Dry hacking coughs and asthma
I am seeing people who normally have no allergies or respiratory problems have problems here in Northern CA. My asthma and allergies are normally gone this type of year. Even the pharmacist said they have never seen anything like it and believe it is mold, pollen etc etc.
I want to believe that but after Gunderson reporting the 3 reactors are nonstop spewing their poison, and wind is blowing around pre deposited stuff here....could there be a bigger story here? I know the weather hasnt been normal, but Im hitting my asthma inhaler multiple times a day and I never do. Family members are having problems too.
If reactor four collapses/topples/explodes I can tell you with the last resources I have Im heading to South America and will maintain a holding pattern.
checking that symptoms are radiation-related
HI guys, apologies for cross-posting but here is a quick reference so you can check whether your symptoms are likely to be radiation-related, from the homeopathic materia medica:
http://abchomeopathy.com/r.php/Rad-b
Needless to say, many of them do seem to be.
Checking in with this
Hey, just checking in with this. For the record I am 45 and live in S. California. I have never had an allergy in my life, nor asthma. Nor do any of my six siblings or any other extended family, cousins, aunts, uncles. Guess what now we are sharing common symptoms. And I am the only one reading this blog spot, they are not even tuned into Fukushima fallout, either in denial or don't care ect. So it is not paranoia in the group, I am sure of that !
Random tummy aches, red spots, hacking coughs, headaches, incredible sneezing, swollen glands and lymph nodes, burning eyes. The symptoms are not acute, I think that is why many people are not going to the doctor. They are random.
However I will say this, I attended a graduation ceremony two weeks ago at UC Santa Barbara. We were sitting for five hours on the grass and it was misting out, sort of foggy and wet. By that evening I was so sick, acute headache and vomiting. I ended up at UCLA emergency room. And guess what I am not a hypochondriac, and even worse I do not health insurance so going to the ER was a huge expense for me.
we had heavy rains recently,
we had heavy rains recently, which don't normally appear in May/June. Those help foster mold growth and an uptick in weeds, which produce pollen, which is probably what people are hacking about.
My five year old has had a
My five year old has had a dry cough for a couple of weeks. He's never had allergies or asthma and never had a cough like this. Not accompanied by runny nose, fever or any cold or virus. He said he feels something weird in his chest and when he breathes deeply it kind of hurts. We live in Santa Monica, CA.
Litigation
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Let us posit that there are widespread signs and symptoms associated with the recent Vast Northern Hemispheric Radionuclide Storm of 2011:
Some variation in sensitivity, to a given internal radionuclide load, would be expected.
Long term cancer probabilities are directly related to dosage, but there are again, some variations in sensitivity.
I do not recall from the Chernobyl literature, if short term sensitivity was tied to long term cancer rates. I do recall that severity of cancer and survival rates are not radionuclide dose related. You get it or you don't.
In any event, neutral medical documentation will be helpful in class action litigation against General Electric and the other players.
The defendants are already preparing their multiple level strategies. Charges of hypochondria and other mental disorders will be a part of this legal defense. Induced denial and peer pressure is another element. Fear of economic collapse is a third. These merchants of death are setting up a gauntlet for the victims of their shoddy designs, products and operating procedures. The Congress, Courts, Executive Branch and media are already 'on board'.
My wife and I have the same symptoms
hacking cough on maui. probably a good thing then we can hack out the plutonium we inhaled.
peace irradiated brothers and sisters.
To the people who want all
To the people who want all of us symptom-experiencers to rush to doctors and not discuss here, let me repeat that conventional medicine has no answer for low level radiation poisoning. As far as I know, no one has--this is why nuclear technology is dangerous. Doctors cannot give you a pill for it and then you are better--they are not miracle workers. The remedy for high-level radiation poisoning is a blood transfusion, and I am not going to take on the risks of a transfusion for symptoms such as some of us are feeling. Also, if those of us with the characteristic symptoms were to take this advice to go to doctors seriously, there would be hundreds of us jamming up the waiting room, for no benefit.
It is not true that if this was from the radiation, that everyone would feel it. Even in animal toxicological tests with very high doses of poison, not every animal is affected. It depends on individual susceptibility.
However, it is very important for us to attest to these symptoms among ourselves. The nuke industry only keeps going because of lack of openness and information sharing. Let's not collude in this process by keeping odd/unusual symptoms a secret.
Who said to not discuss it here?
Can you please point out where someone said to not discuss symptoms here?
I believe the only points that were made were:
1. Do not self diagnose. You are not an expert. No matter how much you've read on the internet.
2. Not seeing a doctor could let a treatable condition go untreated. Which is dangerous.
It appears that you are thinking of reasons to not go see a doctor. I would like to know what harm you believe would come from you getting checked out.
Also, talking about it ONLY on the internet does not serve the purpose you stated in your last paragraph. The final assessment of this situation is not going to come from us talking about it on forums. It will come from professionals *documenting* the number of patients with symptoms, how severe those symtoms were, where those symptoms were seen, how long the symptoms lasted, and the final outcome of those with symptoms. Keeping it "among ourselves" serves no purpose other than to frighten people (possibly needlessly) and create internet rumors just like we see about Chernobyl. And because it's just Joe Nobody saying they had symptoms, it's not quatified and easily dismissed by the industries.
The bottom line is that you are doing nobody any favors by not going to see a doctor. Not yourself, not your family, not your friends and (if it actually is radiation poisoning) not future generations who could benefit from the knowledge gained.
Now, if you've mananged to convince yourself that you have been exposed to high levels of radiation and are destined to suffer from that for the rest of your life, I wish you all the luck in the world in dealing with that. But, if I believed that, I'd be looking at every possible way to *validate it* before I pushed my future into that physical and mental abyss.
A zeolite flush, among other
A zeolite flush, among other options, removes the "destined to suffer from it for the rest of your life" panic that people seem to assume is included in any mention of symptoms that are very likely in reaction to fallout.
As I said before, I do have
As I said before, I do have symptoms and have talked to doctors (2 of them). They agree that the symptoms are consistent with low level radiation poisoning. there is also nothing they can do. but I have said this before, so should be no need to say it again. This should not alarm people or make them "shout". this is just how it is.
Radiation poisoning is from
Radiation poisoning is from high levels of radiation.
We are talking symptoms from LOW levels of radiation coming over here from Japan, not radiation poisoning.
Please see the "Hot Particles" topic and read about CsCL. It is completely possible.
I don't think anyone is going into a physical and mental abyss...just looking for answers to questions here.
You know.....
I have read all the comments and I don't want to downplay anyone's concerns but the situation begs for the reminder that, due to various climate changes, many areas are seeing lessened or worsened allergy seasons. Normally, where I live, allergy season lasts all summer due to pollen, heat and crop dusting but the brunt of it takes place between March and May. "Normally" it would be already pushing 90 degrees. But this hasn't been a normal summer this far. We have had multiple rain storms, temps dropping down into the 40s at night and a day time high of 60. This has lengthened the allergy season here. And there is a nasty cold going around, with the majority of the symptoms being scratchy throat, sore throat, dry eyes, running nose, mild fever, headaches and oh yippy skippy, a resulting sinus infection for those of us unlucky enough to be prone to getting them.
The fact is, now that we are aware of the problem, you WILL be more aware of what is going on around you and question what is happening to you and your loved ones. But, as in the case of where I live, when you have two years in a row now of changing weather patterns and thus resulting different seasons for allergies and sickness; it's hard to compare times past and use that as an example of something being "wrong". I am very aware of what is going on in Japan but I also understand there is still sickness, allergies and other things going on here NOT related to Fukishima. And yes, I am a mom, I have kids and I have to battle worrying daily about what all of this is doing to my 3 year old and 7 month old. So no lectures, please, on not understanding what it is like to worry about your family.
+1. I'm betting we're not
+1. I'm betting we're not far from each other given your description of the weather. This has been the weirdest, coolest spring I have seen. No doubt it has changed the pollen in the air.
Hyper-acute awareness can make one notice things they other wise wouldn't. I bet someone could go grab a quart of milk and "taste" the iodine or cesium in it. I have had times in my life when I was kind of a hypochondriac, and this has a similar feel. Easy to drive your self nuts.
Hey BC
I am willing to admit that I live in the Central Cali Valley, near Sac. Where are you? (Aprox.)
Why associate the sharing of
Why associate the sharing of symptoms with being a hypochondriac? This invalidates them.
I do not mean to invalidate
I do not mean to invalidate anyone's concerns, but I am saying that if you view every thing that happens through Fukushima tinted glasses, how can you help but make false conclusions?
The levels detected here in the US are very low, and while I can see the long-term cancers, etc, I have an extremely hard time believing that there are people with radiation sickness in this country.
I see what your saying. I
I see what your saying. I thought it was assumed that these were symptoms from low level radiation exposure. Acute radiation sickness is different.
If there was radiation sickness in this country.....
It would be on a massive scale. There would be no "I THINK I have radiation sickness". And the medical community would be all over it. Not that they could do a lot about it. But, they would be sounding the alarm like there's no tomorrow. There is no way you could shut them up. And for all the wrong reasons, WHO and every US goverment agency would be all over it just to justify their own existences.
I agree, just look at the
I agree, just look at the H1N1 "Pandemic" If it's out there for them to grab, they will.
They grabbed N1H1 because
They grabbed N1H1 because therecwas money to be made from mass vaccinations, big drug makers in this country have us over the barrel. In the case of the medical community admitting they are seeing low level radiation illnesses would not benefit anyone but cause the medical community a big headache as there is no conventional cure. There are tests however that can be done to check for exposure but I am sure they are difficult to get.
Look, I don't know if your
Look, I don't know if your 'symptoms' are related to Fukushima, but please realize you are much more aware of your environmental surroundings now that you're looking AT it and FOR it. Stop self-diagnosing yourselves with diseases or you'll end up killing yourself with ulcers.
We will all live to see another day, even if we have the most contamination Fukushima has to offer (at least from this distance). There's nothing you can do, so why worry about it? Control what you can, do your best and forget the rest. We can complain all we want, but in the end, we get what we get and it's all random.
You'll get a better night's sleep out of it I assure you.
Hmm .... 'symptoms"...in
Hmm .... 'symptoms"...in quotations.
Another way to disregard them.
This thread is getting increasingly strange with people patronizing those with real symptoms that they MAY be having or had due to LOW radiation exposure. Why is this so threatening? Because they did not experience them themselves? Because Doctors always know best and we should run to them with every little thing going on with our body (let alone do we have the money or time to do so). So, I am wondering where the hostility is coming from, because I am feeling it.
The ONLY reason I posted mine was to agree with the OP that I too suffered a very intense allergy-like season that I don't usually suffer for in spring. I usually only get mild fall allergies. Who knows exactly why. Discussions and sharing are the forefront of discovery, however. Food for thought.
http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=43451
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I had a "allergy type"
I had a "allergy type" symptoms on two non-consecutive days this week. I don't have any allergies.
I rarely feel unwell and the only other "negative health" symptoms I've felt since this whole thing started was some throat "throbbing" (not a sore throat, more like my neck was throbbing) for 3-4 days in late March that never returned, including this week.
This leads me to wonder if things at F got better after March but then got worse again very recently. I'd love to be wrong.
I haven't experienced
I haven't experienced anything unusual.
Me either
Me either
S. America
Yeah, if you go to S. America look me up, OP from Patagonia post.
I have a hacking cough that
is on and off and my lymph nodes feel swollen intermittently. I am not a smoker.
Those who would prefer
Those who would prefer people who suffer symptoms from low-level radiation poisoning to see a doctor and refrain from discussing here should bear in mind that:
1. one or two doctors do know about low-level radiation poisoning from cancer radiotherapy treatment. they know the symptoms. I have talked to two doctors now outside the consulting room who agree that what they are seeing is consistent with radiation poisoning.
2. doctors cannot do anything about it. The only people who occasionally suggest any answers at all are the naturopathic practitioners, whose treatment may or may not work--I have not tried it. They do apparently use these methods in Chernobyl and surrounds, even the conventional docs.
3. These symptoms are different from those of allergies to pollen, dust, foods etc.
People with symptoms: expect the next message from the deniers to be: see a psychiatrist. That is what I was told on some comment threads, and pro-nukers in the West also claim that all the people who suffered from radiation from Chernobyl were only suffering a psychiatric condition, fear of radiation. Tell that to the kids born with birth defects who were in utero at time of the accident.
4. Many doctors are not as stupid as the symptom-deniers think. that is why they, along with epidemiologists, are excluded from nuclear 'debates' in pro-nuke countries. Those in Belarus/Ukraine are extremely outspoken and well educated, but when even their research is peer reviewed and published, the pro-nukers over here refuse to believe it.
No excuse to not see a doctor
If my family or myself is sick to the point of having the symptoms as described, THEY ARE GOING TO THE DOCTOR. PERIOD. Anything less is just plain negligent. The symptoms could be from many illnesses. The worst that will happen is you are treated for (or advised to be treated for) allergies and the waste of your time. However, if you are not seen by a doctor, the worst that could happen is the symptoms are from a much more serious issue, which could be not related to either allergies or radiation. And it will go untreated and get worse (possibly life threatening) because of radiation paranoia. Radiation or not, I'd want my symptoms *documented*.
And I don't think anyone has said that it should not be discussed here. The question was why only here and not a doctor. The only "refraining" advice I see in this thread is to refrain from speaking to doctors.
Denial on this subject comes in two forms. There's denial that it could be radiation and there's denial that it may not be radiation. It's clear where the posters on this thread stand.
I understand your point,
I understand your point, however, sometimes it takes a while to piece things together. I don't usually go to a doctor for only swollen lymph nodes. Could be a cold coming on. Nor do I go if I get a sunburn with eyes that burn. Allergies and sunburn can cause that. If I have a cough, I don't go to the dr. right away....it usually works itself out. Now, that I look back through the month of April and half of May I can see that all this oddly correlated with what was happening in Japan. I am not an expert and don't claim to know what is going on...just sharing my symptoms. And I have shared this with a dr. that is in the family...just in another state. So please don't stifle a conversation because you are assuming that we are all in denial of sorts. Not sure what purpose that serves you to say that.
Not trying to stifle a conversation
I only mentioned denial because of the following comment in the post above:
"3. These symptoms are different from those of allergies to pollen, dust, foods etc. People with symptoms: expect the next message from the deniers to be: see a psychiatrist"
If anyone leans toward only one cause of the symptoms, they are denying that there could be other causes. My only suggestion is to keep your options open and get checked out.
If suggesting that there may be causes other than radiation for your symptoms is concidered stifling the conversation, I'll be happy to drop off this thread.
I have spoken to doctors.
I have spoken to doctors. the result was as I described. they think the symptoms are consistent with radiation poisoning. there is nothing they can do. next suggestion please.
for those who do wish to ask docs for medications, they are likely to end up with anti-inflammatory/anti-allergy medications, which I have also heard are being prescribed for such symptoms. this will suppress the symptoms. but those symptoms are there because the body is trying to chuck out an irritant/toxic substance. so what's the point of suppressing symptoms?
And you trust them?
What kind of doctor says "Yeah, it's radiation poisoning. Nothing I can or will do about that. Good luck!!!"?
Lots of nuke shills around
Lots of nuke shills around here with $$$$$$ on their minds. Threaten their bank accounts and they start to panic.
I too have had the dry hacking cough and asthma
It started shortly after the earthquake. But, then so did the pollen season. It's the worst I've had it. My allergies have acted up. But, not the usuaal full blown runny nose. Just post nasal drip. Which is probably enough to start things rolling in my lungs. Allergy meds and occassional inhaler knock it out. My older son had it before the earthquake. And my second son got it the same time I did. With all the rain and plant growth we've had in Calif, I'm not surprised. I went to the east coast for a bit and it eased up a lot. Even at home in Calif, the cough has cut down quite a bit and I don't need the inhaler nearly as much. I have days where it acts up and days when I totally forget about it. And I did have a short period of this last Sept. for some reason. So, I'm chocking it up to allergies at this time. If it lasts the whole summer (pollen shouldn't be hanging around beyond June), then I'll get concerned that there's something else going on.
yes same thing here in
yes same thing here in Europe. Also some odd and characteristic symptoms of low level radiation poisoning: burning skin and eyes, dry mouth, metallic taste in mouth, blistering mouth, and sunburn without going outside. red, itchy skin that burns and prickles. Also nausea. Good thing is, it all seems to have decreased since April.
I have noticed that one way to really make the pro-nuke shills mad on comments threads is to start talking about these symptoms. They would prefer that we pretend that radiation doesn't harm anyone except maybe those standing right on top of the reactor, and even then, if they weren't killed stone dead at the time, they are fine... and hey, no one ever died from radiation exposure anyway. yes really, they are making these arguments in some otherwise well educated comment threads...
I'd go see a doctor
I'm not a pro-nuke shill. But, honestly. You should go see a doctor for your symtoms. You must be allergic to something. And I highly doubt it's the radiation.
No, I second his symptoms. I
No, I second his symptoms. I think it is because radiation suppresses the immune system. Having radioactive isotopes in the body is very straining on the body, as well you can imagine.
same symptoms
I drove across the country away from initial plume that hit West Coast and then back through whatever was going on 2 months late from deep south to CA. I had blistering mouth and whole family all the symptoms our European friend is reporting. Naseau every day. even my daughter (3) was occasionally dry heaving and a few times throwing up. This was over intermittently the span of weeks. No one was outright sick. this was intermittent.
I can promise you this, the damage is done and being done continually. If reactor 4 goes, convoy to South America...yep..I dont joke around with my little girl. Drove across the US the first time knowing they (Tepco at least) were lying (but made a vacation out of it). If this effects my little daughter in any way (and Im sure millions of other children), we're gonna have a problem....
>"gonna have a problem"
Yep, I have the same thoughts about how I'd react if my kids,wife,family & pets are confirmed to have been sickened or worse from the vile crap being touted by the D.O.E. as "Safer than peanut butter" and can promise that you won't be the only one to have an EXTREME reaction to any harm resulting from the incident,and/or those who covered it up and give pro-nuke disinformation propaganda instead of responding to such a serious public health issue. I also have a running start regarding specific individuals & their benefactors to hold personally responsible with many creative ways to implement street justice-ranging from methods of dealing with them & haven't ruled out giving some an unplanned vacation "they just couldn't refuse to accept" and a dietary schedule & "special" menu of food products that they would have to clean off their plate to the last,glowing crumb & a couple of nice,tall glasses of chalky,gritty,metallic milk loaded with Cesium to wash it all down!!-3 times a day with a midnite snack! The worst part is that as soon as the Alliance of nuke-industry affiliated media learned of the motive & details of any such incidents-they'd drop the story or "edit" it according to the source of their noses brown appearance and change the story to suit the needs of those who have embraced this crap technology. Anybody who puts their profits above anyone else's childrens health & lives are filthy people we could do without anyway. Still though-I hope I never have to put any vengeful ideas into action since it would mean I'd suffered the kind of loss associated with worst nightmares as a parent coming true!! If my mindset is considered improper under the circumstances I'd described then too bad because I make no apologies for the reactions I KNOW I'd have & my will to live would cease with the preventable deaths of my loved ones following my final acts of retribution...PEACE
Let me see if I understand correctly
You believe you drove through radioactive contamination at high enough levels to cause the following symptoms in your *whole* family:
1. burning skin and eyes
2. dry mouth
3. metallic taste in mouth
4. blistering mouth
5. sunburn without going outside
6. red, itchy skin that burns and prickles
7. nausea
8. swollen lymph nodes randomly
And you didn't go see a doctor? If not, why not? I'm having a difficult time understanding why you are sitting at your pc telling strangers on a forum about your symptoms and you haven't sought medical attention for daughter or yourself. Blistering in the mouth, sunburn, red itchy skin and swollen lymph nodes can all be easily demonstrated to a doctor. A doctor will have to take your word for the rest of the symptoms. If confronted with this list of symptoms, I don't think any doctor would chock it up to allergies.
I had these symptoms also
I had these symptoms also and I did not go see a doctor. They did not come all at one time, and I was not sure at the time if they were allergies from our trees blooming, or the radiation. However, I am sure if I did go to a doctor for one, two, or three of these symptoms they would have treated me for allergies and sent me on my way. I almost did go when my eyes and skin were burning bad, however I was so completely stressed out from this whole ordeal and was consumed with stocking up on food. You see, I am not the only person I have to worry about. I have two small children who I was trying to protect from all this mess and researching everything from food to air filters, to water and shower filters, to school playgrounds, to "should we get the hell out of here". So ...no, I did not see a doctor, however I do plan to see one soon for some tests and odd skin lesions on my face that look like pre-cancer that have shown up in the last month. I believe the reason we are telling strangers on a forum about our symptoms is because we are aware of the dangers of low-level radiation and have come to the conclusion that most of the public has been led to believe the bs that no precautions are necessary for what is going on in Fukushima including doctors. And btw, I never experience allergies like this and have never had such major allergy issues.
Cancer is not a rash
Regarding your "odd skin lesions on my face that look like pre-cancer that have shown up in the last month" comment.
Cancer is not a rash. And it doesn't just go away on it's own. If you go to see a doctor about it, they will diagnose it. Unless you believe doctors are also incapable of diagnosing cancer.
Also, I don't know of any allergy meds that are prescribes or takes care of nausea or skin lesions. As another poster said, you are hyper-aware of your body right now. I highly recommend you to see a doctor and stop trying to figure things out on your own. You are literally creating a health situation for your self (and your loved ones) that is worse than anything we are getting from Japan. If we received such high doses of radiation from Japan, the illnesses would not be kept a secret. Not by the media, not by the govt. and certainly not by the medical community.
I totally agree with you.
I totally agree with you. With the numbers that we have really seen and with what the Brawn team has shown us in their very detailed reports, we have seen very small amounts of radiation here in the USA. With that being said, with what we have seen here, it doesn't seem possible for radiation poisoning to be happening here in the USA. Not saying that people aren't really having real symptoms but with everything that is on the computer that can be terrifying to read, it can make you physically sick with worry that can cause physical symptoms. If anyone is worried about symptoms, go and see your doctor. You will feel much better! I worry myself at times that I get crazy symptoms and that is why that I have been depending on this website and Brawns reports to get what I feel is the truth. I also keep up on the radiation network website and even reading that, nothing crazy as far as radiation has been noticed. I have learned that just because someone gives their opinion on the computer, that does not make it reality.
I thought we were just
I thought we were just sharing symptoms here....Not talking radiation poisoning...but symptoms that could be related to what may have come over from Japan...which were relatively low as far as BRAWM was concerned, but measurable. It takes ALOT of radiation to get radiation poisoning, however low doses and their effects are less understood. And I don't think anyone here is encouraging people to NOT see a Dr. Am I wrong?
There are a number of things being discussed here
Well, we should be just sharing symptoms. But, others are jumping in and effectively saying it's a waste of time to see a doctor. That doctors will simply prescribe allergy meds. Or there are doctors "who agree that what they are seeing is consistent with radiation poisoning", but do nothing about it. Does that sound like encouragement to see a doctor? Please read the posts and you'll see what I'm talking about.
Really? You know me this
Really? You know me this well? And I would have to disagree with you on the doses of radiation being kept secret. That has already been shown to be the case with the gov't and media in my opinion. And don't get me wrong, I love my country....but I am highly disappointed in how this situation has been handled by our govt and media. ...and I don't think I am alone here.
I was sharing my symptoms that are not of the norm and saying that I did not go see a doctor for them. I am not feeling ill...but have had odd symptoms that I usually do not have which I am...yes...relating it to the low levels of radiation that came over. How can you assume I am putting myself and my family in danger? An odd conclusion to come to when you have no clue who I am. I can assure you, if one of my family members was sick enough to see a doctor they would go. As for my skin (which frankly I am sorry I brought up)..the rash spots are signs of PRE-CANCER. I have had one on my arm for which I have seen a doctor for and my mother and father have had them over the yrs. You jumped the gun in commenting....I said I was going to the doctor for this which I will confirm (most likely) my self diagnosis...ha. Geez. It is just extremely odd at the timing of them showing up.
I think it is important that peoples symptoms (if any) are shared. It may be a piece in the puzzle down the line. No need to get all excited about it.
Jumped the gun?
I don't know how you can say I jumped the gun. It's not like I can interupt you here :-) And I don't know who you are except for "Anonymous". So, I don't know which statements you made amongst all the comments posted so far.
We are having a discussion of current symptoms folks believe are related to radiation. I have to assume you were attributing *all* of the symptoms to radiation.
And I'll stand by my comment that if family members are having the long list of symptoms itemized earlier, they should see a doctor. IMMEDIATELY.
I am not the OP, but the
I am not the OP, but the person who had SOME of the symptoms (omg this is getting confusing) for which I chose not to seek immediate medical attention for. They did not come all at once, and they are things that I usually don't seek immediate medical attention for.....however....looking back, this oddly correlates with Fuku. Other family members DID experience SOME symptoms (allergy-like sneezing, intermittant tummy aches, dry coughs) not bad enough or long enough to warrant a dr's visit at the time, but believe me if they would have worsened I would have taken them to see a Dr. I think we should assume that we are intelligent enough to do that. I also have a dry, red, patch of skin that is a pre-cancer. Now I know this word is scary...but many of us older folks get them here in CA. I know what it is and I will seek medical advice for it. I said the "gun was jumped" because in a response to my post it was ASSUMED that I was not seeking proper medical attention and that I thought doctors didn't know how to diagnose cancer. uhg!