BUMP: Trace Amount Studies/Research
Didn't get a response to this over the weekend--
Can you provide links to any studies supporting the statements that trace amounts of inhaled/ingested Iodine or Cesium aren't linked to health risks?
The only study I've seen on low level radiation/fallout was regarding children in Sweden in utero at time of Chernobyl, and there were measurable effects despite the low dose rate experienced in that country.
It seems that there's actually very little known about the effects of low level fallout exposure...
Thanks,
WH


Please refer to Dan's
Please refer to Dan's comment here: http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/node/2144#comment-469
It is difficult to measure health risks, i.e. cancer, caused by low levels of radiation dose. This is because the cancer rate is already quite high over any normal population. The effect of low levels of radiation is essentially not noticeable compared to the normal rate of cancer.
I don't have any papers or studies for this right now, maybe we'll try to put together some references soon.
Thanks Brian/more studies
Thanks Brian--appreciate the response.
I think for the average layperson (or at least me), something just doesn't seem healthy about ingesting radioactive particles that aren't normally present in the atmosphere. I guess comparisons to smoking a cigarette might seem more appropriate than to a cross country flight or a banana.
This uncertainty about exactly what the risk is (especially for expecting mothers and everyone with kids) makes it great that your team is providing all of this information and having a dialogue with members of the public--there really isn't a better place to turn for everyone here on the West Coast. Hope that you're not too frustrated with us as we know you guys are working really hard!
In any event, I've located a 2004 IRCP study regarding low doses of ionizing radiation (at http://www.icrp.org/docs/Low-dose_TG_rept_for_web.pdf) along with the previously cited Swedish Chernobyl fallout study at http://www.nber.org/~almond/revision_nov6.pdf) whose conclusion is at odds with the French study cited by Professor Chivers.
Also the Minnesota Department of Health has a publication (though not a study) regarding prenatal radiation exposure at http://www.health.state.mn.us/divs/eh/radiation/radioactive/prenatalexpo... --
"Exposure to any level of radiation is assumed to carry with it a certain amount of risk. In the absence of scientific certainty regarding the relationship between low dose exposure and health effects, the scientific community generally assumes that any exposure to ionizing radiation may cause undesirable biological effects. In addition, the assumption is that the likelihood of these effects increases as the dose increases."
Will post links to other research/studies as I come across them, but it seems that no one truly understands what the risks of this low level (but ongoing exposure) are other than that they're very small and slightly higher for people like my pregnant wife. We could all be in a much worse situation, like those suffering in Japan so I'll try to breathe a little bit easier tonight.
Please do keep up the good work though, particuarly so we can understand whatever the risks are from the air we continue to breathe and whatever Ce-137 was deposited here in California over the last two weeks.
Many thanks,
WH
another study
Here's a link to another study (http://www.pnl.gov/main/publications/external/technical_reports/PNNL-189... ) posted earlier today (http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/node/2177#comment-512) by a community member (Raj) regarding fetal thyroid-dose-conversion factors for I-131.
"Cancer risks attributable to low doses of ionizing radiation"
"Cancer risks attributable to low doses of ionizing radiation: Assessing what we really know" by David Brenner (a professor at Columbia - http://www.columbia.edu/~djb3/) is available online at http://www.pnas.org/content/100/24/13761.long --
ABSTRACT
"High doses of ionizing radiation clearly produce deleterious consequences in humans, including, but not exclusively, cancer induction. At very low radiation doses the situation is much less clear, but the risks of low-dose radiation are of societal importance in relation to issues as varied as screening tests for cancer, the future of nuclear power, occupational radiation exposure, frequent-flyer risks, manned space exploration, and radiological terrorism."
Brenner goes on to state that:
"[T]he fact that risks cannot be directly estimated at doses below, say, 5 mSv, does not imply any conclusion as to whether risks actually exist at these lower doses."
More studies re I-131 exposure in the United States...
Back in 1997 the National Cancer Institute released "Results of Nationwide Study of Radioactive Fallout from Nuclear Tests" that happened back in the 1950s. See http://rex.nci.nih.gov/massmedia/radioactivefallout.html
The study "revealed that as a result of U.S. nuclear tests conducted at the Nevada Test Site (NTS), American children were actually exposed to 15 to 70 times as much radiation as had been previously reported to Congress."
http://www.ieer.org/latest/iodnart.html
An Overivew of Epidemiological Studies (re ionizing radiation)
http://www.seri-us.org/sites/default/files/EpiOverview.pdf
Lack of studies?
Professor Chivers,
Doesn't the apparent lack of studies about the long term impact of low level radionuclide inhalation make it somewhat more difficult for you to have confidence in the conclusions you're drawing about our exposure in California.
As you know I'm a huge supporter of the project--just interested in seeing/reading the studies supporting your conclusions about our current exposure levels (other than the Swedish study finding an impact from low level Chernobyl fallout at levels previously considered safe).
This type of information would go a long ways towards your stated goal (from an earlier post) of "making sure that rationality prevails."
Many thanks,
WH
Add'l studies?
Have you had a chance to locate any additional studies on the effects of inhaling/ingesting low level radiation Brian? Some of the other study links seem troubling and to discount the insignificant health risk points--particularly if we start to see I-131 and Ce-137 in our milk, veggies etc due to the wet deposition over the past 2 weeks.
Thanks,
WH
2 Orders of Magnitude
Any comments regarding the European Committee on Radiation Risk's critque of the ICRP regarding INTERNAL radiation risk being underestimated?
http://www.nirs.org/reactorwatch/accidents/ecrrriskmodelandradiationfrom...
"[F]or certain internal exposures the risk model was insecure by 2 orders of magnitude."
See also: http://www.euradcom.org/2010/2010recommendations.htm
"Tondel’s findings of a statistically significant 11% increase in cancer per 100kBq/m2 Cs-137 contamination from Chernobyl are almost exactly predicted by the ECRR2003 model."
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I asked the same question. ECRR study says many more cancers
than the model used by the Berkeley project
Global fallout from man made nuclear pollution is estimated by this study (ECRR) in the tens of millions (and this INCLUDES nuclear power plant pollution) as well as many birth defects, spontaneous abortions, stilborn babies, etc.)
Frankly, I do not expect this team to be able to address or is tasked to assess the real risks involved and can stil greatly help those who ARE assessing risk by providing the raw data. But we are now simply guinea pigs in a global lethal dose test for radiation. The LD levels may take decades to become clearer, but the ECRR model says they are already clear in terms of certainty that mortality rates WILL rise from cancer and other radiation related diseases.
By downplaying the potential risk in our milk, drinking eater and air from Fukushima fallout, or by failing to accurately report or assess that risk based on multiple models for assessing risk (rather than one which has been challenged by credible scientific authorities, the Berkeley project may unwittingly be increasing the potential harm to us by dissuading us from taking rational precautionary measures (like refusing to drink tainted milk and produce because there is "so little risk")
tHE ECRR report deserves SOME consideration by the Berkeley group and a response to the public on why they may believe it isn't applicable.
That should read: "global fallout deaths in tens of millions"
from man made nuclear fallout (bombs, reactors, leaks, ongoing emissions from commercial reactors, etc.) since the "nuclear project" began some 70 years ago.
The ECRR study actually estimates global deaths at more than 60 million from cancer and other diseases caused by man made nuclear pollution.