Fukushima - No Way Out By TC Burnett
Fukushima - No Way Out
By TC Burnett
5-11-11
Those of you who have been following me at HawaiiNewsDaily or on my blog may not have been thrilled with my initial assessments back in March - and ongoing - that Fukushima isn't going away.
The reactors can NEVER be placed in 'cold shutdown' because the cores are partially melted together. We are talking about hundreds of tons of fissile material inside reinforced concrete containment vessels. The containment vessels are cracked. They are releasing radiation. Fission excursions are still occurring and no one can go inside those containments for hundreds of years - even if they could get to the fuel.
They continue to pour water on them and drain it off into the ocean because there is nothing else they can do. If they stop pumping water, the genie comes out. If they keep pumping water, it has to go somewhere and that somewhere is the ocean. It is still a stop gap. Those reactor cores cannot be put into 'cold shutdown' or dismantled or entombed. Ever.
They cannot treat as much radioactive water as they have to keep pumping in. No one can. So the radiation is going to come across the Pacific and impact the US and, certainly, Hawaii. Yes, I read that they are going to start treating it or storing it, but the task is impossible. Reactor cores have to be maintained in a 'clean room' environment or the water picks up particles - which then become radioactive - which then irradiate the reactor plumbing - and, eventually, become fuel. That's why they have to keep pumping fresh water in and dumping it out. They cannot recirculate it, even if they manage to get new plumbing installed. The next major earthquake there will begin an extinction event.
I am not going to say 'told you so'. I am going to suggest that people who have the opportunity should consider growing their own food for a variety of reasons. I like aquaponics.
Growing food in enclosed greenhouses protects from fallout and the organic uptake of radionuclides. For my system, I have developed an ion-exchange filter to remove radioactive isotopes from rainwater. I can still use catchment. The water inside the greenhouses; water we need to drink, will be clean.
Consider this. When the economy collapses, as it must, the money people have invested almost anywhere except under their mattresses will be gone. If, instead, you chose to develop an aquaponics farm, in two years you would probably have a continuous supply of non-radioactive food.
We are now at the crossroads. The economic collapse IS coming. The radiation IS coming. I am going to have a radiation-free food source. If you believe you have your money and food supply secured into the future and that we will not devolve into a greenhouse economy, you don't need to worry about it. If you guess wrong, you will have lost both your money and your chance.
It is true that I am a doomsayer and actively prepare for the worst situation I can imagine. If I don't, that's what will happen. If I do, and it doesn't happen, I will still have an active, organic aquaponics enterprise. It is win-win for me when I get it built on whatever scale I can do.
I am going to make fresh food and clean water no matter what anyone else does. It's merely the practical matter of how many people I can feed. In one greenhouse I can produce enough food for myself and the people who help me. With two, I can produce a surplus and feed other people. I envisioned three, but I may have to convert the third one to a water treatment/storage facility. I presently don't have enough land for more than three and I don't have access to more than three greenhouses in any case. I still have to buy them, prep the ground, do the plumbing, dismantle them. move them, re-erect them and build the two-tier infrastructure inside them. Then I have to make them produce. It is happening.
I have friends - maybe a lot of friends - who are investing in silver and gold. You can't eat it. Since no one can eat it, I won't trade you food for it. I'm just saying - the markets are going back up today after what looked like a downward spiral on 3 May. They are fluctuating and confused. That is not a foundation for stability.
One of these days you will look at the clock and it will say "too late".
The live camera link is here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FptmoVcgpqg The sound is on. You can listen to the waves gently breaking on the shoreline. You can watch birds fly around the ruins - they don't understand what is happening to them. When earthquakes hit you can watch the camera shake. It all appears very peaceful and tranquil. It's a view of Hell.
BRAWM
Someone from BRAWM please debunk the original post and put my mind at ease!
Yes, I´ll do.... As the
Yes, I´ll do....
As the plant is water-cooled, uranium-235, plutonium, cobalt-60 continues to accumulate in the water tanks and subsequently released into the ocean. Approx. 1,000 to 10,000 times the safe dosage of cobalt-60 are being released from the reactors – it is uncertain what percentage of this is directly being pumped out to sea.
Are you better?
re "am i better"
Are you BRAWM? I don't want my info from "anonymous (not verified)" with a trollish attitude to boot. Jackass
I mean...
...the claim that cold shutdown can never be achieved. I didn't read all the rest.
The rest... About the
The rest...
About the condition of the reactor core:
"I think the fuel rods is completely melted. You may already have escaped from the pressure vessel. Yes, they say that 55% or 30%, but I think they are all melted. When the fuel rods melt, melt in the middle part down.
"I think the temperature inside the molten core is from 2000 to 2000 degrees Celsius and several hundred. A crust has formed on the surface, where water hammer. The decay heat is from 2000 to 3000 kW, and through cracks in the bark of radioactive materials (mainly noble gas and iodine) are released into the air.
"The most volatile gas has escaped from the reactor for now.
"The water [inside the pressure vessel] is highly contaminated with uranium, plutonium, cesium, cobalt, in concentrations that we have never seen before.
"My old colleague contacted me and shared with me their calculation. The decay heat of 2000 kW ... There is a substance called cobalt-60. Radioactive high, needs 1 to 1.5 meter thick coats. It kills people in 1000 curies. estimated 10 million curies of cobalt-60 in the reactor core. If 10% of cobalt-60 in the core are dissolved in water, is 1 million curies. "[10 million is equal to 370,000 curies terabecquerels and curios million is equal to 37,000 terabecquerels. I used this conversion table. Tell me I'm wrong! Cobalt-60 would only make a mess ... level 7]
"They (TEPCO) want to circulate this highly contaminated water to cool the reactor core. Even if they are able to establish the circulation system will be very difficult to protect from radiation. It will be a very difficult job to build the system , but you have to do.
"It is essential to know the current state of the reactor cores. It is my hypothesis [that have fused nuclei], but hopes that one day, and we have more water contaminated with radioactive materials. This is a war, and we have build a "bridge" in the reactor itself instead of playing with the turbine buildings or transport of contaminated water. "
Japan needs the Cosmo-DNA.
Japan needs the Cosmo-DNA.
Japan?! You mean Planet Earth!
I think Leader Desslock is in charge at Fukushima.
Are you the same TC from
Are you the same TC from Magnum PI?
Can I ride in the
Can I ride in the helicopter?!!!!
TMI reactor two may not have
TMI reactor two may not have breached, but was mostly dismantled even with partial core melt. Remote tools did a significant portion of the work, which was slow and methodical. There is no reason why the same approach can't be taken here.
The core will cool, eventually. It did at TMI, and at Chernobyl. Chernobyl can't be dismantled because the radiation around the reactor is still very hot. This is because it had no containment.
Fukushima NPP grounds will be able to be dismantled within 20-30 years and will return to pre-accident levels in 50-150 years depending on how much soil remediation is performed.
You claims of futility, economic collapse, gold buying etc. smacks of conspiracy theories and really doesn't belong on this site.
Economic Outcomes
I see a Japan willing and even demanding a life without much of the industry made easy and 'cheep' by fission power. I see Japan taking a collective deep breath that will last three decades. There are suddenly fewer people needing less so production for domestic consumption will decline naturally once the cleanup is mostly done. They 'bombed' themselves back into a early industrial economy and may opt to keep it simple for generations. Their new vision of the pursuit of happiness will be without bargains of a Faustian nature. Japan will play a very different roll in the global community from this point forward.. We will have much to learn from this new Japan.
Sort off
Probably not as perfect as u predict and not as dire as original post the chernoble reactor once melted reached a self sustaining state not getting hotter not getting colder but sustaining it's energy that's why it's hot still. And will continue some say for 100000 years.the water table is not mentioned in your rosy assessment as well as inner containmnet breaches something you could take into account.
No, Chernobyl's core is
No, Chernobyl's core is solid and likely not very much hotter than ambient temperature. It is now just a blob of corium that has solidified.
The reference to "hot" is radioactivity, not temperature. The core will remain radioactve for a long time, but the plant grounds and structures will not be for more than 120 years before they can be dismantled. This is all part of the Chernobyl project to replace the sarcophagus. Once they can get access, the core will be cut up remotely, and then stored safely underground permanently.
No This is the plan
[edit]The Chernobyl Shelter Fund
Computer impression of the New Safe Confinement to cover the No. 4 Reactor at Chernobyl
The Chernobyl Shelter Fund was established in 1997 at the Denver 23rd G8 summit to finance the Shelter Implementation Plan (SIP). The plan calls for transforming the site into an ecologically safe condition by means of stabilization of the sarcophagus followed by construction of a New Safe Confinement (NSC). While the original cost estimate for the SIP was US$768 million, the 2006 estimate was $1.2 billion. The SIP is being managed by a consortium of Bechtel, Battelle, and Electricité de France, and conceptual design for the NSC consists of a movable arch, constructed away from the shelter to avoid high radiation, to be slid over the sarcophagus. The NSC is expected to be completed in 2013, and will be the largest movable structure ever built.
Dimensions:
Span: 270 m (886 ft)
Height: 100 m (330 ft)
Length: 150 m (492 ft)
Are you that inbred? What
Are you that inbred? What are they going to do? Build a
dome and then say, "Well, our work is done."
Get a clue. They have said time and again that the new shell will allow them to dismantle the reactor from the inside without spilling more radiation.
Article from two years ago stating that the timeline is 50 years to remove the core after the new shell:
http://articles.sfgate.com/2008-04-28/news/17145392_1_reactor-world-s-wo...
Consider your post debunked.
Yea in your
Fairy tale the plan is to build another containment costing upward of 1billion dollars before u try to debunk my post maybe u should read it and recognize what FAS stands for .
U
Did u read my post it clearly states Too hot
Data on chernoble self sustaining
http://www.fas.org/programs/ssp/nukes/nuclear_power_and_fuel_cycle/chern...
Pictures taken inside the core reveal a post-apocalyptic horror show: dark and labyrinthine, with radioactive dangers lurking around every corner. Concrete and metal debris are strewn everywhere along unstable passages, and the building’s structure is fractured. Highly radioactive hardened masses abound: one infamous landmark, the elephant’s foot, is so called because of the shape of the giant glassy radioactive formation composed of silicon from sand, uranium and zirconium from the reactors fuel rods. It is too hot inside for scientists to the make very accurate readings of the risk levels, although Ukrainian and foreign scientists have assessed that there is no risk of another explosion. But other potential dangers lurk in the slowly crumbling blok, as its scientific caretakers will lucidly and eagerly explain to foreigners who come to visit them in the Zone.
"You claims of futility,
"You claims of futility, economic collapse, gold buying etc. smacks of conspiracy theories and really doesn't belong on this site."
You better watch out, the forum police are here!
The map, released May 6, was
The map, released May 6, was compiled from data from a joint aircraft survey undertaken by the Ministry of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology and the U.S. Department of Energy.
It showed that a belt of contamination, with 3 million to 14.7 million becquerels of cesium-137 per square meter, spread to the northwest of the nuclear plant. I think cesium is an indicator of other elements like URANIUM.
After the 1986 Chernobyl disaster, those living in areas with more than 555,000 becquerels of cesium-137 per square meter were forced to relocate. However, the latest map shows that accumulated radioactivity exceeded this level at some locations outside the official evacuation zones, including the village of Iitate and the town of Namie.
"I am surprised by the extent of the contamination and the vast area it covers," said Tetsuji Imanaka, assistant professor of nuclear engineering at the Kyoto University Research Reactor Institute.
Yup, there are hotspots from
Yup, there are hotspots from rain. They can be cleaned up. The Japanese didn't have the technology to map the accumulated fallout. Now that there is a map, people can be relocated and the affected areas cleaned as much as possible.
Life goes on.
As much as possible... Yes,
As much as possible... Yes, you said it...
The map is terrible.
80 km far of Fukushima with high amounts of cesium wich is an indicator of URANIUM too.
Can you please demonstrate
Can you please demonstrate how Cesium is an indication of Uranium contamination. As has been discussed by BRAWM on several ocassions, the two are not linked for various reasons.
This is the link for the map
This is the link for the map made by japan and US officials.
May 6th 2011
http://www.mext.go.jp/component/english/__icsFiles/afieldfile/2011/05/10...
They dont seem hotspots...
They dont seem hotspots... It is a big and vast area...
80x80=6400 km2
"I am surprised by the
"I am surprised by the extent of the contamination and the vast area it covers," said Tetsuji Imanaka, assistant professor of nuclear engineering at the Kyoto University Research Reactor Institute.
dose rates are still
dose rates are still only-Gamma Radiation and "on air" (far from effective dose rates, or committed effective, to which people are exposed) without going into the methodology record from the "heights of aircraft" (and there are many details necessary to consider, although not reported the details), what we see is shocking and severe. Gamma radiation-only (to 100cm from the ground and assuming the necessary corrections for geometry, which is a very big "in an atmosphere-radioactive), including dose rates of <1microSv / h and are very dangerous when we speak of" atmospheres-radioactive "with lots of floating particles, deposited, resuspended, etc. (Inhale, ingest, etc.)...
Concern is the huge light blue stain (300-600kBq/m2 sum Cs) showing similar spots to be found much more than 80km. It's dramatic dark-blue stain (<300kBq/m2 sum Cs), because even 0.03-3kBq/m2 sum Cs and is an outrage (and these spots extend much-much more than 80km (and more than 200km too). is horrible impact-type 7 INES Fukushima, and remains insufficient official information ... there is much else to report.
Neither spoke emission Chernobyl Uranium (Almighty Lord of the atomic-nuclear), or the type Fukushima 7plus-INES is willing to talk big-thing. Uranium is a massive component of nearly 1,800 tons of nuclear fuel (used and in use) is said accumulated (and are less safe) the 6-reactors in Fukushima Daiichi-1. At each release of cesium radioisotopes appear (of course, and undeniable indicator), there also is this the U-238 (and in mass quantities much greater). The U-238 has a specific activity rate-radioactive "low" (if not active much, and can do almost-fully, of course). This fact correlated inversely with their "long" half-life (4.5 EONS = 4.5 thousand-million years, Phew). But the U-238 has "surprises": it has a high chemical toxicity, and a very important radiological toxicity, acting both simultaneous and summative, in the deteriorating health of people infected.
We consider that the map is tentative (and very serious, of course) because the data are based (only) in the differential log-Gamma emission of various radionuclides (made with instruments located on board U.S. aircraft.) ..
This means that when made public, detailed maps (on record-representative sample) of highly contaminated soils, things go even worse (and should be added that are not yet over radioactive emissions of Fukushima type 7 INES). In the lessons learned from Chernobyl: the pollution from which it can not recover the habitability of a land is about 150-170kBq/m2. Moreover, experts who have already identified areas with higher concentrations of Cs-137 that was located in the most contaminated areas of Chernobyl (High radiation Beyond evacuation zone - nuclear Kyoto professor surprised by Extent of contamination and the Vast area it covers "Energy News) ... And that has not been looked rather bizarre situation in the sea of ??Fukushima and beyond. A total genocidal horror.
Radiation-contaminated area
Radiation-contaminated area spans 800 square km, new map shows.
2011/05/12
The total area contaminated with radiation from the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant is estimated at about 800 square kilometers, or about 40 percent the size of Tokyo, according to a radiation map created by the science ministry and U.S. Department of Energy.
The report uses the same level of contamination (555,000 becquerels or higher of cesium-137) that was used to issue compulsory evacuation orders in the Chernobyl nuclear accident in 1986.
To determine whether the current evacuation zone is appropriate or when residents can return home, the Nuclear Safety Commission of Japan plans to set up focal sites to heighten its monitoring of the possible further spread of radioactive contamination.
The report's radiation levels were determined in April by measuring, from about 150-700 meters above ground, levels of accumulated radiation on the ground. The areas measured were divided into 1- to 2-square-kilometer zones.
According to the map, about 800 square kilometers are contaminated with accumulated cesium-137 of 600,000 becquerels or higher per square meter. The substance has a half-life of about 30 years.
This area is largely the same as the Fukushima no-entry zone and planned evacuation zone designated by the central government. The total area is about one-tenth the size of the contaminated area in the Chernobyl nuclear accident.
The nuclear safety committee will pin down sites where constant monitoring is needed by the combined use of this radiation map and measurements taken on the ground. Using data collected from monitoring, the committee plans to prepare the way for residents to return home to normal life after the crisis at the plant is brought under control.
About 370,000 to 630,000 terabecquerels of radioactive substances are estimated to have been released by the crippled plant, according to a report by the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency and the Nuclear Safety Commission of Japan.
This radiation amount equals about one-tenth the amount released from the Chernobyl nuclear power plant, whose nuclear reactor was destroyed.
From April 1 through 6, highly radioactive water of 520 tons was discharged from the plant, while radiation of 4,700 terabecquerels was leaked, according to Tokyo Electric Power Co., raising concerns over severe environmental pollution.
Currently, cesium and iodine are still being detected 40 km offshore of the plant. Levels of cesium higher than the safety standard have been found in bamboo shoots, shiitake mushrooms and mountain vegetables.
(This article was written by Hisae Sato and Fumikazu Asai.)
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A new leak of highly
A new leak of highly radioactive water has been found seeping into the ocean near one of the reactors at the damaged Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.
Workers found that contaminated water was flowing from a pipe into a pit near the Number 3 reactor's water intake on Wednesday morning.
The workers then used a camera to film near the water intake pipe. They found contaminated water was also leaking from the wall of the pit into the ocean.
Tokyo Electric Power Company says that water in the pit contained 37,000 becquerels of cesium-134 per cubic centimeter. That represents 620,000 times above the safety limit set by the government.
TEPCO also found that seawater between the intake and a nearby special barrier had the same radioactive substance at 32,000 times the limit. The barrier was set up to prevent radioactive water from spilling into the ocean.
The firm says it managed to stop the leak later in the day after it blocked the pipe and buried the pit in concrete.
TEPCO is looking into the possibility that radioactive water in the reactor's turbine building may have leaked through a tunnel connecting to the pipe because water levels in the turbine building had fallen since Tuesday.
Last month, TEPCO confirmed that radioactive water had leaked into the ocean from a crack in a pit outside the No.2 reactor. It later stopped the leak.
Thursday, May 12, 2011 07:57 +0900 (JST)
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Instead of posting whole
Instead of posting whole articles you could post a summary and a link to the source (or at least include a link after the copy paste).
any news from Hawai?
any news from Hawai?
US citizens... Hawai...
US citizens...
Hawai... Alaska... California...
Let´s protest...
Ask to our goverments... ask to japanese goverment...
They sent all the mega-floating containers that were needed to store these waters and don´t let this HIGHLY RADIOACTIVE WATER (terabequerels) finished into the sea.
There is only 1 megafloating boat (calpabilitie: 10 million of liters).
There are 100 million of liters of highly radioactive water flooding FK-1.
Each week this amount is increased with 10 million of liters more flooding the nuclear facilities.
If the volume of contaminated water grows at the No. 1 reactor building, it could flow into the turbine building, then into a trench and finally into the sea. That was the course contaminated water at the No. 2 and No. 3 reactor buildings followed.
Actually they are spreading nº1 reactor with 10 tons water/hour (2 million of liters daily).
The volume of contaminated water grows at th Nº 1 reactor building, after flow into the turbine building, then in a trench and finally INTO THE SEA.
The amount of terabequerels in the water flooding FK-1 is bigger than the amount of terabequerels have been emited to the air from FK-1 scapes.
Tepco and our Goverments know it... But they are not making anything to avoid it...