What's that smell in the air - in the clouds and mist?
Anyone else in CA smell something in the mist tonight? To me and my friend it smells like a swimming pool (chlorine), but not quite. It's quite strong. I'm on the Central Coast.
Anyone else in CA smell something in the mist tonight? To me and my friend it smells like a swimming pool (chlorine), but not quite. It's quite strong. I'm on the Central Coast.
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Ok here is the thread from others reporting a smell in North County, Los Angeles, and other places to the east and to the north.
Huh ? I kinda suspect Fukushima is the smell is originating from the ocean for sure.
YES! I SMELL IT, TOO!
I can't tell you how validated I feel to read all these postings. I live in Sherman Oaks, CA, which is in the San Fernando Valley of Los Angeles County. I smell it tonight, Thursday, August 11 at 8:45pm. I've smelled it the past two nights, and I've smelled it periodically throughout the past year and possibly longer, typically at night and only once or twice in the afternoon. I only have one friend who's been able to identify it when we've been together -- everybody else says they can't. It's a disturbing scent because it's clearly chemical, but I can't identify what it is, and it makes me slightly nauseous.
METALLIC SMELL IN THE AIR !
LANCASTER , PALMDALE AREA CALIFORNIA PAST 3 DAYS OR MORE METALLIC STRONG SMELL IN THE AIR ? WHAT IS IT ?
metallic smell in the air lancaster
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..... Click the link for more information. County Fire Department. ``Crews monitored the air but didn't find anything.''
Just after 11:43 a.m. Thursday, rescue crews were called with reports of postal employees evacuating the post office at 1950 Rosamond Blvd. because of a strange onset of illnesses.
One employee reported a strange metallic smell near the rear of the building, officials said.
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The first team spent more than an hour checking every room of the building but found nothing unusual inside.
Outside, a second team had the postal employees remove and bag their clothes, then doused the staff with water before issuing them paper jumpsuits to wear while they were transported to the hospital.
could it be xenon133?
could it be xenon133?
Odorless
I think xenon is odorless. Could it be iodine?
Where
OK, where on the Central Coast?
And I don't mean to be flippant, but could it actually be chlorine from something commercial or a pool, or???
Los Osos and San Luis Obispo
Smelled it driving in the car from Los Osos into San Luis Obispo, whifs of it with window open, then when walking in a neighborhood later. It was definately in the mist in the area and do not know of any chemical production. Haven't smelled it before. Two of us smelled it.
Yes, what is it?
Yes, what is that smell in the air?
I have read comments about a
I have read comments about a "bleach-y metallic" scent on the west coast before.
I would avoid those smells, regardless of what is the source, as I can't think of a potentially healthy one. In any case, it wouldn't surprise me if radioactive metals and industrial byproduct would smell this way.
One day at the height of Los
One day at the height of Los Angeles' gross beta radioactive levels findings, I could taste a metallic-like taste in my mouth. Then I remembered that I live, unfortunately, close to the Golden State Fwy. And, who the heck knows exactly what is being transported daily on our freeways...
From Al Bartlett prior to
From Al Bartlett prior to Fukushima:
There’s an interesting headline from Los Angeles. (“…carcinogens in air…”) Maybe that has something to do with this headline from Los Angeles. (“Smog kills 1,600 annually…")
Source: http://www.albartlett.org/presentations/arithmetic_population_energy_tra...
I have been smelling what
I have been smelling what you described since 3/11. It is a metallic smell, and is only around during the high readings from EPA. It should be obvious.
Anxiety symptoms - Taste and
Anxiety symptoms - Taste and smell symptoms - A “tinny,” “metallic,” “ammonia,” “blood-like,” bitter, or odd or unusual smell or taste in the mouth and/or nose
Taste and smell symptoms: You have a sporadic or persistent odd taste or smell. Some describe it as “tinny,” “metallic,” “ammonia,” “blood-like,” “blood in the mouth,” bitter, or some other odd smell or taste. This smell or taste is not related to something you’ve eaten or from your environment. Most often it has no rational explanation.
http://www.anxietycentre.com/anxiety-symptoms/smells-or-tastes.shtml
If you hear hoof prints don't think zebras...you think horses. Anxiety KILLS!
Adrenaline?
Various literature (not going to reference any here, I'm on the road all day typing on my craptastic so-called "smart" phone with its millimetric-cum-Lilliputian keypad, with spacey connectivity -- often roaming, possibly better described as "wandering", "meandering", "migrating" or "on walkabout" -- and I'm certain there are about half a million sources that can be found in a heartbeat online) describes an acutely metallic -- some call it, "coppery" -- taste that often begins near the back of the mouth / throat and is especially prevalent at or near the roof of the mouth when someone's adrenaline (epinephrine) is elevated. In cases of extreme anxiety, stress.and duress, this sensation can be accompanied by tingling in the extremties, especially the fingertips, and also the lips and tongue. One of the other, less well-understood (from a physiological perspective) effects of stress, fear and anxiety is that it frequently renders the "victim" hyper-acutely aware of all manner of sensations -- exceptionally observant of and responsive to the vagaries of sight, sound, and, especially, touch, taste, and smell. In many cases the elevated senses and sensitivities SEEM to be communicating "new" realities, when in fact the person is simply more aware of what has always, or normally, existed in their environment and they are simply having their attention drawn to it in a fashion and to an extent not normally possible for them. The ability of the person experiencing heightened adrenaline to FOCUS on specific sensations and sensory input is another element to this; the hyper-awareness persons subjected to VERY acute stressors is thought by some to explain the famous "slow-motion" experience often cited by those in exceptionally dangerous or fear-inducing situations, and MAY also explain, to some extent, the equally well-known "life flashing before the eyes" experienced by some, since the mechanisms of the brain may be temporarily altered by such circumstances, triggering memories in rapid fashion.
However -- being stressed-out and even hyper-awareness is NOT, by itself, necessarily exclusive of or a total reftation of observable sensory input. I will say this: From a personal perspective, having experienced several immediately life-threatening circumstances and also being a "veteran", if you will, of a few longer-term stressful periods in life, I can attest that ALL of these "symptoms" associated with adrenaline and extended periods of anxiety do, in fact, happen. Not always, and never the same way, certainly not to the same extent or conveying the same exact sensations, each and every time... But it DOES happen. The funny thing about such an experience is, especially with regard to the longer-term, it builds on itself; the more freaked-out you are, the more acutely aware of everything you are, the more likely it is that you'll notice something "new' that freaks you out even more, and on and on and on. Fear becomes its own exponentially aggregating feedback loop, and when you add in the impact of lack of restful, reborative and restorative sleep, proper diet and stable emotions, it just becomes overwhelming and pretty soon you're wigging out about anything and everything.
My advice: Keep a daily journal, charting WHAT you experience, with HOW you FEEL. If you are experiencing the same stimuli in "good" times as you are when you're feeling stressed and worried, you MAY be able to "eliminate" adrenaline as a causative trigger. Of course I realize that many of us are, because of Fukushima, pretty well stressed all the time, these days; and a few of us may be pretty damned flaky generally. But, it's a start, perhaps. I would always counsel: Try and seek out alternate rational explanations. If you remain convinced, do just what's happening, here: Try tp find others to corroborate what you're experiencing. THEN start sounding the alarm, if possible and if you can on your "due diligence" find NO other benignly reasonable explanation.
Rick Cromack.
Allen, Texas
I'm afraid I lost all my
I'm afraid I lost all my forum friends after posting the "Fear doesn't take a holiday" thread. Hope all is well Rick! It's always good to a see a post from you! Fear and anxiety are nasty side effects of pulling back the curtain...I'm pretty familiar now with the physical and psychological symptoms of both these last couple months. BC - This weekend I did the same thing...said to hell with my worries and had a great BBQ on the beach. Sometimes we have to hand the reins over and live life to fullest I guess.
Rick- Over the past 2
Rick-
Over the past 2 months, I have experienced the metallic taste and a very odd loss of sensation in my tongue, lips, and fingers. It has oocured to me since day one that this was more likely due to anxiety than exposure.
Extremely uncool.
Yesterday, I said screw it, cleaned up the yard, busted out some BBQ, and mostly stayed the hell away from the computer.
I feel much better today.
You never know. The guy may
You never know. The guy may very well be a human geiger counter.
HUMAN GEIGER COUNTER, please, in order to test your superpowers, try to do this:
1) Stop checking the EPA data for a week
2) During that week, take notes about when and where you perceive the metallic smell
3) Compare your notes with the EPA data
???
PROFIT
Perhaps the taste and smell
Perhaps the taste and smell correlate with the high readings because you were experiencing alot of anxiety and worry after seeing the levels.
Not to discount the anxiety
Not to discount the anxiety theory - very valid - however in the case of the original question posted re: smell a few nights ago... We noticed a very strange odor/smell/whatever you want to call it outside on Sat or Sun eve (we live in Oceanside, CA). Spouse is a chemical engineer with lots of plant experience, working around all kinds of chemicals and plastics, etc. He had a hard time trying to identify it, and usually he's dead on. It was very strong, all over our neighborhood area and lasted for hours - perhaps through the night, not sure. Not aware of radiation emitting a signature smell, so that did occur to us. It was more of a sweet-ish, chemical organic smell. Very hard to describe. But definitely real. Coincidentally, after a quick google search, lots of other people in other areas were reporting a strange odor around the same time. I tried to do a balanced search i.e., a mix of conspiracy and non conspiracy sources LOL!
Overall, just weird and the first we've encountered this.
I've been smelling a acrid,
I've been smelling a acrid, "burnt electricity" smell from Oceanside to Fallbrook, coming West to East during the dates of 6/15 to 6/17 (today)- maybe continuing further. Never smelled it before. I suspect either a power plant issue, Camp Pendeleton Marine base doing something funny or, unlikely the San Onofre Nuclear plant. Or maybe something coming in from Japan?? Burns the hell out of my throat and bronchial tubes, sometimes lungs. I don't have any allergies that I know of (have lived here for 9 years) but it's getting worse. I may have to go to an ENT doc to check it out. Hope it's nothing harmful. Hate to get COPD, cancer or Mesothelioma in the futre from someone else's problems!
resolution
Get corroboration from others and have everybody call the EPA with as much data as you can muster. That is what they are there for.
I'm sure your suggestion is
I'm sure your suggestion is well meaning, but there are good reasons why people don't recommend or contact the "EPA".