Patagonia

Hello does anyone want to re-locate share costs and expenses, and enjoy the shared experience. I want to move to Argentina or Chile, and want to find like minded people to help make this a positive experience out of a negative one. To escape what is coming down the pipe for the next 50 years and to breath fresh air.

Points south

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I have had occasion to visit the southern regions of the Americas for business and vacation travels.

There are some 'issues' to consider before relocating. There is a considerable crime and law enforcement 'zeal' concern. The Communists and National Socialists 'go at it' rather enthusiastically. This translated to the Allende execution in plain view, Pinochet regime, militarism, martial law, curfews and lots of shooting in the Santiago nights ... every night.

You might also wish to read up on the 'disappeared' in Argentina. Lots of leftists were taken out to sea on 1-way helicopter rides. Argentina has relatively recently 'mixed it up' with Chile and England over territorial disputes. By now virtually all the refugee German war criminals have died.

There are considerable crime, corruption and kidnapping 'issues' in Southern Brazil.

As others have mentioned, your employment options are somewhat limited. I do not avoid the region, but 'have a care'. It is not Utopia, Greek for 'no-place'.

For Bill from OP

Bill,

Thank you for the information. First the information from Busby and Yablokov. I do indeed believe they understand the circumstances and have mastered the science with regards to what happens to both plant and human life when radiation touches down. I do not however agree with the shooting every night in Santiago bit. Yes, during Pinochet's time, reckless chaos was the norm, and it was ugly. Southern Brazil is not comfy place to settle down for an American, but for now Chile, can be quite pleasant and safe. Especially, if you are not outspoken or overly public with your political views. I am just looking for place to settle down and mind my own business. LIve simply without the oppression of corporate muck in my own patio, and spewing out of my faucet ! Am I wrong to move ? Do you really feel it is not safe in Patagonia ? I do respect your opinion and realize you are well read on some of these subjects. The natural beauty of Patagonia is so sprawling, the lakes, fjords, rivers, trees, forests, ocean, and of course some Chilean wine never hurts either especially after this roller coaster ride with Fukushima. You say have been there, when were you in Patagonia tell me about it please. Thank you. Even if Fukushima finally gets a lid over her dismantled bowels, we have lots of nuclear plants here in the US. Chile has none, but get some down the road, if they do it will be much smaller, as they have water to provide power. I also know the air can be somewhat polluted that is mostly in Santiago during the rainy season, not much worse than say Los Angeles, and Chile does not have a lot of those third world diseases from what I have read. Also most people are quite educated, and pensive. I seem to be drawn to the European blend of culture with the South American what can I expect to find ? I love nature, and the arts. Does it seem to you based on your travles, that I will feel comfortable there or not ?

OP for Bill

I forgot to mention this. Bio Bio had an earthquake yesterday 6.2 I believe. I know there are hundreds of volcanos in Chile and lots of earthquakes too. Somehow I am not that afraid of the natural disasters as these, but more fearful of the dreaded nuclear accident. The deadly creep of the silent and sinister radiation. The slow damning of life the mutations and the living hell it can create. Most of the houses built in Chile are made of local wood, I think they tend to hold up better during an earthquake because they are more pliable. Earthquakes and volcano's release their energy and are done. Nuclear fallout lasts almost an eternity and dna damage continues forward as well. It finds its way into air, water, soil, there is no escaping it. What is your take ?

Factbook

Update your inoculations, including tropical diseases, on a world health (yellow) card, for easy travel across international borders. The CIA data base is generally more accurate and reliable than tourist bureaus and/or the various state departments.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ci.html
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/br.html
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ar.html
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/uy.html

Go for it!

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Go for it. Do your homework. Stay alert. It will be a great adventure.

Breathtakingly beautiful. Wonderful food, especially the seafood from the Humbolt current. Agree, that the Chilean wines are great. Oh and the national flag --- looks almost identical to the Texas flag.

I enjoy the region and expect you will as well.

http://www.corrosion-doctors.

Do you know hos HUGE Chile

Do you know hos HUGE Chile is? This artilce refers to Santiago. There are specific factors that affect air pollution in Santiago, much like Los Angeles. This country, and most others in S. America, have one of the lowest population densities in the world, which is why it is overall so pristine. Have you ever been there? It's amazing.

HUGE Chile...from OP

Yes, I agree Chile is Huge. And yes very few people live there mostly they live in the larger cities. Yes that is why I believe overall it is pristine. Lots of rainfall also helps clean the air. The Andes are beautiful too ! No I have never been there, that is why I want to go ! Have you been there ?? Tell me about it, about your experiences there please !

From OP

Thank you for your link about the clean air. The farther South the better. It is still better than most places to live however.

I had reviewed this very page before you even sent it. And yes Santiago can get bad.

OP my email

mariamattioli@yahoo.com

My email for the Southern Cal couple, moving in 30 days !

Hello Friend!

I sent you a note (smile)

On the Beach

This movie, ‘On the Beach’, mirrors my SAC briefings, circa late 1950s. Such life and death matters were discussed more candidly during that era, than at present. Today, corporate interests and governmental neuroses limit public access to direct threats.

On The Beach, directed by Stanley Kramer, (1959) featured: Gregory Peck (Captain Dwight Lionel Towers - USS Sawfish), Ava Gardner (Alcoholic Moira Davidson), Fred Astaire (scientist Julian Osborne) and Anthony Perkins (Royal Australian Navy lieutenant Peter Holmes). After a nuclear war, the last US nuclear submarine searches unsuccessfully for signs of life in the Northern Hemisphere. The Australian government arranges for its citizens to receive suicide pills and injections, so that they may choose to avoid prolonged suffering from the coming radiation sickness.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upg2eqNbF3w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRf-g9aSdfU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upg2eqNbF3w&feature=related

Australian remake Part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv_OJBBaF48&NR=1

Survivable

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I consider the Fukushima nuclear disaster to be survivable; by most residents of the Northern Hemisphere, unless you happen to live on Hokkaido Island.

It does seem quite likely that for many Hokkaido residents, 'the end is near'. Certainly the government of Japan, the IAEA, the global press, GE, Hitachi and TEPCO are more concerned with your emotional calmness, than your continued life on this orb.

There are many fatal maladies related to excessive radiation exposure than Acute Radiation Sickness and cancer. Hokkaido residents are expected to succumb in a similar fashion to Ukraine regional deaths following Chernobyl.

Much of this anticipated death could have been prevented with rapid evacuations, and radiation drug interventions, but that action would have 'upset' some residents and had a negative impact on corporate quarterly earnings. The radiation death rates are expected to be much lower for Tokyo and points south.

Source for this info?

Source for this info?

Source - Recent

accept the post-Fukushima realities as soon as possible

OPINION: How to minimize consequences of the Fukushima catastrophe

Kyodo News, By Alexey V. Yablokov councilor for the Russian Academy of Science, MOSCOW, April 15,

http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/04/85736.html
http://www.japantoday.com/category/commentary/view/how-to-minimize-conse...
http://www.jtmp.org/green/index.php?q=node/105

The analysis of the health impact of radioactive land contamination by the accident at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, made by Professor Chris Busby (the European Committee of Radiation Risk) based on official Japanese Ministry of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology data, has shown that over the next 50 years it would be possible to have around 400,000 additional cancer patients within a 200-kilometer radius of the plant. Underestimation is more dangerous for the people and for the country than overestimation.

The main directions of actions that should be taken:

1. Enlarge the exclusion zone to at least about a 50-km radius of the plant;

2. Distribute detailed instructions on effective ways to protect the health of individuals while avoiding the additional contamination of food. Organize regular measurements of all people by individual dose counters (for overall radionuclides) at least once a week. Distribute the radioprotectors and decontaminants (substances which provide the body protection against harmful effects of radiation) of radionuclides. There are many of such food additives;

3. Develop recommendations for safe agriculture on the contaminated territories: reprocessing of milk, decontamination of meat, turning agriculture into production of technical cultures (e.g. biofuels etc.). Such ''radionuclide-resistant'' agriculture will be costly (it may be up to 30-40 percent compared with conventional agriculture) and needs to be subsidized;

"over the next 50 years it

"over the next 50 years it would be possible to have around 400,000 additional cancer patients"

Considering this is Busby's analysis, and considering there are around 330,000 cancer DEATHS (not patients) in Japan every year, this is actually good news.

I mean, by the time those 400,000 patients develop cancer (some of them would survive) 16,500,000 would have died. They would probably save more people if they ban tobacco.

Continued

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4. It is necessary to urgently improve existing medical centers -- and possibly create new ones -- to deal with the immediate and long-term consequences of the irradiated peoples (including medical-genetic consultations on the basis of chromosome analysis etc.);

5. The most effective way to help organize post-Fukushima life in the contaminated territories (from Chernobyl lessons) is to create a special powerful interagency state body (ministry or committee) to handle the problems of contaminated territories during the first most complicated years.

I am sure that Russian, Belarusian and Ukrainian radiation medicine and agriculture specialists, radiobiologists and radioecologists who have enormous experience in fighting radiation consequences will be ready to cooperate with Japan.

(Alexey V. Yablokov is a councilor for the Russian Academy of Science and a principal author of ''Chernobyl: Consequences of the Catastrophe for People and the Environment,'' published in 2009).

How does this article from 6

How does this article from 6 weeks ago relate to Hokkaido?

Rose tinted glasses

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Dear Ostrich Herd & Anonymous-_?

The rosy scenario painted by the above references was based on the early and overly optimistic radioactive release numbers issued by Japan.

Virtually none of the sage advise from the Russian Academy of Science was followed.

Therefore, the people of Japan are in much deeper trouble than indicated by the references above.

But always keep in mind that GE 'Brings Good Things to Life'!

That's very interesting. How

That's very interesting. How do your sources support in any way your references to the population of Hokkaido being in special danger?

Plato

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Dear Plato (Anonymous-999)

Thanks for the Socratic method demo.

Interrogation 101 - without the spotlight glare & waterboarding.

I seldom directly address advocates, except when their questions accidentally impinge on questions of general interest.

Your meta strategy to avoid

Your meta strategy to avoid addressing direct and simple queries about your analysis is a bit sterile. Then we have your attempts at ad hominem when discussing with anonymous users. Assuming than anyone asking for some clarification about your claims is an advocate of nuclear energy is a bit puzzling, to be sincere.

Anyway, can you tell me why did you say that "It does seem quite likely that for many Hokkaido residents, 'the end is near'"?

Source - Recent

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-chernobyl-fear-20110...

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-chernobyl-fear-20110...

In the Chernobyl disaster zone, life — and death — is still bleak

Twenty-five years after the Chernobyl nuclear reactor spewed its deadly shower of radioactive isotopes, the Russian village of Stary Vyshkov, home to post-Soviet refugees, is still paying the price.

By Sergei L. Loiko, Los Angeles Times

April 24, 2011
Reporting from Stary Vyshkov, Russia— After Svetlana Ivanova and her husband moved to this village in southwestern Russia 17 years ago, they laughed when they found out what locals called the $4 monthly payment for living in the contaminated Chernobyl zone: funeral money.

Then one warm spring afternoon three years ago, her husband, Pyotr Ivanov, came home from a job-seeking trip to Moscow, put on a clean white shirt, stepped out into the garden "for a smoke" and hanged himself.

Why Hokkaido?

Why Hokkaido?

Disregarding causation, liability and politics…

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Perhaps the Japanese people should consider evacuation of Hokkaido and Honshu Islands. It may be a good idea to ‘cull’ all the doomed conifers (pine trees) in favor of deciduous plants that are more radiation hardy. Oh, and that seafood diet thing may not be a good survival plan, unless imported from far-far away. Pen fed chicken, fed grain from the Southern Hemisphere and RO water, may reduce the inevitable Japanese mass die off.

US military personnel stationed at Adak Island, Dutch John and the Marshall Islands should be issued radiation suits and receive hazard pay. USA consumers should probably snub seafood from the Aleutian Island, Puget Sound and San Francisco Bay fisheries between 2012 AD and 2300 AD. It may also be prudent to restrict seafood from off the coasts of Southern California, Baja and Hawai’i between 2013 AD and 2301 AD. That end date might need to be extended to 3999 AD, 9999 AD or perhaps 9999999 AD, but that will be someone elses call. Mariners in the North Pacific might be advised to cease washing the ships with unfiltered sea water and strolling the deck.

Is there a ignore option?

Is there a ignore option?

De Nile is a river in Egypt

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Certainly, the official position of the Japanese and US Governments is the ‘ignore option’.

The ostrich option is always available. The human capacity for denial may be the strongest force in the universe. What you don’t know may kill you but it won’t upset you.

Ignore the ‘bridge washed out’ sign. Join the Ann Coulter hormesis experiment. Drink deep the purple Kool-Aid. Skip those pesky annual trips to the doctor. Ride that Harley without a helmet. Enjoy the view skydiving, without a reserve chute. Go for it. Just don’t take the kids.

Always keep in mind that ‘GE brings good things to life’!

“To not choose is to choose.”.

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‘Catching cancer’ from radioactive fallout is as simple as ‘catching cold’. The victim seldom notices anything out of the ordinary at the time. A few radionuclides, such as cesium and plutonium may give slight and transient burning/irritation sensations to eyes or nasal passages when inhaled.

This deadly radioactive vector is somewhat similar to contraction of malaria, HIV and cervical cancer. The cause, vectors, effects and medical treatments are well understood in all these deadly conditions. Chance and choice play their parts in radiation as in the other contagions. Some people were inside, others outside in the radionuclide storms. ‘Black rain’ hit or missed your dairy source, vegetables and municipal water supply. Adults placed their bets. Children had no say in the matter in Japan or the USA. “Failure to choose is to choose.”

Plutonium, strontium and iodine radioisotopes will produce respectively lung, bone and thyroid cancers in a few years. Likely the victim will be unaware of the exposure until after the disease has been diagnosed. Several hundred thousand Americans and perhaps several million Japanese will contract cancer from the airborne Fukushima radioactive fallout. That is a done deal. The foul air has been breathed and the water and food are contaminated.

The next wave of cancer in North America will come from the North Pacific fisheries. Again, chance and choice will determine who ‘catches cancer’. Bon appétit!

Other governments

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There is no suggestion here, that the US, Canadian or European governments are more or less concerned with the survival of their citizens/subjects.

That would not be a reasonable assumption, as they are all, save perhaps Austria, sworn silent to 'the grave' (that would be your grave).

http://www.zamg.ac.at/wetter/fukushima/
http://www.nature.com/news/2011/110317/full/news.2011.168.html

Nature revealed earlier this week than an international agency set up to detect nuclear tests, the Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty Organization (CTBTO), is transmitting detailed data on the spectrum of radionuclides and their levels in the air in and around Japan and the Asia-Pacific region to its member states each day, but that the CTBTO could not release these data to the public because it lacked a mandate to do so.

Who is sworn to silence?

Who is sworn to silence? Can you provide links?

Plato ---------- Repeat

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Dear Plato (Anonymous-999)

Thanks for the Socratic method demo.

Interrogation 101 - without the spotlight glare & waterboarding.

I seldom directly address advocates, except when their questions accidentally impinge on questions of general interest.

Poor old Bill has reached

Poor old Bill has reached the end of his script and can't continue. Now he falls back on the same fingers in the ears reaction you'd expect from someone who can't support their argument with facts.

Pathetic waste of space.

“There is no danger”

Endless lying about the fallout

“There is no danger”

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/650198068/Fallout-thyroid-link-gets-b...

Four studies were conducted of Utah schoolchildren exposed to radioactive fallout from Nevada nuclear weapon tests.

J Truman, originally from southern Utah and now a resident of Malad, Idaho, was among the group of children first tested in the early 1960s and then retested. "As a participant in that study since its beginning I can't say it's comforting to see the final verdict," he said in an e-mail. "Far from it. There's only anger."

He is angry about the endless government repetitions of "there is no danger" as fallout was coming down. Truman also feels anger about the federal government pulling the funding on the next follow-up tests, "when the new links (between fallout and disease) started emerging."

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/650198069/Underground-blasts-were-als...
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/650198500/Fallout-from-the-new-fallou...
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/650198389/Matheson-acts-on-fallout-st...
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/635189839/Thyroid-woes-a-long-term-ri...
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/635184516/CDC-posts-final-report-on-f...
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/635180019/Fallout-study-corrects-old-...

authorities hesitated to inform citizens of dangers

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http://www.fas.org/programs/ssp/nukes/nuclear_power_and_fuel_cycle/chern...

Home > Programs > Strategic Security > Nuclear Information Project > Nuclear Power and Fuel Cycle

The Nuclear Dilemma and Lessons from Chernobyl

By Anne Fitzpatrick

The initial explosion killed two of the plant workers. Twenty-eight people, including the plant crew, the firemen, and the emergency clean-up workers died in the first three weeks after the explosion from acute radiation sickness. One died of cardiac arrest. 106 persons with lower exposure levels were treated for radiation sickness and survived. A few additional deaths of area residents resulted from thyroid cancer in the following months. Over the course of several days following the accident, contamination spread unevenly across northern and western Ukraine, Belarus, and southern Russia while Soviet authorities hesitated to inform its citizens of the catastrophe and its dangers.

The Chernobyl Zone is still one of the most radioactive places on earth. Ukraine’s government maintains that over time, 3.5 million people worldwide became ill from the accident and its fallout. Ukraine itself has registered 4,400 deaths that resulted directly or indirectly from the accident. According to the World Health Organization, about 6.7 million people in surrounding countries were exposed to fall-out. Belarus was hit particularly hard, and suffers to this day from birth defects and health-related problems affecting its citizens. The actual figures for those injured or maimed by the long-term consequences from the accident are hard to corroborate: human exposure to varying levels of radiation began from the moment of the accident and continues through the present, and the Soviet records on these figures prior to 1991 are unreliable.

In front of the boarded-up Chernobyl fire station was a gray concrete sculpture of a group of firefighters dressed in their gear, holding water hoses, standing underneath an eerie atom-like symbol. The Ukrainian caption at the sculpture’s base read: “They Saved the World.” There is no doubt of this and of the sacrifice they made. Within hours of their exposure to the burning reactor core, the firefighters became gravely ill and died within weeks. They are buried in zinc-lined, lead coffins set in deep graves near Moscow.

In Throats of Émigrés...

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/20/nyregion/20chernobyl.html?_r=1

In Throats of Émigrés, Doctors Find a Legacy of Chernobyl

NYTimes By RICHARD PÉREZ-PEÑA - Published: April 20, 2006

The first deaths and illness from Chernobyl hit people whose bodies were simply overwhelmed by massive doses of radiation. Soon after came a wave of cancers, like leukemia and lymphoma. Thyroid cancers occurred most often in children, and those tended to appear in the first decade. But for adults exposed to radiation, thyroid cancer can take 20 years or more to develop.

Cancer of the thyroid gland is rising in the United States, to about 30,000 new cases a year, according to the American Cancer Society and the National Cancer Institute, and it is climbing more sharply in New York State. Doctors who work with émigrés from the former Soviet Union say that population accounts for a significant part of the rise, because of the accident at the Chernobyl nuclear reactor in Pripyat, Ukraine, on April 26, 1986.

The link between nuclear fallout exposure and thyroid cancer is well documented, in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and in areas of the United States and other countries that were affected by aboveground nuclear tests. Since Chernobyl, studies have found rates of thyroid cancer in Belarus and Ukraine that are several times higher than before the accident.

Thyroid cancer kills about 1,500 people a year in the United States, in part because it can go undetected for years. Doctors who treat immigrants from Ukraine, Belarus and western Russia say that they see a disturbing number of advanced cases because patients do not know that they should be tested, and they often see American doctors who do not immediately think in terms of radiation exposure. A systematic effort is needed to screen people who might have been exposed, as in Belarus, where nearly all thyroid cancers are caught early enough to be cured. Until then, it is impossible even to know the scope of the problem.

Diagnoses of thyroid cancer in the United States are about twice as common as they were in the early 1980's, rising most sharply since the mid-1990's. And it has risen faster in New York, home to the nation's largest concentration of Eastern European immigrants, where it doubled in a decade.

One even wonders if Bill has

One even wonders if Bill has enough mental ability left to even answer a direct question. When taken to task he posts 3, 5, 10 articles as copy/paste, basically diarrhea of the keyboard, without ever answering the question. Most aren't even relevant to the discussion. Poor old Bill.

Well, you know what they say, yada yada, dazzle them with bull.

Judge & Jury

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The general reader/seeker has 'skin in the game'. The Fukushima nuclear disaster has launched a pandemic of death and disease in Nippon and the North Pacific and a parallel epidemic in the USA, Canada and Mexico.

The Japanese/American public comprises several hundred million persons. Each is a judge and jury in this matter. The researchers, engineers and clinicians gather and array the data. Advocates present their case. The people shall decide for themselves.

Vox populi, vox dei ... "The voice of the people [is] the voice of God".

You are just an ass. The

You are just an ass. The fact that you call Japan, Nippon, shows you have no clue and are really an ancient fool. Japanese call themselves Japanese and only use Nippon to describe their own country. Are you Japanese?

I'm sure there's plenty of other "facts" you get wrong too.

Yeah RIGHT

The term Nippon is used fairly informally in Japan and elsewhere. I would not lack for perjoratives, should that be the intent.

Restaurant Nippon - Japanese Restaurant - New York City, USAwww.restaurantnippon.com/

Nippon Dinnerware - Antique China Porcelain & Collectibles
Much of the antique Nippon china available has been hand-painted with ornate decorations that, ironically, the Japanese of the era considered excessive and ...
www.antique-china-porcelain-collectibles.com/nippon_china_dinnerware.htm -

The following companies are based in Japan.

Nippon Telegraph and Telephone
Nippon Television
Nippon Broadcasting System
Radio Nippon
Nishi-Nippon Railroad
Nippon Ichi Software
Nippon Sharyo
All Nippon Airways
Air Nippon
Nippon Animation
Nippon Express
Nippon Kodo
Nippon Electric Company
West Nippon Expressway Company
Nippon Denso
Nikon (Nippon K?gaku)
Nippon Steel Corporation
Nippon Paint

You comments are Copy Pasta

You comments are Copy Pasta Spam BS. Master troll? Or have you gone off the deep end?

Just another GE Shill

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This particular 'Anonymous' appears to be just one more whiny, gripy GE shill.

These guys live in an alternate reality universe. The Fukushima disaster has clearly demonstrated that these delusions are quite dangerous.

Ann Coulter and Barack Obama were two such GE shills that quickly rushed to the microphones, to defend the GE fantasy.

The GE shills deny everything and attack everybody.

GE shill

Yeah just another one ! Where do they come from ? Why are they so hip to GE ? Must be on the GE payroll. Coulter is a hag ! Pardon my expression here but that is the word that comes to mind.

Patagonia Under Siege

One of the last wild places on earth is being threatened by the international hydroelectric and mining interests. Under the guise of preventing global warming, these for-profit investors propose damming most of the major rivers in Patagonia, Chile for the purpose of using the electricity to provide power for new gold, copper and aluminum mines, thus accelerating the global economy. Here you will find the most current news in what looks to be an epic environmental struggle for the future of Patagonia, Chile.

http://patagonia-under-siege.blogspot.com/

just fyi, people who live in

just fyi, people who live in Patagonia are wondering what the fuss is all about. Most of their power already comes from hydro with no issues. Educated folk who live in S Chile will tell you this is a HIGHLY dramaticized and politicized issue, primarily fomented by outsiders. It's good to seek balance when researching and go to the direct sources on both sides of an issue.

If I went to the Japanese in

If I went to the Japanese in Tokyo right now I am pretty sure they would tell me all is fine and dandy and that I am silly for thinking otherwise.

40 miles from Fukushima: "I

40 miles from Fukushima:

"I don't think it was necessary to remove the soil," said Miwa Takeda, as she waited outside the school for her nine-year-old daughter.

"Radiation levels haven't exceeded the daily limit, so why bother? My husband worked at the Fukushima No 2 plant until the day after the tsunami and he hasn't bothered undergoing a radiation check. We eat the local vegetables and our kids play outside for as long as they like."

AMAZING! How prevalent is

AMAZING! How prevalent is this view?

You can check the original

You can check the original source to put things in context:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jun/01/fukushima-effect-japan-schoo...

That quote is from a woman criticizing the campaign promoted by concerned parents to remove the contaminated soil in schoolyards.

Those same parents social response and the criticism from different experts prompted the local authorities in Fukushima to announce they were going back to the 1 mSv/y as a target (as opposed to the 20 mSv/y that the central government had established)

The comment this man/woman

The comment this man/woman was responding to has been removed. Why is that?

Somehow the spam filter

Somehow the spam filter caught it. I have restored the comment.

Mark [BRAWM Team Member]