Posted by Bill: Why so quiet today and where are Rainwater reports? the Silence is deafening...

The problems with Fukushima are far from over, the media is overly quiet and I notice the last 3 days of no mention of Fukushima on the radio or TV. Only the Internet gives access to important replays of less mainstream media such as was posted here, including an interview with famous physicist, Michio Kaku whose relatives in Tokyo have already voluntarily self evacuated from Japan completely which is a big statement on the reality of the situation along with Kaku's evaluation that Fukushima will take as long as 10 years to be resolved with the first year being the one where stopping the continuous release will be the first step to the lengthy process.
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/no-japans-nuclear-reactors-are-not-stable
No, Japan's Nuclear Reactors Are Not "Stable"
Submitted by George Washington on 04/13/2011 15:33 -0400
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The Japanese government and Tepco claim that the nuclear reactors are "stable" and that radiation releases have subsided to low levels.
But world renowned physicist Michio Kaku - who studied under atom bomb developer Edward Teller - told Democracy Now today:
Tokyo Electric has been in denial, trying to downplay the full impact of this nuclear accident. However, there’s a formula, a mathematical formula, by which you can determine what level this accident is. This accident has already released something on the order of 50,000 trillion becquerels of radiation. You do the math. That puts it right smack in the middle of a level 7 nuclear accident. Still, less than Chernobyl. However, radiation is continuing to leak out of the reactors. The situation is not stable at all. So, you’re looking at basically a ticking time bomb. It appears stable, but the slightest disturbance—a secondary earthquake, a pipe break, evacuation of the crew at Fukushima—could set off a full-scale meltdown at three nuclear power stations, far beyond what we saw at Chernobyl.
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When the utility says that things are stable, it’s only stable in the sense that you’re dangling from a cliff hanging by your fingernails. And as the time goes by, each fingernail starts to crack. That’s the situation now.
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TEPCO is like the little Dutch boy. All of a sudden we have cracks in the dike. You put a finger here, you put a finger there. And all of a sudden, new leaks start to occur, and they’re overwhelmed.
I suggest that they be removed from leadership entirely and be put as consultants. An international team of top physicists and engineers should take over
I suggested the same thing with regards to BP during the Gulf oil spill.
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by ZerOhead
on Wed, 04/13/2011 - 16:18
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Not good news.
When world renowned physicist Michio Kaku tells us his relatives are considering evacuating Tokyo... well... figure it out for yourself.
We are perhaps several years from the point in time that a Chernobyl-like sarcophagus 'solution' can be implemented... plus at any time things could go 'nuclear'.
Time for some outside of the box ideas.
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by flattrader
on Wed, 04/13/2011 - 16:25
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And what's coming out of Kan is frankly just schizo--
[He's now admitted to an "uninhabitable" area...which will no doubt expand as the reactors fail to stabilize and the winds change. How long before Toyota, Nissan, Sony and chip fab plants get engulfed?]
Wednesday, April 13, 2011
Japan's Prime Minister Kan: "Evacuation Zone Will Be Uninhabitable"
According to Yomiuri, that's what Kan said to one of his special advisors Kenichi Matsumoto:
Talking about the evacuation zone around the Fukushima I Nuclear Power Plant, Kan said "It will be uninhabitable for a while. For 10 years, maybe 20 years," Matsumoto disclosed to the press.
Tuesday, April 12, 2011
#TEPCO's President to Hold Press Conference at 3PM JST
In the press conference of Prime Minister Kan on April 12 (in Japanese), Kan outlined his plan for "recovery and rebuilding" after the earthquake/tsunami on a 1 month (and a day) anniversary of the March 11 earthquake/tsunami; while he did mention the Fukushima I Nuke Plant, it was in the context of "stabilization". He said the government is waiting for TEPCO to submit the prospect of how the whole situation may be resolved. (Good luck with that.)
He concluded his speech by asking the citizens to "buy goods produced in the affected areas, use them, or eat them, and enjoy" so that Japan recovers.
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by ZerOhead
on Wed, 04/13/2011 - 16:47
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The stakes for Japan are simply enormous. Any attempt to protect the populace by increasing the evacuation zone radius (as proposed by numerous international agencies) also serves to bring pressures on Tokyo and the productive heartland of the nation. And just where the hell can you evacuate millions of citizens to?
Denial of the magnitude of the situation at hand and praying for favorable winds and a yet to be identified solution is his only option.
I would however like to see all members of the Diet (including their families) eat and enjoy the same produce they profess is safe for others.
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by TJW
on Wed, 04/13/2011 - 18:00
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"Denial of the magnitude of the situation at hand and praying for favorable winds and a yet to be identified solution is his only option."
Sounds like the way US politicians are dealing with our fiscal disaster.
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by Bicycle Repairman
on Thu, 04/14/2011 - 06:45
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Which in turn is how the Japanese dealt with their economic crisis.
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by Buck Johnson
on Wed, 04/13/2011 - 20:22
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And that is the 64,000 dollar question, where do you evacuate people too? In fact if my predictions are correct and if 1/3 to 2/3 of Japan becomes uninhabitable, these people may try to get to Australia and New Zealand. I love Michiu, but he left out the nastier radiation particles that will stay for years if not thousands of year. And that is Cesium-137 (30 years), strontium (28 years), and Plutonium-239 and 241 (24,100 years).
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by melvynny
on Wed, 04/13/2011 - 18:11
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Kan trumps Bush's stupidity. On 9/12/01, our president proclaimed the WTC neighborhood was pollution free--everyone go home and open the NYSE. In a couple of weeks, I expect Kan to prove his Bushiness--to blame the Tsunami on terrorists.
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by HedgeCock
on Wed, 04/13/2011 - 16:59
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Yeah, the part that really stuck out for me too was Kaku saying that some of his relatives that have little children have already evacuated from Tokyo. If that isn't telling then I don't know what is.
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by InconvenientCou...
on Wed, 04/13/2011 - 17:19
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Japan had a well documented demographic problem before this disaster. I don't think any pregnant woman will be within 100 miles of the plant and that puts Tokyo in play.
Japan is on the verge of failing as a soverign.

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Lifestyle changes
Submitted by CME (not verified) on Fri, 2011-04-15 04:33.
Great thread-thanks for starting it (and as usual Rick gave his gold-minted opinions). I was able to buy powdered milk and some condensed, and currently using the non-fat powder since it is natural. I live in CA also and in my experience, most stores carry produce from Mexico and SA year round since they grow "summer" items in our winter, and because they are cheaper than US foods (but I go to local stores vs chains). So, I'm trying to buy as much as possible from down south, and whatever I can't, well, I try to minimize the green leafy ones, etc. Cheese being famously produced in Europe is another option, and I also heard that you can freeze it for 80 days to allow the iodine to disappear, but while this will work for the above, what about cesium etal?. Regarding meats, one can either stock up on a side of beef and freeze it, or buy salami and other aged meats since they won't yet contain radionuclides. It is tragically ironic that we have to protect our families with limiting our intake of fresh, wholesome, delicious foods and drinks, because these very same are what made us happy, healthy and strong! This is why the USA populace should be screaming now in front of every city hall and the White House to destroy the illusionary denials of our leaders and demand reality! But we'll get through this somehow and pick up again in the near future.

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[Snort!] Thanks, CME...
Submitted by R. Cromack (not verified) on Fri, 2011-04-15 04:42.
..."Gold-minted"... Wow. Seriously, nothing could be further from the truth. IF I have ANYTHING worthy to contribute here, it's my dogged (obsessive) pursuit of information and meaning... And you know, I'm not all that successful at that, really. And, I suppose, my transparency, which is every bit as much a curse as it ever could be a blessing.
It's times like these I wish there was such a thing as powdered water... Oh, wait. Just add water? Nevermind. (Sorry -- old submariner's joke.)
But, anyway, thanks. I think this is an excellent topic for a thread, too, btw. I am eager to see everyone's thoughts / suggestions.
Perhaps as we find specific "good" / recommended products, we could post those...? Every little bit helps.
Rick Cromack.
Allen, Texas
RichardFCromackJr@gmail.com

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Food freak forum
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 2011-04-15 05:52.
Yes, any suggestions are great. I cannot find a group of people willing to talk about this, and this forum is the best outlet right now for us food freaks.
If anyone else has ideas, I'd love to find out where and what brands you're purchasing -- it's a lot easier to get recommendations here and make a list than it is to walk around for hours in the grocery store and scrutinize every label for location and package date.
It seems we're all students in a class with no teacher right now. And it's nice to know I'm not the only one thinking about this stuff.

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One thing I found out this week...
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 2011-04-15 03:29.
is that when it says "distributed by XX" on the package, it DOES NOT mean that it was grown/produced in that particular area. For instance, Horizon Organic milk says "distributed by horizon organic, broomfield CO" but if you live in CA it is actually produced by dairy farmers in CA, and that is not stated anywhere on the carton. The only way you can tell where it ACTUALLY comes from is calling/emailing the company with the product code and they can tell you what region it comes from. I wonder if this applies to other similarly labeled products.
I am paranoid too -- I know I looked like I was standing in front of the milk case at Costco tonight. I tried switching my son to soy milk, almond milk and coconut milk and he will have absolutely nothing to do with it, so my milk dilemma persists.

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For whatever it's worth...
Submitted by R. Cromack (not verified) on Fri, 2011-04-15 03:10.
...We're doing a lot of our fruit shopping at Sam's Club. Many of their products are labelled as being imported from South America.
We also bought a case of canned mushrooms recently.
We're looking at stocking up on meats and non-dairy dairy substitutes.
We're not buying ANY fish right now, including shrimp, crabs, mussels, clams,etc.
We're trying to purchase distilled, vapor distilled, reverse-osmosis, and spring-sourced bottled water.
We're also considering cutting back significantly on our meals "out", though with our schedule, that's going to be really, really hard; we're used to eating out a good fifteen to twenty meals per week.
It will indeed drive one crazy.
Rick Cromack.
Allen, Texas
RichardFCromackJr@gmail.com

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Thanks Rick
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 2011-04-15 04:00.
I'll check Costco to see if they have more imported items. Thus far everything seems to be grown in CA, especially if you LIVE in CA. I guess they don't like to send stuff over the mountains from farther east. Finding an imported fresh fruit/vegetable item is like finding a needle in a haystack at our Costco.
We're not eating fish either and probably will not for some time to come.
And yes it is driving me crazy - but that's due to my type A personality. I am interested in hearing what other type A's are doing about this issue too. Right now I feel like the only one concerned about this, except for those on this forum. I'm too afraid to talk about the radiation/food subject with friends, because most of them 1)don't know what is going on or 2)just don't care.

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For those of you in
Submitted by Shari (not verified) on Fri, 2011-04-15 16:37.
For those of you in California, Safeway has bananas from Ecuador @ 79 cents a pound, and red seedless grapes from Chile on sale for 99 cents a pound (through Tuesday 04-19.
I'm not buying any fish, farmed or otherwise; and am concerned about all dairy products. The dogs are still getting Sonoma County Goat Milk yogurt. Haven't decided if more will be bought when what is on hand is gone.
Many people are concerned about food, not just those of us monitoring this list.

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You're Welcome.
Submitted by R. Cromack (not verified) on Fri, 2011-04-15 04:44.
...And, you know, I'm a Type A, too.
Rick Cromack.
Allen, Texas
RichardFCromackJr@gmail.com

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Go Online and TJs
Submitted by T.O. Mom (not verified) on Fri, 2011-04-15 04:31.
Hello,
I live in Southern California and I have been able to find fruit from Puerto Rico (ie., pineapples) and mangoes and papayas from Peru at my local Trader Joes. You might also try markets that sell foods from other countries - they may have more of a variety of fruits there. Costco has packaged fruits and vegetables (organics and conventional) from Bybee Foods (www.bybeefoods.com). I think they package their items two years prior to the sell by date, but check with them to make sure.
For fish, go online. Most should have been packaged last season. The same goes for poultry and meat. I called one vendor in Northern California, and their stock consists of meat and poultry packaged prior to March. Your local store may be carrying ham and turkey that has been packaged prior to March. Most vendors readied their items for Passover and Easter meals.
It's costing alot to stock up, and we are doing it a little bit at a time, as we can afford it, but it is lowering my anxiety level. I know my family can survive if I-131 was the only ubiquitous radioactive isotope in our environment, but I don't know what to do about the Cesium. After researching other websites, it's not clear to me if just peeling the outside of an orange, apple, avocado, or any other fruit or vegetable for that matter will keep one from ingesting cesium. If anyone has information on this, I'd appreciate a post. Thank you.

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Can you tell us the
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 2011-04-15 12:49.
Can you tell us the brands/companies/vendors please?

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Check my Milk and Yogurt Post
Submitted by T.O. Mom (not verified) on Fri, 2011-04-15 18:11.
Hello,
I've posted brand names under the Milk and Yogurt posts, subject: Specifics. Forgot to put my name on it, so I'm listed as Anonymous.

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Have been drinking bottled
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 2011-04-15 03:17.
Have been drinking bottled water from just a few days after the event. Will continue to drink reverse osmosis water when our stash runs out.
We stopped eating leafy greens and milk and yogurt. We continue to buy cheese since some of them are aged over a year.
I will not buy any fruit or veggies from the US, but i'm paranoid.

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strange diet now
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 2011-04-15 14:05.
my diet used to consist of greens and other vegs, usually in salads or juices, and soups and stews from foot vegs. i did use milk in coffee and tea, and raw honey in tea and sometimes in salad dressings. i had given up fish, and do not eat meat, but eat eggs.
now, i am using non dairy creamer, which looks like all chemicals with no actual food in it. the opposite of healthful.
i added cheese, as its pre-radiation for now.
i eat canned soups, which have bisphenol-A and phthalates in the can liners, made worse if there is acid, like tomato in the food.i used to insist on glass containers, but there is no soup in glass containers.
i still use honey, but will have to stop that too when the crop is new, i suppose.
i have well water, which i think is fine for now.
i use a powdered drink called blender culture, and its good for counteracting radioactivity, i think, due to its ingredients, and those were harvested pre fukushima.
i should stop eggs now, i imagine.
when i consider how unhealthy my diet is now, especially with the added chemicals, i wonder if continuing blender culture, plus supplements, and going back to fresh vegs that are well washed will be a better idea than canned food, or even frozen, as the properties in vegs do help to fight radiation, i read.
but the milk vs non dairy creamer? i would just have to drink plain coffee and tea.
for now, i am busy showering, including after collecting the mail, as it rains here so much. A

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typo
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 2011-04-15 14:07.
root vegetables

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Thanks for the reply
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 2011-04-15 03:53.
Do you filter your own water to get reverse osmosis water? I'm not familiar with it. Also, are the cheeses labeled if they are aged?

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No the grocery store has a
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 2011-04-16 04:53.
No the grocery store has a water station where you can fill up on this filtered water. Some cheeses advertise how long they have been aged, I don't think it is required. Some of the expensive cheese says its aged over 2 years. It's a bit strong though,.

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We have been drinking lots
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 2011-04-15 04:54.
We have been drinking lots of wine. It was made before the disaster and it helps us not to worry so much about the radiation.

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Reverse Osmosis
Submitted by T.O. Mom (not verified) on Fri, 2011-04-15 04:54.
Try Everpure. You can go online and research their products. They are NSF approved and a high quality vendor, in my experience. We have a whole house filter and reverse osmosis for the sink.

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T.O., Would You Mind Telling Me...
Submitted by R. Cromack (not verified) on Fri, 2011-04-15 05:23.
[1] What that whole house filter cost you?
[2] What brand it is?
[3] How often the filter requires replacing?
Thanks SO much, partner, in advance...
Rick Cromack.
Allen, Texas
RichardFCromackJr@gmail.com

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RO system
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 2011-04-15 06:14.
Mine is a Radiant Life and I think it cost about $1500. Filter needs to be changed about every other year. It's very expensive but does give me a lot of piece of mind (15stages of filtration I think).

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Oooh... Ouch. That's more than I can do...
Submitted by R. Cromack (not verified) on Fri, 2011-04-15 06:21.
...For the moment, anyway. Was looking at $750 - $1000, max.
What can you tell me about Everpure? (If anything...)
Thanks for the info...
Rick Cromack.
Allen, Texas
RichardFCromackJr@gmail.com

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Sorry, Meant to Say, "Model", not "Brand"...
Submitted by R. Cromack (not verified) on Fri, 2011-04-15 05:33.
...I'm looking at the Everpure ROM III. Any thoughts?
Thanks again,
Rick Cromack.
Allen, Texas
RichardFCromackJr@gmail.com

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That's what we have. We had
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 2011-04-15 15:00.
That's what we have. We had it installed a few years back for the chlorine, fluoride and what not. It does come in handy, but it is very overpriced and the refills are super expensive, so that's a major consideration, not just the first installation. So call any dealers that sell RO filters and talk to them about different systems, and then decide for yourself what will suit you better in terms of cost. RO filter does remove radiation, whoever produces it.

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-Off my menu: All seafood. I'm culinarily frustrated and will miss all kinds such as Anchovies on Pizza, Red Snapper, Crab, Flounder, Salmon, Fake crab (made with Pollock, an ocean fish), Abalone, Squid (used to make Calamari), Sea Bass, Shrimp, Seaweeds, Tuna etc...