Newly Posted Kaltofen APHA video
Worth watching - http://www.fairewinds.com/
There is some dialogue at the end about the risks of "whole body doses" vs "localized/hot-particle doses".
One thing I myself would like to point out is that there are ways of looking at the risk here without using any of the airplane ride/banana dose/background radiation analogies and comparisons, and that is to look at past events. For example, there is the fact that most of the Northern Hemisphere took a dusting of about 4kBq/m2 of Cs-137 (plus many other associated herbs and spices) during the 60's. We can look at that. Perhaps even a more telling example is the Chernobyl accident, where you can bet your bottom dollar that the emissions were very similar to this latest event, and use the LNT model to get some grip on what the risk might be. The "Toldem" study came to the conclusion that a deposition of Cs-137 in the 100kBq/m2 range was correlated with an 11% increase in cancer, and it is safe to assume that the level of "hot particles" associated with that event would be be the same proportionally as the Fukushima accident. This has been discussed here before at some length but it is worth repeating that these are not entirely uncharted waters and that you can make an estimation of risk without relying solely on the hotly contested modelling methods.
One more thing - I would like to throw out my own risk model - the "Winner Winner Chicken Dinner". Basically, maybe some people just breathe in an extra nasty piece of crud that hits the sweet spot and that's just it. Of course it's impossible to prove so I probably won't win the Nobel for coming up with it:).
BC 12/9


Suspicions
Well the facts speak volumes
1.epa testing was sparse go figure most monitoring stations broke where well PAC northwest( at hieght of plume)8of 18 I can't overlook this .
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-03-21/some-radiation-tracking-air-mon...
2.brawm equipment to measure alpha rads was not sensitive enough .correct if that's in accurate .
That's the only testing for alpha Ive read about on w coast.what u don't know can't be tracked , traced or correlated.
#1 is correct. I chalk this
#1 is correct. I chalk this up to complacency not conspiracy, however, I do call BS on the EPA not doing any real level of testing other that "keep calm everything is OK". It has also occurred to me that it is very easy to have a "legitimate" but still not honest test for an isotope. All one has to do is set the MDA high enough (probably by using a short count time) and nothing will be seen.
#2 is not totally right - BRWAM can see alpha, but not well, so their alpha testing was more to show that if indeed there are alpha emitters out there from Japan, well, there aren't many of them in Berkeley. Better than nothing for sure.
One thing to remember is that heavy stuff, the alpha emitters, are mostly going to stay close to the source . And also, while it is obvious to see that wherever you find Am-241 or Pu-239 you will also find loads of Cs-137, it IS NOT a for sure thing that wherever you find Cs-137 you will find Am-241 or Pu-239.
BC 12/11
Chernoble vs Fukushima daiichi
Winner Fukushima .well for the PAC northwest we win(surpassing chernoble deposition) !!! Wait this is a bad thing.playing level 7 now is that it or is there a level 8?
Question - Have you seen some
Question - Have you seen some numbers on this?
Because if you have, I would like to see them. Kaltofen and Gundersen (whom I both respect a lot) keep talking about the fallout in the PNW but I have yet to see any data. Sure would like to.
BC 12/11