no rain water test results for 2 weeks = coverup of massive contamination?

you have posted results for rain water collected march 17th through 27th (10 days in a row!) and then suddenly the results stop coming in with only 2 more updates: one on april 6th and another on april 12th.

there have been no results posted since April 12th which was 2 weeks ago.

I can only guess that the results are so bad that they CAN NOT be posted and that we have experienced severe contamination.

as you were able to post results from 10 days in a row a month ago, there is no plausible explanation for this extended absence of data other than to cover up the true extent of the contamination.

if i am wrong then please let me see rain water data from March 28th - April 5th, april 7th - april 11th, and from april 13 - today.

your credibility is clearly at risk here.

I am guessing someone at UCBNE is in big trouble for posting any results to begin with. after all, if there is no data, then there is no problem... right?

New RadNet Precipitation Results Posted on 4/25

Precipitation test results have been posted for ten locations on 4/25. They can be found at the following Web site: http://www.epa.gov/japan2011/rert/radnet-sampling-data.html. One of the locations for which results were posted was Richmond, California. For the precipitation sample collected on 4/14/2011, the following radionuclides were detected: Cs-134 (8.9 pCi/l), Cs-137 (7.9 pCi/l), and I-131 (5.9 pCi/l). For prior precipitation results that were posted on 4/10/2011 for a sample that was collected on 03/28/2011, no radionuclides were detected.

It did not rain on campus

It did not rain on campus between March 28 and April 5, or between April 7 and 11...

As stated previously, we are a bit behind, but I can guarantee that we will not be fabricating rainwater data when we have not received any rain.

Tim [BRAWM Team Member]

Thank you for not

Thank you for not fabricating data, Tim. :)

Please tell us when we might expect to see the results from the rain sample collected on the 18th? Thanks again!

they have a limited number

they have a limited number of bays, sure, but doesn't anybody else notice that there have been fewer and fewer updates this month compared to last month?

if it was possible to test rain water every day a month ago, how does it make sense that they have only tested twice this month?

furthermore, all of the food chain results are from the beginning of the month!

i can't find any test results from the last 2 weeks for anything... so what are those bays testing and why does it suddenly take over 2 weeks to do a test when they were posting daily results a month ago?

or is some giant data set about to be released with all the numbers for the last 3 weeks? if so i would suggest that the public would benefit from more frequent updates even if only for a small number of tests.

2 weeks with no results just seems very odd to me considering the frequent updates we were getting last month.

local rainfall

I live 25 miles south of Berkeley. We haven't had much rain lately, if any. A month ago we had rain for many days in a row. My guess is there simply hasn't been much rain for them to test, relative to how much rainfall we had in March.

I, too, would like to see more recent data postings for other things, however.

Yes, Dr. Chivers said there

Yes, Dr. Chivers said there is a backlog that needs to be posted.

New air and tap water

New air and tap water results were posted today. As stated: as the radiation decreases they have to double or quadruple the testing time to get accuate counts and MDAs.

Don't be an ---hole. The

Don't be an ---hole. The BRAWM folks have said they only have a limited number of bays to test items and the list is growing. Not only that, but as the radiation gets lessened, the items need to be measured longer to be more accurate.

Your attitude has no place here, as BRAWM is doing a great public service and sometimes we have to be patient for the data.

I totally agree....

I totally agree....

Seconded, thirded, whatever... [nt]

Rick.

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Does it rain everyday?It did where I am but I have not studied Berklys weather.

there were at least 5 days

there were at least 5 days with rain in the bay area in the last 2 weeks alone.

i have to work outdoors in the rain and i am not trying to be an asshole, but seriously - what happened to the rain water testing?

again - there were daily rainwater test results posted last month!

the suggestion that they could only test 2 days out of this entire month is simply not credible.

if they do not want to show us the results then it is up to us to guess why that might be.

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panties=twist

One of the BRAWM team members posted that most of the 'BRAWM Team Members' are out of the area and would be returning soon, hence new reports/results will be posted soon.

Please let me know what kind of guess you end up with, then we can compare notes with one another while watching a very small amount of local Tellurium-128 decay, and of course wait for the cows to come home before I have to tune into Alex Jones for the day.

Thank you for understanding (and Thanks for All the Fish)!

Okay... Really trying not to lose my temper, here.

Some things to consider:

[1] Although "the bay area" (a pretty sizable piece of real estate, mind you) may well have experienced "at least 5 days with rain..in the last 2 weeks alone", the BRAWM team are clearly drawing samples from a SINGLE location, that I believe is on the UCB campus. This is entirely appropriate to maintain sample consistency and establish some sort of baseline. That single location may not have received significant rainfall all five times during that period... Showers are fickle.

[2] I would be willing to bet that, in order to achieve detectable, reliable results, a certain minimum of precipitation must be received and considered useful for testing. Even if BRAWM's rainwater receptacle did experience rain on all five of those occasions, it's possible that not every rainfall resulted in amounts large enough for useful / reliable measuring to occur.

[3] Even I, a Texan a thousand miles away from Berkeley, know that their seasonal precipitation generally undergoes drastic changes between mid-March and late April. As has been remarked by non-UBC folks on this board who live in that area, the "rainy season" either has recently ended, or is nearing its conclusion. Hence, there may well be fewer and fewer opportunities over the coming weeks and months for the BRAWM team to collect adequate precipitation for useful testing to occur.

[4] As to your assertion that "only...2 days [of rainwater testing] out of this entire month is simply not credible"... I would really, really, really like to know what the BRAWM team has ever done to make ANYONE familiar with their consistent and diligent efforts, question their credibility / honesty.

[5] This comment -- "if they do not want to show us the results then it is up to us to guess why that might be" -- is just about the most insipid thing I have read online since the ongoing Japan nuclear emergency began, and that's really, REALLY saying something, partner. Now, I'm as much a consumer of conspiracy theories as anyone in these ridiculous days, but this is really pushing it. BRAWM has NEVER shied away from communicating news, even (especially!) unwelcome news. They've pointed out, repeatedly, that although atmospheric and rainfall concentrations continue to decline to near-undetectability, and iodine isotopes are clearly on the wane, cesium continues to build in milk and several food chain products. If there's any "gatekeeping" of data going on, here, I certainly can't detect it, and I'm pretty on-guard for it, having seen it pretty much CONSTANTLY out of TEPCO, JAIF, NISA, the IAEA, and the government of Japan (and, I would argue, the U.S. Government also).

So -- go ahead and interpret BRAWM's strict fidelity to exacting scientific standards, procedural discipline and rigorous double- and triple- (and more) checking as evidence of conspiracy, if you like -- it's a free, lightly irradiated country, after all. But be aware: BRAWM / UCBNE has been, without EXCEPTION, THE most forthcoming, reliable, and discerning source of ANY information regarding Fukushima since the crisis began, and you might want to learn something that every farm animal knows instinctively: Best not to crap where you eat.

If you're looking for bad guys in all this, you can do a heckuva lot better than BRAWM, is all I'm sayin'. They are, MANIFESTLY, wearing white hats, and it frustrates me that you can't or won't see that, yourself.

Say howdy to Oliver Stone, Art Bell and Charlie Frost for me.

Rick.

it rained 5 times in north

it rained 5 times in north oakland - which is about a mile from UCB - so yes, it also rained in berkeley at least 5 times. i am not a conspiracy theorist. It has been proven over and over again that you should not trust ANYTHING the government or corporate owned news media tells you. they lie. only In this case they are telling us nothing. The silence has been deafening. We know that TEPCO has lied and downplayed every step of the way. Thanks to my excellent UC Berkeley education in critical thinking I absolutely expected they would do so.

All you people who believe everything you are told and get so angry if somebody dare suggest that things seem a little suspicious - well - i am sure you must be thrilled that we finally got Osama, eh?

UPDATE:

This was mentioned by Dr. Chivers (I believe) a couple days back, but it's just been posted in the Monitoring section, and I thought it bore timely highlighting in this thread:

"4/25 (7:25pm): Due to the fact that our measured levels in our air samples are approaching our minimum detectable amount we have transitioned from 24 hour sampling periods to 48-72 hour sampling periods. This will allow us to more accurately measure the decreasing levels. This also means that there will be a longer delay between postings. In addition the majority of the BRAWM team is at a conference this week which may add to the delay. We continue to monitor the levels in air, water, milk and the food chain closely."

So -- don't freak. BRAWM's going to take more time to ensure accuracy and so that they can keep good track of ever-more-minuscule results. Also bear in mind that the UCBNE department will be short-staffed this week due to some conference or other. Hopefully nothing major will "blow up" -- poor choice of words, probably -- this week over in Japan, so the expected delays (if any) in reporting will be of no real impact, except that we're going to have to be a little more patient.

Everyone take a deep breath. Across all manner of reporting, from BRAWM to JAIF to the EPA, it looks like currently detectable emissions are about 1-2% of their peak. This is GOOD news, folks. Let's just pray that there are no more setbacks, surprises, accidents, human failings, or acts of God.

Rick.