RIU and NILU forecast models have been stopped/ data removed
As of May 2, the RIU (www.eurad.uni-koeln.de) is NO LONGER running its radiation forecast model. NILU still was, and I regularly checked it, especially after the disconcerting April 24-25 forecast for North America's west coast (20-400Bq/m2). Today I checked, and it was REMOVED on May 11. This deeply concerns me and I cannot help wonder why these were removed. And if instructions were received to remove these. And from whom. The very disconcerting part is that these are supposedly independent scientific institutions. Why would they stop making these data available? We need to request answers to this and ask for the monitoring and modeling to continue!! Data collection and availability is so crucial, and it is being ignored (at best) or actively interfered with by governments and industry. Without data, there is no proof for critical questions about very real and valid health concerns.
Unfortunately, this is congruent with reports of Japanese governments calling for censorship of news and other observations and comments on this forum by journalists not being able to get stories on radioactive contamination levels published in the US.
I have encountered the same resistance here in Canada when I tried to draw attention to the need to measure rain water, drinking water, soil, milk, seaweed and seafood from Japan. The data made available by federal govt agencies here (when it was finally available) is summarized, very limited and appears haphazard, i.e., no systematic, country-wide testing. Drinking water sampling results for Vancouver have not been posted publicly since April 11. When I phoned and asked on April 27, I was told the labs are backlogged (that was 16 days later!). But no updates since then. I have not received any response to a request for data from Simon Fraser University, either, where a few water samples were taken initially.
In this situation, we need to have universities like UCB step up to request and/ or collect and Publish this data--Please! Thanks so much for all your work and running this forum, now one of the last remaining sources of information--while Fukushima still struggles with an extremely serious and possibly endless situation of radioactive releases.
1000Bc/m2 over Northern Hemisphere May 10
http://zardoz.nilu.no/~flexpart/fpinteractive/plots/tracer_h_2254.gif
Dark Purple (1000Bq/m2) everywhere.
This is one day before the modeling was stopped.
what altitude
fukushima unv. found more radiation at 8.5 km in atmoshere than at ground care to comment ?
its still here just higher rain will depost it again n again
"The results show that (by accident) the release of radioactive material has spread worldwide. However, because not immediately fall to the ground, it will not affect health. "
According to reports, Watanabe on April 15 to 29 in Fukushima city once a day with balloon observations, measurements had to 20 km altitude from the ground the amount of radiation. Measurement results show that near the surface of the beta-ray is about 134cpm (cpm to units of radiation), radiation decreases as the balloon rises, and 6 km above the surge in the amount of radiation, at 8.2 km above the peak 506cpm. Beta-ray is usually the case is about 80cpm.
Reported that the release of radioactivity from the nuclear material may have been in the atmosphere in the troposphere and stratosphere and the troposphere at the junction, released into the atmosphere a few laps around the Earth.
Rain brings down what is in
Rain brings down what is in the upper altitudes.
WOW! No wonder monitoring
WOW! No wonder monitoring ceased. How about a shot of the bottom hemisphere?
Forecasts have become irrelevant
The discontinuation of the NILU and EURAD simulations has been generating a lot of interest with folks on this forum, and I am trying to keep up with the various threads. But here's the bottom line:
(1) NILU and EURAD were not actually making measurements of the plume, but performing plume forecasts.
(2) The assumptions that went into the forecasts reflected a worst-case scenario. They assumed huge, constant releases from the reactors.
(3) BRAWM is measuring the plume. If any large releases had occurred after late March, we would have been seeing them in our air measurements. We are hardly able to detect anything anymore in the air.
For example, the 4/24-25 plume that you mentioned never actually happened -- please look at our air measurements for proof.
Therefore, the forecasts have become irrelevant to the actual facts. I think both of those groups probably saw little reason to devote their resources to the forecasts any longer. It is not a cover-up; they have just become irrelevant.
For more info about NILU and EURAD, I've made numerous comments throughout the forum, such as "A note on interpreting EURAD and NILU plume forecasts". Bottom line is that neither website ever meant to be taken as seriously as people took them...
Mark [BRAWM Team Member]
Lies coming from American and Canadian trusted Gov. sources
ummm...where to start.
(1)"NILU and EURAD were not actually making measurements of the plume, but performing plume forecasts."In fact their forecasts were based on levels of radiation provided to them from TEPCO and since now we've had an opportunity to watch TEPCO slowly start to release the real levels of radiation in which case you don't need to go to Harvard to figure out that most likely ALL PREVIOUS FORECATS from NILU were actually a low-ball estimate of the real levels of radiation traveling across the Pacific.
(2)" The assumptions that went into the forecasts reflected a worst-case scenario." Is nothing more than lies,cause as we all know these organizations don't do worse case scenarios and then release them to the public, again this shows that the person doesn't know what the heck they're talking about!
"They assumed huge, constant releases from the reactors."guess the releases have been non-stop as TEPCO have admitted.
(3) " If any large releases had occurred after late March, we would have been seeing them in our air measurements "
Once again this person has no clue what they are talking about, you see just because berkley's Geiger's don't pick it up that sure as hell doesn't mean there was no plume released on a certain date!!
folks I really hope you do much more research than listening to the minimizing and often wrong facts and figures given on this website.
I keep updates on my Youtube channel every second day and my info isn't diluted like what you're seeing here, I actually show the websites with all the links so you can poke around then also in order to gather more evidence.
hope to see you soon at http://www.youtube.com/user/connectingdots1
Please read the comments from the orgs
If you are unwilling to at least read the info the actual organizations
put out, please refrain from commenting. Mark has done his part by copying
the actual disclaimers from those orgs. NOT BRAWM team claimes. The
actual disclaimers from NILU and EURAD.
PLEASE READ: http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/node/3164
In case you don't have the time to read the info in the above link, here
is quote from NILU:
"The products should be considered informational and only indicate 'worst case scenario' releases"
If you are an honest and humble person, you will now apologize for your
unwarranted outburst.
Mr. Madison, what you've
Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Even though the amount of
Even though the amount of radiation that is coming over is decreasing, it is still nice to know when and where even small amounts may be headed. If you know when some ionizing radiation might be around, and you can stay indoors, why intentionally expose yourself to it? Most people would stay away from people with viruses or furniture that is infested with vermin, so why not protect yourself from something that might affect your health for the rest of your life? The NILU projections gave me more confidence to venture outdoors or open my windows and doors wide during these unsure times. Knowing that radiation is still being released, but having Japan lie both directly and by omission about how much is being released, and now not knowing any kind of dispersion areas and times is much more stressful.
NILU forecasts didn't reflect reality
If you need your fix of
If you need your fix of radiation plumes you still have the ones prepared by ZAMG. Read the disclaimer before having a heart attack:
"The colour scale shows a total of five colours. ,,Area A" (violet) is meant to mark an area with maximum dose rate of 0,3 µSv/h, which corresponds to the amount of the natural background radiation dose. "Area B" (blue) marks a region with 3 Micro-Sievert per hour. Finally, one arrives in "Area E" with a maximum dose rate of 3 Milli-Sievert per hour. This dose rate is currently certainly not exceeded in the regional area (25x25 km2 box) around the NPP. Irrespective of the assumed emissions, the maximum value of the model is always used to determine "Area E".
Please keep in mind that, due to the decreasing level of radioactivity in the crisis region, the actual area of influence is likely much smaller than the one displayed here."
http://www.zamg.ac.at/wetter/fukushima/
Radiation level high in South California?
My K8 Nuke safeguard never alerts since I bought it, but last night 05/27/2011 it starts to alert every 2 sec, and even until right now 05/28/2011, 12:00pm. Anyone else having the same reading?
Radiation level high in
Radiation level high in South California?
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 2011-05-28 18:42.
Yes, absolutely start a new thread about your K8 alerts on 5/27/11.
A whole lot of those of us living in Southern California are interested!
Try to see if an earthquake
Try to see if an earthquake happened around the same time. Fault movement can sometimes release large quantities of Radon quickly.
S. Calif. Numbers
What do you mean by "alert"? Is it an alarm or an led? Or both?
And yes, I suggest you start a new thread if you want this followed
up on.
Currently, S. Calif. has the following beta gross counts:
Anaheim: <50 cpm
Los Angeles: <50 cpm
Riverside: Approx. 70 cpm
San Bernardino: Approx. 50 cpm
San Diego: Approx. 50 cpm (jumping around <100 cpm last 24 hours)
And none of the gamma ranges for any of the above locations are
showing as elevated.
K8 alarm/LED meanings:
http://seintl.com/products/k8_alarming_rate_meter.html
Audible Alarm
K8; Alarms at 10 mR/hr. Can be ordered at other optional preset levels
H8; User settable alarm- .5 to 1,000 mR/hr (1R) with a trimer option. Audible Alarm Sound Level: 80 dB at 4” (10cm)
LED Indicators
Green LED flashes approx. every 5 seconds at .5 mR/hr (5 mSv/hr), 2.5 seconds at 1 mR/hr (10 mSv/hr), flashes rapidly every 1 second at 2 mR/hr, and every 30 min. indicating natural radiation. Red LED flashes at approx. 10 mR/hr (100 mSv/hr), custom settable are available. Yellow LED is on when battery needs replacing
new thread
I would start a new thread for that ???