Noble work, but perhaps a conflict of interest.

First, I want to say thank you to all the team members for putting this research together. This site is without a doubt, the most comprehensive source of current and understandable radiation data in the country right now.

However, I got to thinking that there's an inherent conflict of interest here. One would assume that anyone who enters the field of nuclear engineering has the hopes of finding a job in some capacity, within the industry. Whether as a producer or a regulator, the existence of the industry itself is essential to your livelihood.

This is why I have a problem with the airline flight analogy. As has been posted many times before, we're talking about surface radiation in the sky. With milk, we're talking about ingested radiation that continues to fester, around the clock. That's why the EPA has set a limit of 3 pCi/L for tap water.

When you consider that the levels in fresh milk (and babies drink almost all milk and no tap water), are six times the max level radiation for tap water, that's truly alarming. When you add in the fact that the nuclear industry heavily lobbies the EPA to keep those levels as liberal as possible, it's scarier still.

So, based on what you all are posting, I have to say, there has to be an air of suspicion. Regardless, I must admit you're doing something truly noble, and as a Berekely alumnus, it makes me proud. Please keep it up!

One question...Are there really any aspiring nuclear engineers who go to school in the hopes of learning enough to bring the industry to its knees? That would be truly remarkable, but I'd be shocked to find out that there's a single one.

With massive respect for the

With massive respect for the scientists who are providing this data to us, the truth is still sad. The sponsors of the team are even worse than 'da industry' ... it's 'da dee ayche ess' ...

As a UCB graduate, I can say I did learn something there. There is "science" and then there is "scientific orthodoxy." In order to work at a major university, you have to embrace the latter while eschewing the former.

I am so glad that this data is available, but that doesn't mean I trust it - or any other non-1st-hand data - completely.

Remember when the reactors exploded? The first one was a white explosion. The second one was a brown explosion. Anyone who knows, knows that hydrogen explosions are white. So, no matter how many times they repeated the 'big lie' about the second explosion, the only way to understand something close to the truth was to rely on one's own knowledge integrated with the data available.

Good luck.
Alex

oh well

I don't know about the Department of Nuclear Engineering, but I have know and have known several science professors and work with many UCB graduate students and there was absolutely no taint of any funding in their work.

Hi Alex - I've been curious

Hi Alex - I've been curious as I've read others bring up the hydrogen...Is it hydrogen sulfide? If so, please excuse my ignorance, would that cause a sulfury odor in the air?

And also, what would be in the brown explosion?

Thank you.

Not sure what would be

Not sure what would be causing a sulfury odor... you might want to google 'yellow rain' to learn about what happened after both Chernobyl and Fukushima.

Exploding uranium would be brown... so would a lot of other things... but it wasn't a hydrogen explosion.

well

It seems they are still on the west coast themselves, so we can draw some comfort from that. If they abandon ship and flee to Australia, we should be worried. I used to live right at the North Gate of campus. I trust the integrity of Berkeley scientists. :) Go Bears!

D.Chivers ain't in California

Actually, D.Chivers is not on the West Coast. It is 11:33 here and there is a post on the forum or two previous to this that says it was posted on Friday 4/15 at 2:33. Well, it is 11:33 p.m. on Thursday 4/15 as I type here in California, which would place D.Chivers somewhere in Eastern Standard Time.

Hmmm, interesting. I'm

Hmmm, interesting. I'm sitting in my living room here in the Bay Area...I notice this post time stamped 07:13, interesting. Don't know why this is.

An interesting point, but

An interesting point, but actually our website runs on Coordinated Universal Time. The location of a poster will not affect the time zone as it appears on this page.

Tim [BRAWM Team Member]

This looks like a nuclear

This looks like a nuclear explosion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3Hy2LV_lLo&feature=player_embedded

When you hear "flying in an airplane" just think "big lie". Problem solved.

This is the BIG ONE. But these little kiddies will all have jobs. 100 years of cleanup. They MIGHT even have little kiddies of their own.

No, it doesn't

Not even close.
Quite an impressive explosion, however.