[R. Cromack] Radiation levels increasing at Fukushima Dai-ichi?
Like everyone else, I've cheered Berkeley's recent results, indicating that the air levels of I-131 have, fully nine weeks following the most significant aerial releases of the ongoing nuclear event at Fukushima I, dropped below their minimum reliable detectability threshhold, as well as other significant decreases in cesium-137 and -134 in our air, precipitation and some other, including food chain, media. It is clear that airborne contamination reaching North America from Japan is at a low since monitoring of this crisis began, and without significant new nuclear events and releases into the atmosphere from Fukushima Dai-ichi, it seems likely that this welcome trend will continue until our general environment is largely purged of routinely detectible, reliable levels of radionuclides.
However, I happened to do a little digging into JAIF's (the Japanese Atomic Industrial Forum) daily releases (found here: http://www.jaif.or.jp/english/), and discovered something disturbing: After many weeks of pretty reliable, predictable lowering of monitored radiation levels at three plant locations, we now appear to have reached a plateau, and in the last week, in fact are seeing a steady RISE in monitored radiation levels at at least one of the three more or less "permanent" monitors at Fukushima I.
Here is my quick-and-dirty review of the ten most recent "Reactor Status and Major Events Updates" from JAIF, from latest to oldest:
Report #133, published 1200, 5/17
South Side of Plant Office Bldg.: 396 ?Sv/h (sample of 0000, 5/16)
West Gate of Plant: 15?Sv/h (sample of 0000, 5/16)
Main Gate of Plant: 43?Sv/h (sample of 1130, 5/12)
Report #132, published 1200, 5/17
South Side of Plant Office Bldg.: 391 ?Sv/h (sample of 2100, 5/15)
West Gate of Plant: 15?Sv/h (sample of 2100, 5/15)
Main Gate of Plant: 43?Sv/h (sample of 1130, 5/12)
Report #131, published 1200, 5/15
South Side of Plant Office Bldg.: 392 ?Sv/h (sample of 0900, 5/15)
West Gate of Plant: 16?Sv/h (sample of 0900, 5/15)
Main Gate of Plant: 43?Sv/h (sample of 1130, 5/12)
Report #130, published 1200, 5/14
South Side of Plant Office Bldg.: 385 ?Sv/h (sample of 2100, 5/13)
West Gate of Plant: 16?Sv/h (sample of 2100, 5/13)
Main Gate of Plant: 43?Sv/h (sample of 1130, 5/12)
Report #129, published 1200, 5/13
South Side of Plant Office Bldg.: 383 ?Sv/h (sample of 2100, 5/12)
West Gate of Plant: 15?Sv/h (sample of 2100, 5/12)
Main Gate of Plant: 43?Sv/h (sample of 1130, 5/12)
Report #128, published 1200, 5/12
South Side of Plant Office Bldg.: 399 ?Sv/h (sample of 0900, 5/12)
West Gate of Plant: 16?Sv/h (sample of 0900, 5/12)
Main Gate of Plant: 43?Sv/h (sample of 0900, 5/12)
Report #127, published 1200, 5/11
South Side of Plant Office Bldg.: 404 ?Sv/h (sample of 0900, 5/11)
West Gate of Plant: 16?Sv/h (sample of 0900, 5/11)
Main Gate of Plant: 43?Sv/h (sample of 0900, 5/11)
Report #126, published 1200, 5/10
South Side of Plant Office Bldg.: 402 ?Sv/h (sample of 0900, 5/10)
West Gate of Plant: 16?Sv/h (sample of 0900, 5/10)
Main Gate of Plant: 42?Sv/h (sample of 0900, 5/10)
Report #125, published 1200, 5/9
South Side of Plant Office Bldg.: 408 ?Sv/h (sample of 0900, 5/9)
West Gate of Plant: 17?Sv/h (sample of 0900, 5/9)
Main Gate of Plant: 44?Sv/h (sample of 0900, 5/9)
Report #124, published 1200, 5/8
South Side of Plant Office Bldg.: 408 ?Sv/h (sample of 0900, 5/7)
West Gate of Plant: 17?Sv/h (sample of 0900, 5/7)
Main Gate of Plant: 45?Sv/h (sample of 0900, 5/7)
...To summarize:
At the South Side of the Fukushima I Plant Office Building, since the inception of the crisis traditionally the highest consistently monitored and reported location, we saw an "event low" reading of 383 ?Sv/h from the sample tested late on May 12, and since then have seen that station's results rise 13 ?Sv/h, or about 1.5%. (There was a slight "dip" on 5/15, between the morning and late-evening samples.)
At the West Gate of the Fukushima I Plant, since consistent reporting began traditionally the lowest monitored location, we also saw an "event low" reading of 15 ?Sv/h from the sample tested late on May 12, and since then have seen that station's results fluctuate between 15 and 16 ?Sv/h. The most recent report indicates a reading of 15 ?Sv/h, matching that station's "minimum detection to date".
At the Fukushima I Plant's Main Gate, we saw an "event low" reading of 42?Sv/h from that station's sample tested in the morning of May 10. Since then results have continuously remained at 43 ?Sv/h, slightly higher than its "minimum detection to date".
I would also like to point out that all this information is coming to JAIF from TEPCO, that most of JAIF's daily "Reactor Status and Major Events Updates" are based on ESTIMATIONS of conditions at the plant instead of "hard" data, and that since 11:30 in the morning on May 12 -- when its results "bounced" upwards slightly from its to-date low -- NO additional reporting of the conditions at the Fukushima I Main Gate radiation monitor has been disclosed publicly or to JAIF.
Now, look, I'm not trying to find the black lining in the silver (not some other exotic material) cloud, and neither am I promoting any kind of conspiracy theory or anything. I'm just trying to keep up a nominal effort of "due diligence", here, and also forewarning everyone that, since there's been an ever-so-slight uptick in monitored radiation at at least one location at Fuke I, we MIGHT see some commensurate, hopefully brief and scarcely noticeable, rise in OUR air monitoring results, say, within the next five days. (Then again, the massive dilutive power of the entirety of the Pacific Ocean may completely mask this -- hopefully -- anomalous "blip".) My purpose is also to draw attention to the sudden, and somewhat startling, lack of reporting from the Main Gate; to wonder aloud why NO ONE in the media seems to have picked up on the fact that radiation levels have been rising at at least one of the plant's monitors for four days; and to ask better-educated and -informed people than I about whether the apparent "plateauing" and rise in radiation levels at Fuke is related to what's going on in Reactor 3, the continuing deposition of radiation-laced water everywhere in the plant's substructures, their efforts to keep radioactive material on-site by use of that green hardening agent, the general situation, or, as Monty Python used to say, "something completely different". Attempting to be forewarned is never a waste of time, as this ongoing crisis is continuing to make clear to me.
Anyway. Thanks, and I'll be talking to you all again soon. I will be interested to hear if anyone comes up with an explanation for this.
Oh, one last observation: The friggin' media EVERYWHERE is friggin' USELESS. Fourth estate, my ass.
Rick Cromack.
Allen, Texas


Just a quick note to follow up...
...Real fast, I just checked EPA's RadNet monitoring site for Dallas, and then also for Fort Worth, and noticed that the last 48 hours have seen some of the highest Gross Gamma and Beta Count Rates since the Fukushima disaster began impacting the U.S., on or about March 23. I have observed upticks in the Austin and San Antonio measurements also, though not as pronounced. Was I "on" to something... or is this some strange coincidence, do you think? Remember also the recent spike in seawater contamination near the plant, too.
...Either way, I think I'll keep a close eye on the published on-siye radiation data... For the moment, anyway. And I'll be keeping an eye out for the next couple or three air monitoring samples, too. ...Just in case.
Rick Cromack.
Allen, Texas
Following up: Radiation Levels Still Elevated at Plant
The two latest JAIF reports provide the following data:
Report #135, published 1200, 5/19
South Side of Plant Office Bldg.: 389 ?Sv/h (sample of 0900, 5/19)
West Gate of Plant: 16?Sv/h (sample of 0900, 5/19)
Main Gate of Plant: 43?Sv/h (sample of 0900, 5/19)
Report #134, published 1200, 5/18
South Side of Plant Office Bldg.: 396 ?Sv/h (sample of 0000, 5/16)
West Gate of Plant: 15?Sv/h (sample of 0000, 5/16)
Main Gate of Plant: 43?Sv/h (sample of 1130, 5/12)
...So: The South Side of Plant Office Building location has, over the past two days, "given back" about half its rise over the prior four days... The West Gate location has ticked back up to 16?Sv per hour... And the Main Gate radiation level remains constant.
I think we've plateaued, folks. This may be as low as it goes for awhile. A LONG while, potentially.
Rick Cromack.
Allen, Texas
It would be interesting to
It would be interesting to hear if BRAWM think that these increases are large enough to affect what we are seeing over here?
Many thanks.
Hey Rick! Please read my comment at the end of this thread and..
respond if you are inspired to...
I was afraid that because it was the end of this thread you might not happen to see it...
I miss a lot if stuff when it drops off page one.
Anyway, it is a response to you and a summary of my current perspective (except to say I am SO glad the rain now seems pretty clean! and hopefully the latest rain is too! meaning the plumes have relatively ceased washing out on us and will be negligible in the air meaning the crops will get washed and further dilute the radiocesium etc in the plants).
anyway - end of this thread is my response to your kind words ...
Oy - you beat me to it
never mind
heh
LOL! Jinx, you owe me a Coke, Bill! [nt]
Rick Cromack.
Allen, Texas
A quick correction...
...Don't know how I managed to do this (for once, perhaps, my standard excuse of "being tired" when I make mistakes, is totally unsupportable -- I'm well rested and alert, just stupid, apparently), but I under-estimated the change in radiation levels at the South Side of the Fukushima I plant's monitoring station. Instead of a 1.5% increase over the last four days for which data is available, the rise is, in fact, 3.3%. Still, that's not too great... But it bears watching, I think, and I'd sure like some answwers, or, at least, theories.
Rick Cromack.
Allen, Texas
Rick, you can check the same
Rick, you can check the same data directly on Tepco's website:
http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushima-np/f1/index-e.html
There is a graph, but also PDFs with the data including wind direction and stuff like that.
Duly noted, thanks, Anonymous...
...I elected not to reference the TEPCO site directly in my post, for a couple of reasons: First, what with the track record of incomplete, heavily edited, inaccurate and more or less fanciful information TEPCO's been trafficking in throuhout this ongoing nuclear event, I decided that basing my entire post and premise on their published reports, alone, would be to invite suspicion, disbelief and dismissal of the points I was trying to make. Second, given the apparent recent suspension of data from the South Side monitoring station, I considered that I'd only be fanning the flames of conspiracy, perhaps not intentionally but successfully regardless, by making TOO close an asspciation with TEPCO. ...And, finally, as a consumer of information since the onset of this crisis, I have found, personally, that the further away the source of ANY information is from TEPCO itself, the more likely I am to accept it... Amlm,d although JAIF is clearly receiving their data from TEPCO, the fact that they (JAIF) choose to re-publish it under their organization's own masthead and good name, to me lends it more legitimacy and inspires slightly more confidence than if it had come merely, and exclusively, from TEPCO
Thanks for providing that information, and for holding me accountable!
Rock Cromack.
Allen, Texas
Tepco is the only source of
Tepco is the only source of information on the situation at the plant, the rest of the organizations just republish their data. It would be insane to trust Tepco, but I don't think they have been caught doctoring the data yet. Their analyses of that data, however, have been proved wrong.
Agreed on all counts, Anonymous. [nt]
Rick Cromack.
Allen, Texas
Any idea why they stop at <300,000 Bq/M^2?
What's so magical about 300,000 Bq/M^2 for surface depostion? Seems like
an extremely high level to cut off at.
http://www.mext.go.jp/component/english/__icsFiles/afieldfile/2011/05/10...
Maybe it's their evacuation
Maybe it's their evacuation limit and reporting above that has little value since no one can be there anyway.
That's actually their *lower* limit
So, I'm wondering why they don't report lower than that? Ground
deposition of 300,000 Bq/M^2 for just two of the isotopes seems
very high. I was hoping that they were actually using commas as
decimal points. But, it doesn't look like it. It looks like their
upper range is 3,000,000-30,000,000 Bq/M^2. The dark blue or lowest
range is <300,000
It may just be more
It may just be more convenient to graph the results that way. As in 0-300,000 as the lower bound.
So we are not suppose to worry about anything below that level?
300,000 Bq/m^2 still seems like a very high level to be treated as if
it's low level contaminatin below which isn't deserving of further
measurement.
You missed your calling -
You missed your calling - you should be an investigative journalist. You provide more value to us than the entirety of the American media combined.
What you are pointing out is the very reason why it makes no sense for EPA and FDA to not be thoroughly testing air, water and food. The testing is the only way we can know what we are being exposed to (and while BRAWM's work is fantastic, it's isolated and definitely not comprehensive), especially since we have to rely on TEPCO's data and we know that isn't very reliable.
What Angela said.
What Angela said.
Thanks, guys. I think you're a bit of all right, too! [nt]
Rick Cromack.
Allen, Texas
where are you at my man, i
where are you at my man, i missed you.
LOL! Oh, I doubt that very much... But thanks.
...Been working, spending time with the family. Been keeping up with things but I spend a lot less time online these days, and I haven't had much to contribute other than continued thanks to BRAWM / UCBNE, and, besides, most of what I WOULD be saying or asking, has been contributed by someone or other, so I thought I'd shut up until I had something genuinely "original" and important, or insightful, or whatever, to say. Even I get tired of hearing the sound of my own voice, you know.
Anyway, I have to extend some real admiration to HotCaviar, and Bill, and several other folks who have continued the "independent research", education, and dialogue here -- you guys are the best, and I love reading your thoughts and insights.
Saw the "reconvening" post -- I need a little while to consider everything. Generally, I'll say this:
> I am now convinced that Reactor 1 experienced a significant meltdown, and that Reactors 2 and 3 are probably somewhere in the process of substantially slower meltdowns, but that may have been (temporarily?) arrested by TEPCO's efforts to cool those cores.
> I am now convinced that the aerial component of this ongoing event is far and away the least significant and impactful, and I am shocked by the lack of concern this (U.S.) Government has for what may be occurring in the Pacific Ocean.
> I think the Reactor 4 Spent Fuel Pool is probably fairly secure overall, though, clearly, it's leaking water at some place or other and needs to be reinforced, if possible.
> Although TEPCO seems to have kept its game face on, I still think the management of that company is worse than useless and I am skeptical about every single damn thing they say.
> I still have no idea what the end game looks like.
None of that's very profound, probably, or insightful. I continue to watch, and wait, and worry, although I think it's good news that we're nearly ten weeks into this and we're all still here. I have no plans to relocate to the Southern Hemisphere, and even if I had the means to do so, I wouldn't. We're experiencing a significant nuclear event, and there will be ramifications, most especially to the people of Japan, but it's not the end of the world, nor civilization. I have some confidence in that pronouncement.
I haven't figured out yet where I am regarding nuclear power. One thing I'll say for certain: We underestimated the threats to nuclear plants, and overestimated our abilities to overcome, manage and mitigate those threats, big-time. I think that before moving forward, there needs to be a serious discussion about cost/risk-benefit and whether the species even has the ability to deal with certain, hopefully rare, but demonstrably extant possibilities.
That is all. Be well, everyone, and I will continue to read, and perhaps even contribute in some small fashion to, the amazing discussions you all are having, here. Thanks for keeping the fire lit, guys.
Rick Cromack.
Allen, Texas
Fukushima Monitors show spike B4 ceasing transmission
It's a good thing that some of us are finally able to be distracted from this "Extinction Event" since it's useless to try to fight the NWO Elite's timely "accident" during it's mission to reduce human population levels by 25%. Some of us are unable to accept what WILL become of our children & grandchildren(if the latter's even possible due to sterilization & chromosome damage that has only just begun during TEPCO's "Roadmap To HELL"...In the meantime "Barry" & whoever's allowed on the ballot as his opponent will be sure to get equally huge campaign contributions from GE,Exelion,etc. due to their willingness to let the public eat nuclear sh_t & die. Excuse the pun with racist overtones re; the following-but,"nobody even noticed Barry's brown(er) nose following his recent announcement to provide 30 billion in loan guarantees for the building of more nuclear power plants. A quick glance at the holdings,affiliations, and vested interests of the nuke industry has with the media & even educational institutions & private monitoring groups have been "gagged" by coeporate "fixers" who concocted much more detailed & effective plans long ago to conceal their poisoning for profit-but not quite as much energy into "fixing" their mistakes or countermeasures to protect the public they spend so much effort propagating lies to. I don't know or care about any punitive measures that could result from my answers to the surveys that pop-up during every visit to the useless EPA RadNet website-but I didn't hold back the truth or water down my vocabulary when describing exactly what I think about them or their handling of the issue either & I don't regret it-even if I've been tagged as a "subversive" & investigated as such! It seems the only thing we are actually able to do about it is to VOTE right this time,if we live that long & hope that someone with leadership qualities & genuine concern for the people over all else avails themselves to us that has the mettle to go up against the human feces who run the show behind the scenes. That mold seems to have been broken & discarded long ago. That said-take care~Good Luck~&God Bless Us All!!!
Thanks for the kind words, Rick...and
I, like you, continue to read the forums and check for updates several times a day just to TRY to be reassured (I am, but just a little). I am no longer worried about going out in the rain and am about to consider buying milk again in a few weeks or month (once the BRAWM tests are consistent and of sufficient quantity for me to feel the milk and grass is probably not anywhere near as contaminated as it was).
BUT
the sad fact is that between the continuing potential for another serious event in Japan (a new explosion, for example, or another meltdown) AND the reports of new and even potentially increasing amounts of radiocesium in the food chain (strawberries,soil, grass and kale, i think) and continuing small amounts in milk of the radiocesium, I am still VERY wary of relaxing my guard or vigilance more than just a little.
I have in the past done work with the Radiation and Public Health Project and have, as a result, been especially concerned with the ONGOING contamination from commercial nuclear operations here in the United States and across the globe. I hear "ads" on NPR where the nuclear industry claims their plants are "emission-free" which is a baldfaced lie. The carbon footprint for nukes is HUGE given the waste problem and long term disposal issues and guarding the plants etc But even more so the nuke plants EMIT radiation through their venting systems and effluents into our waters. On top of that they are leaky and even spent fuel pools are leaking into bodies of water.
One of the primary killers and cancer and mutagens is Strontium 90 and the extensive tests and studies (peer-reviewed) published by members of the Radiaqtion and Public Health Project make it clear that we have an ONGOING disaster right here in the United States with more than 100 facilites (many with multiple reactors just like Fukushima and with similar designs and spent fuel pools) which are daily contimanting us all more and more AND they run the risk of melting down due to a major disaster or even an attack.
So I have been, like you, not being wquite as "noisy" on this board - but trying to stay on the watch tower and checking reports as they come in.
This is an intergenerational situation which will have ramifications and consequences (some of them terrible and sad) for many many generations (especially due to contamination and mutations in our gene pools and dna)especially death and illness and disability.
ONE problem with the radioiodine is the problem of HYPOTHYROID disorder which is a malgnant disabling of our endocrine systems, harmful to our immune systems and causes depression, chronic fatigue, symptoms of bipolar disorder and mania, rashes, sore throats etc etc etc.
Cesium and strontium 90 too mutate virsues and bacteria and accelerate mutations which we cannot adapt to - so that as our immune systems are dysfinctional, we get new disease pandemics (this was predicted by Andrei Sakharov, father of the Soviet H Bomb, in the 1950's) which we cannot evolutionarily adapt to. Things like the Norwalk (Cruise-ship) virus, Lyme disease, SARS, Bird flu, Legionnaire's disease, equine encephalitis, etc may ALL be related to our global radionuclide contaminant load.
SO, I appreciate your kind words, Rick and all your hard work.
But the struggle to get truth out, to inform people, and to try to close these impossibly and unreasonably deadly and dangerous nulcear plants and operations is an ongoing one which, especially due to BRAWM's ceasless efforts, MAY be easier because with accurate and open data we will all get the real truth about such contamination and the epidemiologists and doctors and reseacrhers and scientists can KEEP doing the critical job of saving humanity from these plagues and the plague of greed and lust for filthy lucre which motivates the nuclear power and weapons industry - the most greedy, dangerous and powerful industry in the known history of the earth and the universe!
Keep the faith. Faith will move mountains, as they say.
But bring a shovel.
(Not to mention a LOT of Bullshyte has to be shovlled before we really can move these mountains. And NONE of us can do it alone!)
To Bill:
Bill, you're quite welcome, and I REALLY appreciate all the continuing efforts that you and several others here are making to not only inform yourselves and make responsible decisions for you and your own families, but to share the information, questions, and opinions you have assembled with the wider world of BRAWM / UCBNE Forum posters and readers. A real community has taken root, here, and as I've said before, it's a truly remarkable thing, a demonstrably "democratic" association of concerned citizens uniting against the overwhelming silence, ignorance and mis- or disinformation that dominates the media and Internet landscape with regards to this ongoing nuclear event.
You made quite a few points in your post, and unfortunately I won't be able to address them all at this time. I do want to say a couple things, however, while your good words are fresh in my mind.
I, myself, started drinking milk and consuming milk products again a few weeks ago -- although there has been a real lack of milk testing here in North Texas, with just the results of just the two samples (apparently, only testing for I-131) published by the EPA, the fact that they were both "non-detect"s, I suppose, emboldened me -- plus, I was feeling pretty deprived after six weeks or so. I am still avoiding spinach and other large-leafed vegetables when possible, am drinking filtered and bottled water when available, and have refused to eat any strawberries since Berkeley's first results as far as that product goes became available.
I have abandoned my once-daily routine of drinking a double shot of fresh wheatgrass from Jamba Juice, which I've long held to as a hedge against cancer. I don't know when I might start back up again. Other than that, my diet is largely back to normal, although I continue to avoid crab, salmon, and tuna. I have no plans to resume eating those foods, frankly, ever.
However, like you, I am largely reassured. Also like you, I am refusing to let my guard down.
As I understand things, at this point the likelihood of re-criticality is somewhat slim, owing as much to TEPCO's recently (nominally) successful efforts to keep the reactor cores and spent fuel pools cooled, as the likelihood that a SIGNIFICANT fraction of Reactor 1, 2, and 3's POTENTIAL radioactive output, HAS ALREADY BEEN SPENT / RELEASED INTO THE GENERAL ENVIRONMENT. This is at best a Pyrrhic victory -- we're in less danger of a meltdown now, because much of what COULD melt down, already HAS. The flip side to this is that a simply enormous amount of radiation is now out in the world, free to move and migrate and contaminate and kill at its own speed. I believe that as much as 95% of that radioactivity is in the Pacific Ocean at this moment, though I admit I have no figures to back up that assertion.
I have been pretty encouraged by the videos of the Reactor 4 Spent Fuel Pool, and by recent hypotheses that much of that area's radionuclides may have, in effect, been transported into that area from an adjoining reactor's casualty. However, I remain deeply concerned about Reactor 3, especially, and I wonder why there isn't more media coverage and honest discussion about that reactor's recent temperature variability.
I don't know what to make of the online assertions that Reactor 4's superstructure is leaning and may be on the verge of collapse. I'm inclined to think that this is (perhaps well-intentioned) paranoia; I simply cannot believe that TEPCO and all the recovery personnel on-site would simply stand by and watch without comment as an entire reactor building slumped slowly into ruin. However, the list of "impossibilities" grows shorter, I find, with every passing week as it becomes clear that there is simply no level of dishonesty, misinformation or outright duplicity and deception TEPCO's governing personnel will fail to stoop to.
I don't know what to make of all the recent revelations and theories concerning our own nuclear industry's long-standing environmental challenges. I am happy to admit that I have spent my entire life totally oblivious to what now appears obvious. Ignorance was, indeed, bliss. However I will just say this for the moment: ANY "absolutes" this side of Heaven are the direct progeny of at least one of three things: Stupidity, deception or madness. So-called "safety records" of highly challenging and potentially disastrous technologies very much included, and we are fools to take them at their word. We are, as a species, dancing on the edge of a cliff with nuclear power; and I have not forgotten that the famed Wallendas, expert athletes and phenomenally experienced though they were, were ultimately unsuccessful in their efforts to defy the laws of physics and the limitations of their own bodies.
Your "watchtower" analogy is more apropos than you might realize; "All Along the Watchtower" happens to be one of my very favorite songs, and I've actually been listening to it quite a bit, lately. Do you know the words?
"There must be some kind of way out of here," /
Said the Joker to the Thief; /
"There's too much confusion -- /
I can't get no relief!"
Businessmen, they drink my wine, /
Plowmen, dig my earth; /
(But) None of them along the line /
Know what any of it is worth.
"No reason to get excited," /
The Thief kindly spoke; /
"There are many here among us /
Who feel that life is but a joke!" /
But you and I, we've been through that, /
And that is not our fate -- /
So let us not talk falsely, now: /
The hour is getting late.
All along the watchtower, /
Princes kept the view, /
While all the women came and went; /
Barefoot servants, too -- /
Outside in the cold distance, /
A wildcat did growl -- /
Two riders were approaching, /
And wind began to howl.
"Two riders were approaching," indeed, my friend. And I, like you, am manning the battlements, listening to the rising wind.
Speaking honestly, then, I have no idea -- zero -- what the "ramifications" you allude to will be. It SEEMS as if there should be some, certainly, for Japan, and I would imagine here as well. But the BRAWM / UCBNE folks, and many many others besides, have repeatedly insisted that although STATISTICALLY there will be increased probabilities of long-term disease for North American populations, such deviations from "normal" incidences of cancer and other syndromes are so minute as to pose virtually no discernible threat to us, even in the aggregate.
This -- BRAWM / UCBNE's position -- has been, frankly, a hard opinion for me to swallow, but I must admit that I have nothing save some barely understood facts and figures, the long-held indictments and alleged prophecies of a host of perennial doomsayers, my own limited notions of science, statistics and sense, and a vague, scarcely definable disquiet, to stand against it. The cold, hard, occasionally difficult truth is that an overwhelming majority of ACTUAL experts in a variety of scientific disciplines and public-health fields agrees that the threat of Fukushima to populations in the northern hemisphere OUTSIDE the immediately affected area in north central Japan are minimal to negligible at most, and fantastic to imaginary at least, with most lettered experts increasingly lining up in the "fantastic to imaginary" category. We who continue to stress about increasingly nominal exposures and dosages and their associate risks are very much in the minority. There can be only two explanations: Either THEY'RE right, or WE are. Personally I feel better assuming that they are, because if I, a liberal-arts major who took two and a half years to pass high school Algebra II and never made higher than a C in a college-level science course, know better than nuclear engineers, radiological medical professionals, industry experts, and governing and regulatory agencies, then we're in more trouble as a species than merely having three nuclear reactors melt down in a single year and at a single location. We're a lot of f---ing idiots, frankly, and we're living out Mike Judge's "Idiocracy" as we speak, if THAT's the case.
...But am I convinced? No. Not by a long shot; it is hard to be convinced by any argument that fails to provide anything in the manner of correlating data or comprehensible explanation. And with the deafening silence of virtually EVERYBODY supposedly "in the know", reassurances and calming statements and platitudes have had, as far as I'm concerned, the opposite effect entirely -- It's like taking your car, which is rattling and shimmying and puffing smoke, back to the dealership and being told, "Oh, yeah, that's normal" and getting no explanation whatsoever. Matter of fact, it's EXACTLY like that.
In all this, the ONE bastion of concern, diligence, transparency, communication, and respect of the general public has been the BRAWM team. But, you already know this. I hope I don't offend them when I say, however, that it's not enough. They are, as I have said before, what every industry, every company, every agency, every regulatory body, every advocacy group, every educational or research institution, every government, SHOULD be -- and aren't. It's not that the folks from the University of California - Berkeley Department of Nuclear Engineering are so far removed from the standards we ought to expect of them -- it's that no one else is making even the slightest effort to uphold those standards. They are a rarity -- a singularity -- because they're doing what they ought to be doing -- and no one else is.
That's pathetic, folks. In all the world, of all the nations, out of all the people with knowledge and experience and power and responsibility, it's this single, lonely college that alone gives a damn. We should be ashamed, as a nation, as a society, as a species.... And ANGRY. I certainly am.
"Faith will move mountains... But bring a shovel anyway." That's my new motto, my friend. I just wish I could put the shovel to work immediately, instead of spending so much time and effort simply trying to move the bulls---.
Keep doing what you're doing. Everyone reading this, do the same. There are mountains to move, yet... And we are the people who WILL move 'em. Don't be intimidated by that; be determined, and resolute, and proud, and let's get 'er done.
Rick Cromack.
Allen, Texas
Rick, I think you are a
Rick, I think you are a fantastic writer, and I resonate with many of your sentiments! I have truly appreciated your perspective and reason. I just wanted to point out that you can still have your wheatgrass...I grow my own at home and juice it here. All you have to do is buy wheatberries and a sprouting tray, and voila! Saves time, money, and you know it is clean...
A little off topic, I know... :)
Thank you...
...And I'll consider the wheatgrass-at-home idea. (It's the thought of buying one of those expensive grinders that's stopped me from doing that in the past...)
Re: Going off-topic... I won't tell if you won't. [Grin]
Rick Cromack.
Allen, Texas
ah, but Rick, you're smart
ah, but Rick, you're smart enough to do the math (even if it took you 2 years to get through high school algebra). Grinder + sprouting tray < Jamba Juice Every Day
down the hatch!
:0
LOL!...
...Well, there MIGHT just be another reason why I haven't pulled the trogger on that yet... My wife doesn't want one of those big, ugly, bulky machines cluttering up our kitchen countertop.
...BUT... I have a birthday coming up (the big four-oh!), so... We may just see about that.
Rick Cromack.
Allen, Texas
Add some barley grass to the
Add some barley grass to the mix.
Its late and I need to get some rest (haven't had much since
this all began - even had a Tsunami dream a few days ago as did my son whose a teenager....anyways.
Yeah. It was definitely a reference to Jimi or Dylan - but a subtle one (and not a Jehovah's witness reference). A fave song and an important one.
Listen, I want to say this, Rick.
I really urge you to check out Dr. Helen Caldicott's Facebook page and note that there is a conference coming up soon on health issues related to living near US Nuclear plants.
I became friends with Dr. Ernest Sternglass when I was working as a journalist and interviewed him and he is the the one man from the industry who really understood the dangers (he resigned from Westinghouse and dedicated his life to these issues of damage from "low" level radiation from nuke plants and other exposures.
I HIGHLY recommend you take a look at the radiation and public health Project website and their articles and ESPECIALLY Dr. Sternglass's work there and especially the book "Nuclear Witness, Insiders Speak Out"
He was DIRECTOR of the Apollo Lunar Scientific Station Project for NASA and Westinghouse (which Nixon killed to use the funds for his Southeast Asia invasions), was a protege of Einstein, was a holocaust survivor, AND he was a physicist who INVENTED the radiation-image capturing technology which allowed the images of the first Lunar Landing and man's first walk on the moon to be captured for television on Earth. He is currently in a nursing home.
He wrote one of my FAVORITE popular physics book called "Before the Big Bang" (which can be found at the RPHP website - or at least a link and excerpts). www.radiation.org
He taught me almost all of what I know in depth over more than a decade of friendship.
The nuclear industry was said to have a whole department dedicated just to discrediting him.
In any case, I am still concerned about cesium in the milk (especially for my kids) and many other foods.
I will respond more later but REALLY want you to check out Nuclear Witness and the writings and links, especially for Sternglass, at the RPHP website. It is the most valuable resource I know of and they have been actually testing the bioaccumulation of radionuclides in human bodies (in teeth) and also found stronium 90 levels in Lobsters in Long island Sound in levels HIGHER than Chernobyl from Lobster pots near the effluent pipes at a reactor on the Sound (the lobsters were experiencing a die-off from a shell fungus at the time)
In any case - we should stay on this and these references will bring you up to speed if youy are interested. i would love to discuss this material with you and anyone else here and get BRAWM folks perspective. The RPHP folks ARE scientists, physicists, MDs, epidemiologists who are focussed primarily on studies of radiation bioaccumulating in humans and the health effects of this radiation. They have found that VERY low levels can result in the Petkau effect and sometimes more serious damage to our dna and the body's cells.
Gotta sleep. Work in the morning.
Bill:
By all means, get some sleep, my friend. Fukushima isn't going anywhere, and the world will not stop spinning if you take a little time and invest in yourself, your sanity and your peace of mind via some well-earned rest.
That "Watchtower" reference -- PRICELESS. Hilarious. Well said, good sir.
That dream you described... Weird. However, I've lived too long to place much stock in dreams, much less dream analysis.
I agree that Dylan's lyrics + Jimi's craftsmanship = perfect song. But I gotta say, I LOVE the Indian-derived "Battlestar Galactica" version also.
I have at times been very receptive to Dr. Caldicott's perspectives, and I in no way want to disparage her education, experience and opinions. However, she has increasingly seemed a publicity whore to me (I would use the same phrase if she were a man, btw), and I find her to be consistently strident, imperious, and obnoxious. However... That doesn't mean I think she's wrong. Partisans can be biased and still right. I put that fellow Busby in this same category. And don't get me started on the blogs out there, or EnergyNews, or Alex Jones, who seem to me at this point to be nothing more than cheerleaders for the coming (?) apocalypse.
Unlike others, I have actually grown to admire Arnie Gundersen as this crisis has developed... Although he's been wrong on occasion, I don't think he's been especially out-there and in fact I think his track record is fairly impressive at this point. I think his mistakes are more likely the result of the inherent difficulties in diagnosing what's wrong from a quarter of the globe away, when trying to pick out the few salient pieces of data from an ocean of speculation, hysteria and well-intentioned stupidity, against an uncooperative utility and at sixes and sevens with an uninterested world, than any malicious or willful disinformation, bias or lack of insight. He's all right in my book; but I still hope he's wrong.
The only people I trust in this entire event with total comfort are the folks at Berkeley. Period. If they have a dog in this fight, beyond the sincere desire for evidence, discernment and truth, I sure can't find it, and I've stopped trying. My faith in them has been justified, and I can't ever imagine it changing. I wish the species had six billion more just like 'em. Maybe then I'd think more of humanity.
Not familiar with your friend Dr. Sternglass, but, regardless of what opinion I have of Dr. Caldicott, I will endeavor to seek out their statements in the near future and familiarize myself a little better with their positions and arguments. This is no time to avoid, suppress or discount contrary opinions... We need all the positive input and constructive disagreement we can accommodate at present.
Interesting that you were a journalist -- that was one of my majors, and in fact I tried to "break in" to the business, but gave up after a couple of years and took an easier, better-paying path. Those of you who have complimented me on my abilities do me great honor. I, too, recently have begun to suspect that I abandoned investigative journalism too early, to my regret.
I will check out "Nuclear Witness" -- and I'm sorry to hear your friend is in a nursing home. My own father spent fourteen years in various facilities before finally passing away three years ago.
I don't know what to make of the Petaku effect -- I've done quite a bit of research into that, on the Internet obviously so in a limited, scratching-the-surface fashion, and although I have a healthy skepticism of "fringe" disorders and syndromes, I must say, I'm intrigued. Again, I certainly hope he's wrong, though.
I have work in a few hours also, but I won't let that prevent me from telling you how much I appreciate and am enjoying our dialogue. In this unholy mess, there ARE good things to be found, and enjoyed, and cherished.
Rick Cromack.
Allen, Texas
Gotta sleep. Work in the morning.
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Hey guys! Reading your
Hey guys! Reading your posts feels like chatting with old friends now. Just wanted to let you know we just had our first ultrasound and found out our baby is healthy. I'm always struggling with how to make sense of the data in a way that pertains to our little one and your posts as well as HotCaviars have helped us do that. On another note...we were listening to NPR this morning and they did a short piece about dumping highly radioactive waste at the Hanford facility here in WA. This is incredibly frustrating news considering how much we have recently learned about the mismanagement and ongoing issues at Hanford, not to mention the 53 million gallons of waste already haphazardly stored there. This is a copy/paste from wikipedia regarding the enviromental concerns: "A huge volume of water from the Columbia River was required to dissipate the heat produced by Hanford's nuclear reactors. From 1944 to 1971, pump systems drew cooling water from the river and, after treating this water for use by the reactors, returned it to the river. Before being released back into the river, the used water was held in large tanks known as retention basins for up to six hours. Longer-lived isotopes were not affected by this retention, and several terabecquerels entered the river every day. These releases were kept secret by the federal government.[4] Radiation was later measured downstream as far west as the Washington and Oregon coasts.[43]"
It goes on to say:
"The plutonium separation process also resulted in the release of radioactive isotopes into the air, which were carried by the wind throughout southeastern Washington and into parts of Idaho, Montana, Oregon, and British Columbia.[4] Downwinders were exposed to radionuclides, particularly iodine-131, with the heaviest releases during the period from 1945 to 1951. These radionuclides filtered into the food chain via contaminated fields where dairy cows grazed; hazardous fallout was ingested by communities who consumed the radioactive food and drank the milk. Most of these airborne releases were a part of Hanford's routine operations, while a few of the larger releases occurred in isolated incidents. In 1949, an intentional release known as the "Green Run" released 8,000 curies of iodine-131 over two days.[44] Another source of contaminated food came from Columbia River fish, an impact felt disproportionately by Native American communities who depended on the river for their customary diets.[4] A U.S. government report released in 1992 estimated that 685,000 curies of radioactive iodine-131 had been released into the river and air from the Hanford site between 1944 and 1947.[45]"
Sometimes you read something that just astounds you...the Hanford Site seems like a prime example of how NOT to handle radioactive material. This is an interesting article about "Onkalo". A nuclear waste dump being carved out of solid rock and built to withstand 100,000 years. It's pretty awe inspiring and eerie.
"It's challenging, not just because radioactive material is highly toxic, but because really engaging with the problem forces us to confront unimaginable timescales.
But in Finland they believe they have found a solution, with the world's first permanent nuclear-waste repository -- "Onkalo" -- a huge system of underground tunnels that is being hewn out of solid rock and must last at least 100,000 years."
"It was also important that we found a solution that would require no surveillance or management by future generations."
http://articles.cnn.com/2010-11-12/world/finland.nuclear.waste_1_nuclear...
Alright, time to start the day...best wishes to all!
-Dan
Hey Daniel!
It's nice to see you on! I may have missed any previous posts you have made (been a lot of stressful things going on here, haven't been able to contribute nearly as much as I would wish) but I was recently thinking about you, your significant other and the baby. Glad to hear everything is ok. :o)
Btw, I hope you were not put off by me not responding to your last message. I attempted to but got an "undeliverable" message and I never saw you online again. Please don't think I just decided to ignore you guys.
Rick: Thanks for all the info. Good to see your still going at it. And yes, I am being serious, not sarcastic. :o)
- Jen
Jen and Dan:
Jen: Sarcasm never crossed my mind. Glad to hear you're doing well!
Dan: GREAT news about the tests, my friend. Remember to cherish life! Thinkin' 'bout ya, partner.
Rick Cromack.
Allen, Texas
Jen! Good to hear from you!
Jen! Good to hear from you! I was thinking of you as well...I'm very grateful for our little "community" we have developed here and all of the support that everyone has provided. Rick, keep on carrying the torch friend...I've been admiring the posts by you and Bill from afar because I have so little to contribute but it's always nice to read your assessments. Thank you for the JAIF link, I've scanned through the reports and I have to admit I was pretty surprised by some of what I read...what a massive FUBAR situation. One line that surprised me was "it is assumed radioactive material has escaped the containment vessel". Anyhow...I'll leave you with a line from my favorite writer...
"The truth about the world, he said, is that anything is possible. Had you not seen it all from birth and thereby bled it of its strangeness it would appear to you for what it is, a hat trick in a medicine show, a fevered dream, a trance bepopulate with chimeras having neither analogue nor precedent, an itinerant carnival, a migratory tentshow whose ultimate destination after many a pitch in many a mudded field is unspeakable and calamitous beyond reckoning.
The universe is no narrow thing and the order within it is not constrained by any latitude in its conception to repeat what exists in one part in any other part. Even in this world more things exist without our knowledge than with it and the order in creation which you see is that which you have put there, like a string in a maze, so that you shall not lose your way. For existence has its own order and that no man's mind can compass, that mind itself being but a fact among others."
— Cormac McCarthy