, blistering in mouth, skin burning and itching, etc. A number of us are minimising sugar intake, which ameliorates symptoms a bit--this is a trick recommended by docs who treated people after the US nuked Hiroshima/Nagasaki.
Europe eh? Where about? We
Europe eh? Where about? We are in Amsterdam and things are just lovely! It's a bit cloudy but that's to be expected. No radiation sickness here friend...I wonder if we just got lucky?
Nausea
not since we stopped eating at the food trucks...
Seriously, radiation levels are WAY down compared to two months ago (and were not that high then.) If you are sick it is not due to Fukushima.
It doesn't exactly matter if
It doesn't exactly matter if radiation levels are down if the person's body is infected with radioactive particles from 2 months ago. Does it.
Check this out
I was unaware of the Biological Half Life concept until it was brought up in this forum. See this link:
http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/node/3165
Take a look, things don't stick around forever (luckily).
half life
Half life of Cesium-137 is 30.17 years. Biological half life in dogs is about 70 days. 10 half lives is generally accepted to get it to approximately 0. that's 700 days...about 2 years. Other isotopes are forever, ie. plutonium. Cesium is attracted to sand and is water soluable. He may also be getting recontaminated through food, water, or something in your yard. Check dairy and broad leaf products. Install an RO water purifier. The way to know for sure if it's radioisotopes is to have the blood checked. Good idea anyway, it's might be something easily treatable and have nothing to do with nuclear, or could be nuclear. Blood tests are cheap.
Is there a blood test that
Is there a blood test that one could take to detect abnormal amounts of radiation accumulation in the body? Assuming all else is well, is there a test that could detect this? If not, there should be one developed eh?
biological half life of
biological half life of iodine = 100 days :(
Yeah, but that's straight
Yeah, but that's straight iodine, not I-131, which has a half life of 8 days. If one were to be exposed the I-131 the huge majority of it would decay (that's send off radiation) long before cycling out of the body as just plain old iodine.
At this point, there is absolutely no reason to worry about iodine. It's the other stuff that's still around...and quite frankly, for those in the US, we may be nuts to worry about that.
I have been accused of being nuts at times.
Another iodine isotope of
Another iodine isotope of interest in connection with radioactive waste and reprocessing plants is Iodine-129, which has a half-life of 15.7 million years.
Where do iodine-129 and
Where do iodine-129 and iodine-131 come from?
Both iodine-129 and iodine-131 are produced by the fission of uranium atoms during operation of nuclear reactors and by plutonium (or uranium) in the detonation of nuclear weapons.
Iodine-129 and iodine-131
Iodine-129 and iodine-131 are gaseous fission products that form within fuel rods as they fission. Unless reactor chemistry is carefully controlled, they can build up too fast, increasing pressure and causing corrosion in the rods. As the rods age, cracks or wholes may breach the rods.
Cracked rods can release radioactive iodine into the water that surrounds and cools the fuel rods. There, it circulates with the cooling water throughout the system, ending up in the airborne, liquid, and solid wastes from the reactor. From time to time, reactor gas capture systems release gases, including iodine, to the environment under applicable regulations.
Anywhere spent nuclear fuel is handled, there is a chance that iodine-129 and iodine-131 will escape into the environment. Nuclear fuel reprocessing plants dissolve the spent fuel rods in strong acids to recover plutonium and other valuable materials. In the process, they also release iodine-129 and -131 into the airborne, liquid, and solid waste processing systems. In the U.S., spent nuclear fuel is no longer reprocessed, because of concerns about nuclear weapons proliferation.
I assure you...we are nuts.
I assure you...we are nuts.
Speak for yourself
Speak for yourself
I am in Las Vegas and have
I am in Las Vegas and have never felt better. Glad I am going in to Armageddon with a clean slate.