Question about that strange silver/grey cloud in March
I noted that 2 other folks in the forum mentioned it.
I certainly noticed it here in Monterey. It was the strangest cloud I'd ever seen. I'm a scientist and am not quick to jump to strange conclusions, but the sky was clear and that strange cloud was anomalous to anything I'd ever seen. Yes, I know I sound like some nut job--I almost feel as if I belong in a UFO club or something--but I know what I saw, and I know that it was not normal. Thanks.
Not just California. The
Not just California. The Gulf of Mexico.
Where in the gulf of mexico
Where in the gulf of mexico are you and what did you see or notice?
Add two more to the list who
Add two more to the list who saw an unusual sky. It wasn't fog, smog, rain clouds, or like anything else we'd witnessed.
And we smelled a metallic odor.
History will show that we were all absolutely correct.
Nuclear Skies?
Around March 20th we could smell and taste a mettalic quality in the air. Husband's father is WWII Vet in his 90's, Aunts and Uncles are in their late 80's . All family members are healthy and active and recall the grayness and odd quality of the skies following the nuclear testing in the Marshall Islands from 1946 to 1958 along with the phrase 'Nuclear Skies' coined during that time. A Navy Captain who shared this info. during Vietnam also called such skies by the same name mentioning that weather patterns changed after the testing.
Apparently prior to the soiling of the atmosphere the skies, if they had 'gray days,' had a different hue to them than that brought by nuclear testing and which remains there along with products of industry and military to this day. If you know of any WWII Veterans or people over the age of 80, ask them about the term 'Nuclear Skies!'
PS: Jet setting is not so glamorous anymore either, some of the radiation received is not cosmic but remnants of nuclear pollution. Also, every one of us has Plutonium in our pee! Don't believe me? Key in the words 'Marshall Islands Plutonium urinalysis' in any search engine.
-Off my menu: All Seafoods because the oceans really are a military and industrial sewer! Yes, I will miss Anchovies on my pizza, fishsticks, red snapper, crab, fake crab (made with Pollock, an ocean fish), clam chowder etc...
Nuclear Skies?
Around March 20th we could smell and taste a mettalic quality in the air. Husband's father is WWII Vet in his 90's, Aunts and Uncles are in their late 80's . All family members are healthy and active and recall the grayness and odd quality of the skies following the nuclear testing in the Marshall Islands from 1946 to 1958 along with the phrase 'Nuclear Skies' coined during that time. A Navy Captain who shared this info. during Vietnam also called such skies by the same name mentioning that weather patterns changed after the testing.
Apparently prior to the soiling of the atmosphere the skies, if they had 'gray days,' had a different hue to them than that brought by nuclear testing and which remains there along with products of industry and military to this day. If you know of any WWII Veterans or people over the age of 80, ask them about the term 'Nuclear Skies!'
PS: Jet setting is not so glamorous anymore either, some of the radiation received is not cosmic but remnants of nuclear pollution. Also, every one of us has Plutonium in our pee! Don't believe me? Key in the words 'Marshall Islands Plutonium urinalysis' in any search engine.
-Off my menu: All Seafoods because the oceans really are a military and industrial sewer! Yes, I will miss Anchovies on my pizza, fishsticks, red snapper, crab, fake crab (made with Pollock, an ocean fish), clam chowder etc...
I am curious, where were you
I am curious, where were you located?
Geography, Jet Stream and Ocean currents
We live in Reno, NV at just over 5,000 feet. This means the jet stream that arcs upward into the northern latitudes bringing any unwanted materials freely passes us by. I feel sorry for states like Washington, Idaho and our northern neighbor, Canada who are truly getting alot more exposure than us whether or not it is reported!
Is it any wonder we had a few metallic 'smasting' air days following Fukushima's detonations?
-Off my menu: All Seafoods because the oceans really are a military and industrial sewer! Yes, I will miss Anchovies on my pizza, fishsticks, red snapper, crab, fake crab (made with Pollock, an ocean fish), clam chowder, Caviar etc... See: http://pstuph.wordpress.com/2011/04/01/can-ocean-currents-transport-radi...
Watch this video from Japan
Watch this video from Japan and you will see that there was a nuclear explosion. This could be the source of that cloud. Pay close attention to the 1:45 minute mark and turn up your volume so that you can get a feel of the shock wave. I wonder why we did not see this on the North American news stations?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3Hy2LV_lLo&feature=player_embedded
It is interesting that the two explosions from the Fukushima plant were classed as “hydrogen explosions” by the North American news stations. However, the two “explosions” were different; the first explosion was a white cloud busting upwards, which was likely the hydrogen explosion, which shot the nuclear fuel from the spent fuel rods from the pools into the air as the NY Times article states.
The second was a dark brownish-grey cloud that was most likely not an explosion at first, but from the start of a fire from the spent fuel rods losing water in the pools and starting to burn. What the North American media did not show was the aftermath explosion of that fire, which was likely a nuclear explosion of the reactor.
My Mistake
My mistake, the video was of the oil fire explosion. I saw the stacks and thought they were the nuke stacks at the plant. Thank you for your post titled "Not Nuclear", posted below, appreciated.
Not Nuclear
That fire and explosion was at an oil refinery in Ichihara, Chiba Prefecture, Japan. Which is about 42 driving miles from Tokyo. And
the fire was well before the reactors at Fukushima overheated. You
can see a different view in the following NHK/CNN report:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSRcaF03GEA
Seriously, you have to think about how massive the release would have
to be for clouds to look any different. All of the radiation measuring
equipment would be pegged and there would be no way for the govt. or
anyone else to cover it up. Scientists, doctors (especially cancer doctors), rogue EPA/FDA personnel, and of course lawyers would be coming
out of the woodwork screaming about it.
Given that I'm reading posts to this forum, it's obvious that I'm
concerned about these events. And I look at EVERYTHING differently now
(clouds, nuclear power, water, food, family, wildlife, career, etc.).
But, we need to be careful and not see "radiation" in everything we look
at. Such as seeing a "nuclear explosion" in what was obviously a fuel
(oil) fed fire. I've read a lot about Chernobyl lately. And one consistent
thing that's said is that the biggest impact from the Chernobyl accident
was psychological.
After 50 years, I've seen LOTS of silver/grey clouds in my life. I never
thought of radition when I saw them. But, now that the seed has been
planted in my mind..... :-)
"But, we need to be careful
"But, we need to be careful and not see "radiation" in everything we look
at."
Yes, agreed. I glanced at my bottled water on the counter yesterday and read "half life" when it actually read "half liter". I think we're all losing it at some level.
Ditto.
Ditto.
I saw the cloud over San
I saw the cloud over San Francisco. It was dense, thick. I wish I had taken a photo. The sunlight seems to have been intensified by the presence of the cloud. Another part of it was that I saw some black particles within that cloud that formed another cloud. I was so scared to my bones, I actually started crying. Just one more thing, when I was away from that mass of low lyging cloud, about 0.6 mile, the steering wheel of my car was so hot, I could not hold it. I looked at the thermostat in my car, it was only68 Degrees outside but the sun that fell through the cloud, seems to have heaten up my steering wheel so hot, that I could not hold it.
I also had pain in my lungs when I was within a 4 mile radius of that cloud.
Again, it looked like a nuclear"bomb" cloud, the sunlight made the cloud look shiny, huge, glowing, can'd describe it.
You could not see anything in the distance, it was not like a cloud it was more that your view was blocked by thick particles.
I will never forget this. In fact I left California 2 days later and I am now in florida, I am terrified to go back.
Also, I had a slight metallic taste in my mouth when I woke up that morning. which I never had before.
I pray to the Lord, that this was not a Plutonium/uranium cloud, but I know, deep in my heart, that this was not a xenon cloud. The cloud appeared metallic to me, it shined metallic when the sun light fell through.
Yes, Radnet monitoring showed an increase in most California cities from 50 to 100 CPM that weekend. Let us all pray that it was just Xenon.
I am still i Florida, do not know whether I can ever return to San Franccisco, after what I saw.
a 'nuclear cloud' (like you
a 'nuclear cloud' (like you claim) would produce million times more x 100CPM than you quote.
there could be many many reasons for dirty looking clouds, and there are great many possible contaminants in the rain, some much more dangerous than trace amounts of radionuclides.
consult your physician, there are ways to address unnecessary anxiety.
Amazing description, and I
Amazing description, and I believe you. Could you let us know if you ever in your life (even childhood) had any type of disorder in the chest/lung area? Thanks
can't agree with you more.
can't agree with you more. This cloud, deep in my heart, may have been highly radioactive. I saw it over San Francisco. To me, that cloud looked liked a nuclear bomb.
Cloud question
OK, I'll chime in. Long-time reader, rare poster. Located in the L.A. area.
That same weekend I kept telling my family, "Take a look outside, it looks odd." No particular clouds, but there was an unusual appearance to everything, like the light was scattered in a different way than normal. It looked like a grey winter day in the Midwest. I've lived here more than 30 years, and it never looked like that before.
The RADNET and Berkeley data shows upticks during those couple of days, so I imagine we were getting "special treatment."
I didnt see the cloud, but
I didnt see the cloud, but both my gf and I noticed the off color of the light on those days. We didn't say anything about it for three days because we both independently thought it was crazy at first.
Alex
I don't think you are
I don't think you are imagining things since I have heard about this cloud here before, and especially during these times when serious concerned people are dismissed from all corners, you have to take your impressions seriously (ie, people also reporting strange physical symptoms). Could you describe the cloud in more detail a)-all of the objective facts like size, shape,all the colors, what immediately change in the surrounding environment etc; b) your subjective impressions--such as what sensations you felt inside you, what your emotional feeling was before and after, etc. I have seen some very strange looking clouds before and I think they were noxious in some way, so you seeing this now would make sense.If you have a picture could you post it on Facebook--"banned by the IAEA"? thanks
this is ridiculous. a crazy
this is ridiculous. a crazy cloud looming all the way from sf to monterey bay, and not a single person shot a video or took a picture, including yourselves? i'm as paranoid as the next guy about fallout, and have been glued to my computer since mid-march, but this is just sillyness. take a photo next time.
You can not escape fallout.
You can not escape fallout. This garbage was in the air before japan, or chernobyl. If this cloud can travel across the pacific, why would it stop in cal. Unless you have a years worth of pre disaster food and water, running away won't work. There is a magic pill but its hard to get, unless you are a g.i. Get a good doctor, and stay healthy. Don't stress.
what pill are you refering
what pill are you refering to? Just curious.
Prussian Blue. It's an old
Prussian Blue. It's an old painting pigment made from hydrocyanide and iron oxide.
The strong bonds from the cyanide and iron readily accumulate heavy metals and turn them to salts which the body expells from urine.
I think he is talking about
I think he is talking about EX-rad.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19267542
my goodness, magic pills was
my goodness, magic pills was the only thing we yet lacked on this forum.
and now we have it! amen!
I always KNEW that the very rich had options that the rest of us
cannot get.
One argument that folks almost always raise with me when I discuss my perspective that the industry and government operators KNOW that operation of nuclar plants would kill many of us with cancer, hypothyroidism, endocrine disorders, damaged immune systems, birth defects, infant mortality (and hence will reduce populations, as eugenicists promote relentlessly from the Nazis to Standard Oil and the World Bank) -- the argument is that WHY would rich folks risk their own health and that of their children.
Well---
it seems that they know to take precautionary measures like iodine tablets etc and now we know they have (and may have had for years) this protective "magic pill".
This is a good find. Wish I had some to give my children.
I'd bet those who really know the risks (those in the industry and government) are taking such precautions and providing their loved ones with such prophylactics.
I know that this may sound off the wall, but I also know that experiments with radiation exposure and health consequences has been extensively studied from the Nazi medical experiments in the 1930's and 40's to the pharmaceutical industry and military globally.
There are those who know the consequences, I believe, and they also believe that there are too many people on the planet for them to maintain absolute control and maximize profit. Making the rest of us sick and weak or die off is BRILLIANT fascist strategy, especially when the corporate entities who control the industry and governments globally have access to the data and the "magic pills".
Carry on. Go in peace!
Thanks for this info!
Cost benefit analysis. Human
Cost benefit analysis. Human life is not worth much these days. Even if the big corporations get caught mass murdering us, they have money to buy their way out of it. Or they declare bankruptcy and our taxes bail them out. If they can make more money than it will cost them, to take your life, they will.
If you want money
If you want money to clean up this mess you must first change your definition. All but North Dakota are flunking on the State use of the banking business to derive revenue for the State and are still too stupid to not send their payments to Wall Street. www.businessinsider.com/restoring-economic-sovereignty-the-push-for-stat... All the States are flunking the test as to the very definition of What Is Money and are still too stupefied as to not rely on bankers and economists in determining what their monetary system should look like. First required reading material is this simple article: http://distributistreview.com/mag/2011/02/the-errors-of-the-economists-w... All the States are getting a failing grade in Monetary History as to not know that the Revolutionary War was not fought over taxes but over the very same kind of Debt Based Monetary System we have today that was making indentured servants of the colonists to the Monarchy and its banking system. The required first reading for this history class for every single politician and concerned citizen is this paper by Richard Kotlarz: http://economictree.org/Iraq_Am_Revolution.html#t16 Every single State and its people are getting failing grades in basic math as to not know that when using a Debt Based Monetary System every single dollar in circulation is actually a Debt instrument and that growth of the economy can only produce More Debt. The simple video series “Money As Debt” should be required material for every class of every school and for every single legislative body in the country. There is also not one State that is getting a passing grade in sociology and the study of the locus of power in political science class to not know that the handing over of the Sovereign Power to define, issue, and control the money supply to a Private International Cartel of Bankers is the height of treason and an abandonment of the very independence fought for and won in the Revolutionary War and fought for again by Presidents Jackson, Lincoln, and Kennedy. The above cited paper by Kotlarz and other materials by monetary historians Stephen Zarlenga, Ellen Brown, Paul Grignon, and others are required for the people to re-gain a sense of their Sovereignty and their true independence if they wish to also re-gain their status as Free People. No State is getting a passing grade as regards the solutions they are proposing by focusing on the spending side of government while not addressing the very Debt Basis of the Currency itself. Again, this is due to their mistaken notions as to What Is Money, where it originates, what is real value in a Free Enterprise System, what is the role of money in a True Free Enterprise System, and what is the role of government as it relates to defining and issuing and controlling the money supply. It should be apparent that when a country has the sense to use the language of something called “the money supply” but then not get it that these words specifically relate to the fact that this thing called money is just a tool that needs to be “supplied” in order that the real economy can run then these people have truly either lost their own history, given up their sovereignty, become ignorant of very basic concepts of economic and social life or perhaps all of the above.
There are those who have proposed legislation to remedy the situation. These proposals and others need to be introduced to every legislative body in the country. www.concordresolution.org/article.htm and www.monetary.org/kucinichchristmasmiracle.html
There is a reason Usury is outlawed by every religious tradition on the planet. It is time that the Churches, Temples, Mosques, and other religious Halls resonate with one voice against the tyranny of Usury and give their people clear understandings of the definition of and effects of Usury when the very Money Supply itself is Based in Debt. It should be preached from every pulpit that when currency is issued as bonds the people are in Bondage!
well said
well said
They are ChemTrails
Watching them since before December. They create lattice patterns with chemical discharge comprised of nano particles - Aluminium, Strontium, Barium to create ability geo-engineer the weather and more. My research including patents, scientific articles, journals, google books to older texts on key terms search all confirms. While this has been onging in the US in other states, this has started here only in the past few years and just this December very heavy dispersion almost every single day. The lack of blue skies and the hatch clouds and long streaks as well as the torsion funnels seen today around 3:00 over the SF Bay are all a result of this technology and no it is not good for our health.
They are laying chemtrails
They are laying chemtrails right now. Look up.
I live in Monterey bay area
I live in Monterey bay area and I saw the same cloud early in the morning.
Following the unknown airplane, a long thick line of cloud was made. Is this a chemtrail? It does not go away right away. It is spread and it stays in the sky after several hours. What's inside in it, if it is an artificial cloud and for what purpose?
you are laying chemtrails?
you are laying chemtrails? for what? For the plume to disperse or for farmers?
Dark clouds are on the way.
Dark clouds are on the way.