Defective GE Mark-1 and GE Mark-2 reactors.

We are pretty lucky to be here at a forum of engineers...
Independent engineers.
This first message will be technical and politycal.
My 2nd message will be only technical...
I hope some comment of some independient engineers.

The General Electric Corporation designed all these failed Mark-1 reactor ‘containment’ systems. The GE Mark-1 has been openly identified as a nuclear hazard for decades. These defective GE Mark-1 and GE Mark-2 so called ‘containment’ systems should have all been removed from service years ago. But GE has massive political and media clout within the USA. “The world is your oyster”, describes the General Electric Corporation. GE has held clear title to the White House, Congress and the Supreme Court for over a century. GE cannot pay their part of the damages. The damages are too immense. GE cannot even afford to pay back their share of the profits from their knowingly, willfully defective Mark-1 designs.

So they won’t. GE has killed the story. It is of no consequence to GE or the national government if you and your family die early and painful deaths from cancer. Nothing will be done to reduce the hazard. Nothing will be broadcast to guide you toward safe choices. There are no public service announcements for this hazard. Drink deep the Purple Kool-Aid. Both political parties, both houses of congress, all fifty states, conservatives, liberals and libertarians, the national press corps and the entire speaker’s bureau are on board. They are all cooing that there is no danger. But of course there is great danger from Japan and USA Mark-1 reactors.

These aging, corroded, always defective GE Mark-1 designs are being strained 20% beyond their nameplate power ratings with weapons grade plutonium fuel. They are all being licensed for a 50% extension beyond their nominal design life of 40 years. The Vermont Yankee reactor was issued a 20 year life extension with MOX fuel power up-rating, on March 12, 2011. This NRC relicensing occurred the day after the tsunami, as the Fukushima reactors were literally melting down. The world, you see, is GE’s oyster.

Mitsui-Moex settlement is dissembling

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This ‘out-of-court’ settlement is a ceremonial dance of nations and corporations. The players are being less than candid. The BP MACONDO blowout caused $100B in US damages. GE defective nuclear containment designs have caused, perhaps $3T in Nippon damages. Both companies were knowingly, willfully, provably and criminally negligent. Unlawful deaths have occurred. GE and BP have their hooks in the equally culpable White House.

The music has started. Up goes the curtain. Japan, England and the USA are dancing with GE, Hitachi and TEPCO. Now BP and Mitsui join in the deadly nuclear charade.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/21/business/global/21bp.html?_r=1&hpw

New York Times - JULIA WERDIGIER - May 20, 2011

Moex, a Tokyo-based commodity trading and financing company, and subsidiary of Mitsui, has agreed to pay $1.1 billion for the BP Macondo oil spill. The payment is about half of a total $2.1 billion BP had sought from Moex in monthly invoices for reimbursement of costs, including interest, according to Mitsui of Japan, which owns Moex.

BP agreed to indemnify Moex for claims for compensation arising from the accident, excluding civil, criminal or administrative fines and penalties.

lot of lies

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“Serial denials are a tactic of the nuclear scientists.”

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article2035900.ece

Mumbai, May 21, 2011

The former Chief Justice of the Delhi High Court, A.P. Shah, on Friday criticised the Atomic Energy Regulatory Board (AERB), the Department of Atomic Energy (DAE) and the Nuclear Power Corporation of India (NPCIL) for their “half-hearted approach” to the ongoing public hearing on the safety, viability and cost efficiency of nuclear energy. Mr. Shah is heading a ‘People's Tribunal' along with former Justice S.D. Pandit, which is conducting a non-governmental inquiry into the Jaitapur project.

A written submission from the AERB, Mr. Shah said, failed to address many points raised by civil society. “There is no reply to many points raised by the objectors and civil society. Secondly, I don't find any research carried out by them on the effect of radiation on surrounding areas. I don't think they are really prepared to revisit and reinvestigate,” he said.

The AERB said that it “has been independent in exercising its decision making powers in matters of regulation and safety. However, activists and experts contested this. “The AERB reports to the Atomic Energy Commission whose chairman is the secretary of the Department of Atomic Energy,” said Suvrat Raju.

Social analyst and activist Praful Bidwai said in his deposition: “Serial denials are a tactic of the nuclear scientists. There are lot of lies that the nuclear scientists have spoken about nuclear energy”.

Good Idea

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This is an unusually intelligent nuclear policy statement, for any government.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article2040089.ece

Kolkata, May 22, 2011

Secretary to the Department of Atomic Energy and chairman Atomic Energy Commission Srikumar Banerjee told PTI,

“We are not trusting the safety reviews done by the vendors. The licensing and safety reviews for the Jaitapur reactors will be done by our own nuclear regulators.”

Engineers debate nuclear reactor safety

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If you wish to review a 'snapshot' of the engineering debate regarding nuclear power, this is a good reference.

http://ieeessit.org/newsletter/TS4-13-76.pdf

Scorn for ‘Flyjin’ Foreigners Who Fled

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/globalbusiness/8466207/Rebuilding-Jap...

“You are the first foreigners I have seen in my bar in a month,” said Hidetsugo Ueno, the bartender at High Five Bar in Ginza. Skittish members of the financial community were the first to empty. The sudden flight has dismayed the Japanese. “Of course this means that in the future, when a company has a choice between hiring a Japanese and a foreigner they will not hire the foreigner.”

“For senior people in big companies, I think they had a responsibility to their Japanese staff to stay. “I think this has reinforced the impression amongst Japanese that a lot of foreigners only look at Japan as a place to work for a few years. “They’re not really interested in the society or the country. This isn’t their real home. These disasters have really just shown how true that is.”

“No-one else left our company and I think that was the right thing to do; as if four or five senior executives had suddenly decided to jump ship then it would of course caused great resentment. There are a lot of executives and companies in Japan today who are facing a backlash against them. The feeling is they have lost credibility with their local employees because they left and I think that will cause longer-term problems.”

The GE employees have returned home

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Employees of a consortium of General Electric and Hitachi were in the reactor building at the time of the quake, according to company and government sources. The GE employees have returned home, though some Hitachi employees are continuing to offer assistance to Tokyo Electric.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-japan-quake-wrapup-2...

U.S. nuclear officials suspect Japanese plant has a dire breach

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http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/04/08/japan.nuclear.crisis/

Improvisation, frustration mark Japan's nuclear crisis at 4 weeks

General Electric which designed the reactors, and Hitachi, which built most of the plant, are also advising the government and Tokyo Electric. GE chief Jeffrey Immelt flew to Japan to consult with Japanese officials and executives last week, and Tokyo has asked Russian officials about using a Japanese-built ship outfitted as a floating decontamination plant.

But for now, Japan has "no choice" but to continue pouring water into the reactors, Friedlander said.

What is Going on Here?

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http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,752704,00.html

Fumbling Toward Fukushima

By Markus Becker AFP/ Tepco/ JiJi Press 03/23/2011

Just as it had in previous years, Tepco appears to have reported to the Japanese government only those things it was unable to keep secret. It was only when the shell of one of the reactor buildings exploded live on television on March 12 that the world became aware of the true extent of the accident.

As a result, five days after the tsunami, Japanese Prime Minister Naoto Kan himself visited executives at Tepco headquarters and shouted at flabbergasted engineers: "What is going on here?" He reportedly accused the Tepco officials of placing the well-being of their own company above that of the Japanese people.

"It is not a matter of whether Tepco collapses, it is a matter of whether Japan goes wrong," he is reported to have said. Afterwards, Kan named himself the head of a crisis team made up of government and Tepco officials.

By doing so, he may have helped prevent even worse things from happening because the attitude that seems to have permeated Tepco -- namely that the company and its property should be given the greatest priority -- appears to remain in place, even in the face of a nuclear catastrophe. The engineers reportedly considered pumping ocean water mixed with boric acid into the damaged Reactor 1 as early as the morning of March 12 in order to prevent a threatening total core meltdown.

The problem was that the action would have been equivalent to abandoning the reactor altogether because the salt water would have caused damage that could have permanently destroyed the plant. The engineers waited for hours before they finally begin pumping sea water at 8:20 p.m. local time into the reactor.

Banks should PAY compensation and forgive debt

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This statement is quite interesting.

http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/05/90976.html

Bank chiefs unsettled by Edano's remarks over TEPCO

TOKYO, May 13, Kyodo

The heads of major banking groups did not hide their discomfort on Friday at remarks by the government's top spokesman suggesting banks lending to the embattled Tokyo Electric Power Co. should forgive their debt and help the utility pay compensation over the crisis at its Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.

Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano said earlier in the day that the government should not inject any public money into the company to help it handle the huge compensation claims resulting from the radiation leaks at the tsunami-ravaged power plant, unless its creditors offer full support to the utility first.

“Tepco has lost the honorable face”

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The predictably inscrutable politics of Japan are the key to understanding this matter, rather than US sensibilities. A few recent, and somewhat enigmatic, press statements appear to couch a lot of meaning. There is no intent to put too fine a point on these statements ... merely pondering.

Tepco … “has lost the honorable face”

http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/eo20110516a1.html

SENTAKU MAGAZINE Monday, May 16, 2011

The new enervated Tepco

Tepco's corporate structural problem, which led to the Fukushima accidents, surfaced in the spring of 2002 when a whistle-blower revealed that Tepco managers had covered up troubles found at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant and falsified reports to the Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry. Subsequently, similar irregularities were reported at the Fukushima No. 2 plant and the Kashiwazaki-Kariwa plant in Niigata Prefecture. These incidents created so much anger among municipalities and citizens that Tepco was forced to suspend the operation of all its nuclear plants. Katsumata and Shimizu are able executives in normal times but are not of the caliber to exercise crisis leadership.

As Tepco's top executives appear unable to judge which is more important — the frontline (Fukushima No. 1), the Tepco headquarters or the prime minister's headquarters, they are snuggling up to the government. The people in Tepco's top management today have forgotten to pay attention to electricity users and local residents living near power stations. Tepco, which has survived until now through collusion with the government, has lost the honorable face as the leader of the power industry. It is wandering about.

Nuclear Engineering - Explained

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Arnold "Arnie" Gundersen is the chief nuclear engineer of energy consulting company Fairewinds Associates and a former nuclear power industry executive. Arnie has provided an excellent series of technical briefings on the Fukushima nuclear disaster.

http://fairewinds.com/updates

Early and prescient concerns about the GE Mark-1 system failure modes were expressed by GE Engineering managers, Dale G. Bridenbaugh, Richard B. Hubbard & Gregory C. Minor in Testimony Before the Joint Committee on Atomic Energy, February 18, 1976, Washington, DC. Oddly, or perhaps intentionally, this key testimony does not presently appear to be available on the web, nor the rest of the committee proceedings.

Thank you very much for your

Thank you very much for your responses Bill...

2nd message. Another point

2nd message.

Another point about Fukushima.
Today, we all are Fukushima.

whether security measures had worked perfectly, as provided by "theoretical calculations", although there had been a partial core melt due to lack of refrigeration (anyone who had been the cause), it need not have been stored hydrogen in the building. Hydrogen has been released by the chimneys of gas escape into the atmosphere. Evacuation chimneys are the two steel towers, about 100 meters you see in the pictures and are connected to the suppression pool in two of the reactors. Obviously have never thought to use them for the two reactors at the same time, it has not been the case and probably (I have my doubts), this has led to the explosion of reactor 4 building and the destruction of the pool which contained, not only spent fuel, but hot all the fuel they had just removed from the reactor Cuba, as we have been assured. These towers are in all the nuclear plants are designed to rid the atmosphere of small leaks of radioactive gases inside the containment, so that dilution in the air and, at worst, do not affect the concentration of radioactive materials into the atmosphere.
However, General Electric, to keep active plants poorly designed boiling water, after many reports about the potential consequences of an accident, first modified the design and added the so-called Mark I, ie "the bull", is a circular pool or reservoir, located at the base of the reactor and out of contention, with the mission to collect water that may exit the reactor in case of accidents and avoid having a blast. Water, radioactive, would be stored there. But a new danger existed in that the pressure in the torus would increase to blow it or tear (which is precisely one of the things that happened in Fukushima, as TEPCO own images at the beginning of everything).
Then they decided to add an element of passive safety, connect the tank is circular (the suppression pool), a pipeline, if the pressure in the torus increase dangerously, in turn ease the pressure, taking the steam radioactive water and other gases to the outside, but, after all, avoiding cracks or breaks in the reactor vessel, as technicians could handle the flow of the pipe and send it to the fire escape. In short, this means that all this has stopped working good, BUT NOT BY THE TSUNAMI, but rather because the quake crippled the entire system physically, for being a passive system should not depend on electricity. It is clear that "the bull" broke, by the first explosion that occurs in these cases, the so-called "steam explosion", and the hydrogen was released into the building and, as seen in the images of the explosion of reactor 3 , the containment in the form of light bulb, this event must be destroyed.
It is also true that all the calculations of how these security systems are purely theoretical, because no one had ever faced a real accident or had carried out an experiment of this scale.

You are correct. Now how

You are correct.

Now how do we boycott GE or get the info out now that they have bought Comcast? Yet this is the only way to stop them - stop doing commerce with anything that GE owns or sells.

BTW, it isn't just GE. Corporations own every part of our country. It's Fascism by definition... and you know fascist corporations care not one iota for anything but their bottom line, power and greed. Not any living thing, but themselves and their precious money. Certainly not the environment...or our children.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?

SILENCE IS CONSENT

Thank you for your response about the political point of view...
I think we are here in a forum with independient engineers...
Engineers here no depending of GE.
I would like to got any technical comment of some engineers or I´ll understand:
-SILENCE IS CONSENT.

These aging, corroded,

These aging, corroded, always defective GE Mark-1 designs are being strained 20% beyond their nameplate power ratings with weapons grade plutonium fuel. They are all being licensed for a 50% extension beyond their nominal design life of 40 years. The Vermont Yankee reactor was issued a 20 year life extension with MOX fuel power up-rating, on March 12, 2011. This NRC relicensing occurred the day after the tsunami, as the Fukushima reactors were literally melting down.

Booom! Excuseme.... I wanted

Booom!

Excuseme.... I wanted to say:
up!

any comment?

I assume that enginners of

I assume that enginners of Berkeley are agree with the 2 initial messages.

SILENCE GIVES CONSENT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?

These aging, corroded,

These aging, corroded, always defective GE Mark-1 designs are being strained 20% beyond their nameplate power ratings with weapons grade plutonium fuel. They are all being licensed for a 50% extension beyond their nominal design life of 40 years. The Vermont Yankee reactor was issued a 20 year life extension with MOX fuel power up-rating, on March 12, 2011. This NRC relicensing occurred the day after the tsunami, as the Fukushima reactors were literally melting down. The world, you see, is GE’s oyster.

General Electric, to keep

General Electric, to keep active plants poorly designed boiling water, after many reports about the potential consequences of an accident, first modified the design and added the so-called Mark I, ie "the bull", is a circular pool or reservoir, located at the base of the reactor and out of contention, with the mission to collect water that may exit the reactor in case of accidents and avoid having a blast. Water, radioactive, would be stored there. But a new danger existed in that the pressure in the torus would increase to blow it or tear