Submitted by Combatiente el Norte (not verified) on Mon, 2011-05-09 20:46.
If just 1 % of the 150 million gun owners began to resist and put up a fight..............all hell would be unleashed.That's 1.5 million people who have had enough,enough of the lies from our so called leaders,the mass media and the other corporate-zombie puppets.Do you enjoy living in a police state ? Oh yeah,the globalists LOVE us.Yes,they love us to death.The system you bow down to is murderous.These people think they are playing GOD,they think you are their property.Are we just going sit here and take it ? ? A pirate radio station can be made for a few hundred bucks.Think about it.I hope to hear the real truth soon on 'Radio Rebelde'...........Peace.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 2011-05-09 19:05.
“We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries.”
David Rockefeller
“We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis, and the nations will accept the New World Order.”
Submitted by Combatiente el Norte (not verified) on Sun, 2011-05-08 21:26.
Okay people,when is enough.......'enough'?.Excuse me for sounding a little radical here,but what is it going to take to put an end to the cover-ups,the lies and the corruption on a global scale by the mass media and MEGA corporations,and our so called world leaders ? A number of revolutions in the 20th century started with student protests.Politics aside,a recent case history is the student organization FPL in el Salvador.They were the front running protest group,and the FMLN was the muscle behind them.Yes an armed coflict is a heavy price to pay,but it appears demonstrating,marching,writing letters,and yes begging and pleading in this case is getting us no-where.A big salute to Mark and the gang,you are truly some of the heroes of this whole nightmare.There alot of people(around the world)getting more and more pissed off everyday.It is not over by a long shot,will it get worse ?........only time will tell.Look,I am not advocating a call to arms.......,but really there must a large group of people willing to hold these criminals accountable.And I do not think our governemnts are about to do that anytime soon............WHEN IS ENOUGH..............ENOUGH ?
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 2011-05-08 18:46.
One frame every hour and nothing at night. Sometimes it shows steam going out of some of the buildings. I really have no way of knowing if it is accurate or not, but that applies to all the info we have about the situation at the plant. As far as I know Tepco has not released fake data, just delayed its publication or fed the media analyses that have been proven wrong several times.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 2011-05-08 14:43.
""Steam is coming out from the spent fuel pool of the No. 3 and No. 4 reactors, and I'm assuming that due to shadows created by lighting, the steam appeared black. Therefore, we assessed that it's not smoke from something burning or that sort of thing," TEPCO's General Manager, Junichi Matsumoto reassured reporters at the press conference.""
key words here "Assuming" "Therefore"
I am finished taking TEPCO's word for it. They are proven liars.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 2011-05-08 15:38.
At the risk of sticking my neck out here...I do feel that your comments to the above contributor are unfair.
His (or her) first statement that he is no longer accepting TEPCO's word as the truth, is just a statement of his feelings. You cannot logically dispute that.
Second, his statement that TEPCO has been shown to have lied in the past, is now the unassailable truth--by their own admission, if I recall correctly. Remember those 5,000 pieces of withheld data?
So, I don't know why you felt that you had to personally excoriate this contributor.
It seems to me that those of us who check in here regularly are hoping and praying for good news---and would be cheered by any shred of relief---but, let's face it, even Pollyanna herself would likely have to admit that what we have been witness to with respect to TEPCO, the Japanese government, EPA, and the black-out of media coverage does not lead one to place blind trust in any statements made by any one of the above.
Now, your point that there are others on the opposite side of the underlying nuclear debate who may be using this crisis to bolster their positions, is likely true. But, still, this would not, and does not, negate the two statements made by the above contributor.
Most pointedly, even the most flamboyant anti-nuclear activist, cannot be held responsible for the lies, fabrications, withholds and errors of omission that have already been publicly admitted to by TEPCO and the Japanese government, nor can they be blamed for the utter lack of coverage of this catastrophe by the main media.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 2011-05-08 16:20.
This event has been about as far from blacked out as is possible. There are hundreds of sites reporting on Fukushima accessible via Google news. If you lived through Chernobyl, then you know what blacked out means. No news at all. No data. No indication of problem and scale. We are very lucky that BRAWM has taken the time to do this work, but others are doing it as well. CDPH, Nilu, Eurad, etc.
I think the blogs referenced here, collectively, aren't worth hen of chickens, and have been proven already to be liers in order to drive traffic to their sites and give them a doom boner.
If they are such worthy news sites, why don't they ammend their stories once they are proven wrong? If they are honerable journalists, they would correct their information. The truth is they don't do this because that wouldn't feed their fan base. They aren't journalists, but hucksters.
As for the poster above, he gets what he deserves for going along with yelling fire in the theater.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 2011-05-08 13:25.
Image captures of video footage from the Fukushima nuclear plant appear to show a fire. According to Alexander Higgins and other bloggers, the Japanese shut down the webcam after the images below appeared on the internet. Lucas White Field Hixson posted the images last night, according to Higgins. There is also an animation of the images posted on YouTube.
Fukushima is now almost entirely off the corporate media radar screen. If the photos below are accurate, the situation at the plant is out of control and still emitting dangerous levels of radiation. There is no mention of the fire or a possible explosion at the plant by the corporate media.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 2011-05-08 14:01.
Doesn't really look like a fire to me. Looks like steam lit up by the flood lights against a black sky.
The steam has been coming out since the hydrogen explosions.
A fire would produce black smoke that would be harder to see at night.
At the risk of sounding cynical, these "blogs" that serve up scaremongering tripe are in danger of becomming irrelevant in the current situation. The lengths they will go to drum up page views is rather sickening, IMHO.
I sure hope that there is no truth to the rumors of a fire, but not a single major news outlet either here or in Japan covering this makes me very suspicious of these claims and the people pushing them (who already have a suspect track record).
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 2011-05-08 14:48.
I must have been sitting too close to my granite countertop but I haven't seen pictures like in this article.
from the link above
Fukushima Prefecture, Japan -- Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO), Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency (NISA), and the Japanese government gave a joint press conference on Sunday and explained that an unusual amount of smoke that billowed from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power reactor on Saturday night was nothing to be concerned about.
hmmmm... unusual amount of smoke
unusual [?n?ju????l]
adj
out of the ordinary; uncommon; extraordinary
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 2011-05-08 14:16.
I'm finished trusting major news outlets. The memory of them saying no harmful fallout would reach the USA hasn't faded in my mind. Neither has the admission of a delay in reporting rad levels, and declaring this emergency level seven to prevent public panic. This is mostly on the Japanese gov. and press side but I can't forget that the IAEA and the NRC were there, too. So was our press. Nobody spoke up.
I guess this means that I give some blogs more credit than the Corrupt GE media, their "suspect track record" does not even compare.
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 2011-05-08 14:11.
the news hasn't been covering Fukushima at all, and the webcams were taken offline during the fire. Why do you still expect the news to be leading the charge in telling us the truth?
Also, steam rises, it doesn't blow sideways. this looks like smoke to me
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 2011-05-08 19:58.
There are likely several important differences.
Steam may simply be due to cooling water evaporating. I assume they are still spraying or injecting water for cooling purposes. Steam might be released to reduce pressure. If they increased the cooling water flow to prevent the formation of steam, that water would have t be collected and decontaminated or stored. Letting off steam has the benefit of removing heat while NOT removing as much particulate radiation as water might. Even operating nuclear plants let off (low level rad) steam from time to time. Steam bothers me less. Expect to see steam from time to time for a long time.
However smoke is a different story. Smoke is much hotter than steam and indicates a much hotter source. That source could reasonably be assumed to be nuclear, therefore the risk of radioactive material being carried up with the heat is much higher. Since the temperature of smoke is high, the particles would go much higher and spread further.
My take on these pics is that these are probably steam (business as usual).
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 2011-05-08 20:13.
gosh- do you all not remember that TEPCO announced a high release of radioactivity May 8, today? Where did I see that article? It is on this site. That could mean it is fire or something hotter than steam. how long does it take to reach the westcoast?
Better to buy duct tape now. Where do I get that?
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 2011-05-08 20:43.
The radiation release in question is from the turbine building at the number 1 reactor. They are opening it up after clearing the air, in order to continue repairs to the cooling system.
I read the release is calculated at 500 MBq. The source didn't say which nuclide, but a good guess is Cesium at this
point. They didn't say if the release is to the air or water.
If just 1 % of the 150
If just 1 % of the 150 million gun owners began to resist and put up a fight..............all hell would be unleashed.That's 1.5 million people who have had enough,enough of the lies from our so called leaders,the mass media and the other corporate-zombie puppets.Do you enjoy living in a police state ? Oh yeah,the globalists LOVE us.Yes,they love us to death.The system you bow down to is murderous.These people think they are playing GOD,they think you are their property.Are we just going sit here and take it ? ? A pirate radio station can be made for a few hundred bucks.Think about it.I hope to hear the real truth soon on 'Radio Rebelde'...........Peace.
blue light coming from reactor 4 which is burned out
http://lucaswhitefieldhixson.com/blue-light-radiating-smoking-fukushima-...
http://lucaswhitefieldhixson.com/
The USA on Its Knees At Last
“We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries.”
David Rockefeller
“We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis, and the nations will accept the New World Order.”
David Rockefeller
:rolleyes:
:rolleyes:
People don't feed the troll.
People don't feed the troll. There's nothing to see on the pictures at that site.
You are the troll.
You are the troll.
It's steam.
It's steam.
http://www.digtriad.com/news/national/article/174708/175/Japan-New-Smoke...
Okay people,when is
Okay people,when is enough.......'enough'?.Excuse me for sounding a little radical here,but what is it going to take to put an end to the cover-ups,the lies and the corruption on a global scale by the mass media and MEGA corporations,and our so called world leaders ? A number of revolutions in the 20th century started with student protests.Politics aside,a recent case history is the student organization FPL in el Salvador.They were the front running protest group,and the FMLN was the muscle behind them.Yes an armed coflict is a heavy price to pay,but it appears demonstrating,marching,writing letters,and yes begging and pleading in this case is getting us no-where.A big salute to Mark and the gang,you are truly some of the heroes of this whole nightmare.There alot of people(around the world)getting more and more pissed off everyday.It is not over by a long shot,will it get worse ?........only time will tell.Look,I am not advocating a call to arms.......,but really there must a large group of people willing to hold these criminals accountable.And I do not think our governemnts are about to do that anytime soon............WHEN IS ENOUGH..............ENOUGH ?
Japan: New Smoke At Nuclear
Japan: New Smoke At Nuclear Plant
This is the headline from your link. s-m-o-k-e
It's steam, here let me cite an article that says its smoke.
Backwards
The mass press is not worth
The mass press is not worth a turd of shit.
A tu*d of sh*t
Is that a new way of counting, like a hen of chickens or a tree of forests?
"According to Alexander
"According to Alexander Higgins and other bloggers, the Japanese shut down the webcam after the images below appeared on the internet."
Is this true or not? Did they shut down the webcam to avoid scrutiny?
You can check the live
You can check the live stream here: http://news.tbs.co.jp/newsi_sp/youtube_live/
They restart it from time to time, but at least this morning it was working.
HOW ABOUT THIS
HOW ABOUT THIS webcam?
http://www.tepco.co.jp/nu/f1-np/camera/index-j.html
Is this valid or it has been hi-jack with fake pictures?
One frame every hour and
One frame every hour and nothing at night. Sometimes it shows steam going out of some of the buildings. I really have no way of knowing if it is accurate or not, but that applies to all the info we have about the situation at the plant. As far as I know Tepco has not released fake data, just delayed its publication or fed the media analyses that have been proven wrong several times.
not very reasurred
""Steam is coming out from the spent fuel pool of the No. 3 and No. 4 reactors, and I'm assuming that due to shadows created by lighting, the steam appeared black. Therefore, we assessed that it's not smoke from something burning or that sort of thing," TEPCO's General Manager, Junichi Matsumoto reassured reporters at the press conference.""
key words here "Assuming" "Therefore"
I am finished taking TEPCO's word for it. They are proven liars.
And so are your sources, so,
And so are your sources, so, thanks for the mud-slinging and back to your paranoia hole you go.
Bu-bye.
Into the fray...I hope not
At the risk of sticking my neck out here...I do feel that your comments to the above contributor are unfair.
His (or her) first statement that he is no longer accepting TEPCO's word as the truth, is just a statement of his feelings. You cannot logically dispute that.
Second, his statement that TEPCO has been shown to have lied in the past, is now the unassailable truth--by their own admission, if I recall correctly. Remember those 5,000 pieces of withheld data?
So, I don't know why you felt that you had to personally excoriate this contributor.
It seems to me that those of us who check in here regularly are hoping and praying for good news---and would be cheered by any shred of relief---but, let's face it, even Pollyanna herself would likely have to admit that what we have been witness to with respect to TEPCO, the Japanese government, EPA, and the black-out of media coverage does not lead one to place blind trust in any statements made by any one of the above.
Now, your point that there are others on the opposite side of the underlying nuclear debate who may be using this crisis to bolster their positions, is likely true. But, still, this would not, and does not, negate the two statements made by the above contributor.
Most pointedly, even the most flamboyant anti-nuclear activist, cannot be held responsible for the lies, fabrications, withholds and errors of omission that have already been publicly admitted to by TEPCO and the Japanese government, nor can they be blamed for the utter lack of coverage of this catastrophe by the main media.
This event has been about as
This event has been about as far from blacked out as is possible. There are hundreds of sites reporting on Fukushima accessible via Google news. If you lived through Chernobyl, then you know what blacked out means. No news at all. No data. No indication of problem and scale. We are very lucky that BRAWM has taken the time to do this work, but others are doing it as well. CDPH, Nilu, Eurad, etc.
I think the blogs referenced here, collectively, aren't worth hen of chickens, and have been proven already to be liers in order to drive traffic to their sites and give them a doom boner.
If they are such worthy news sites, why don't they ammend their stories once they are proven wrong? If they are honerable journalists, they would correct their information. The truth is they don't do this because that wouldn't feed their fan base. They aren't journalists, but hucksters.
As for the poster above, he gets what he deserves for going along with yelling fire in the theater.
"A hen of chickens..." LOL! [nt]
Rick.
Ad hominem attack
Ad hominem attack
Sorry Charlie, An ad hominem
Sorry Charlie,
An ad hominem attack would be if I said the fire was a lie because the poster was a raging paranoid.
Whereas, what I really said was that his/her sources are lying.
See the difference?
Better luck next time.
Are you leaving? Bye
Are you leaving? Bye
Image captures of video
Image captures of video footage from the Fukushima nuclear plant appear to show a fire. According to Alexander Higgins and other bloggers, the Japanese shut down the webcam after the images below appeared on the internet. Lucas White Field Hixson posted the images last night, according to Higgins. There is also an animation of the images posted on YouTube.
Fukushima is now almost entirely off the corporate media radar screen. If the photos below are accurate, the situation at the plant is out of control and still emitting dangerous levels of radiation. There is no mention of the fire or a possible explosion at the plant by the corporate media.
Doesn't really look like a
Doesn't really look like a fire to me. Looks like steam lit up by the flood lights against a black sky.
The steam has been coming out since the hydrogen explosions.
A fire would produce black smoke that would be harder to see at night.
At the risk of sounding cynical, these "blogs" that serve up scaremongering tripe are in danger of becomming irrelevant in the current situation. The lengths they will go to drum up page views is rather sickening, IMHO.
I sure hope that there is no truth to the rumors of a fire, but not a single major news outlet either here or in Japan covering this makes me very suspicious of these claims and the people pushing them (who already have a suspect track record).
If it was steam that's been
If it was steam that's been ongoing since the "hydrogen explosion" wouldn't there be lot's of pictures/video/screencaps of it?
LOL. Where have you been?
LOL. Where have you been?
I must have been sitting too
I must have been sitting too close to my granite countertop but I haven't seen pictures like in this article.
from the link above
Fukushima Prefecture, Japan -- Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO), Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency (NISA), and the Japanese government gave a joint press conference on Sunday and explained that an unusual amount of smoke that billowed from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power reactor on Saturday night was nothing to be concerned about.
hmmmm... unusual amount of smoke
unusual [?n?ju????l]
adj
out of the ordinary; uncommon; extraordinary
I'm finished trusting major
I'm finished trusting major news outlets. The memory of them saying no harmful fallout would reach the USA hasn't faded in my mind. Neither has the admission of a delay in reporting rad levels, and declaring this emergency level seven to prevent public panic. This is mostly on the Japanese gov. and press side but I can't forget that the IAEA and the NRC were there, too. So was our press. Nobody spoke up.
I guess this means that I give some blogs more credit than the Corrupt GE media, their "suspect track record" does not even compare.
the news hasn't been
the news hasn't been covering Fukushima at all, and the webcams were taken offline during the fire. Why do you still expect the news to be leading the charge in telling us the truth?
Also, steam rises, it doesn't blow sideways. this looks like smoke to me
What happens to the steam
What happens to the steam when the wind blows?
It comes here!
It comes here!
Diff between smoke and steam
There are likely several important differences.
Steam may simply be due to cooling water evaporating. I assume they are still spraying or injecting water for cooling purposes. Steam might be released to reduce pressure. If they increased the cooling water flow to prevent the formation of steam, that water would have t be collected and decontaminated or stored. Letting off steam has the benefit of removing heat while NOT removing as much particulate radiation as water might. Even operating nuclear plants let off (low level rad) steam from time to time. Steam bothers me less. Expect to see steam from time to time for a long time.
However smoke is a different story. Smoke is much hotter than steam and indicates a much hotter source. That source could reasonably be assumed to be nuclear, therefore the risk of radioactive material being carried up with the heat is much higher. Since the temperature of smoke is high, the particles would go much higher and spread further.
My take on these pics is that these are probably steam (business as usual).
announced major release of radioactiviy May 8 article
gosh- do you all not remember that TEPCO announced a high release of radioactivity May 8, today? Where did I see that article? It is on this site. That could mean it is fire or something hotter than steam. how long does it take to reach the westcoast?
Better to buy duct tape now. Where do I get that?
The radiation release in
The radiation release in question is from the turbine building at the number 1 reactor. They are opening it up after clearing the air, in order to continue repairs to the cooling system.
I read the release is calculated at 500 MBq. The source didn't say which nuclide, but a good guess is Cesium at this
point. They didn't say if the release is to the air or water.
The correct answer-it blows
The correct answer-it blows sideways