Neptunium and Plutonium simulation

Submitted by Anonymous on Tue, 2012-01-10 12:53

This is some heavy ****.

Log in and you can play with the map. Looks like the whole USA got a little.

http://www.datapoke.org/blog/89/study-modeling-fukushima-npp-p-239-and-n...

Jeez.

BC 1/10/12

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The month the Earth stood still.

Submitted by Anonymous on Fri, 2012-01-13 18:53.

3/11-4/11 the month the Earth stood still - or should have.

Can you imagine the repercussions had the inhabitants of this planet took the proper precautionary measures - donning our civilian issue respirators and hunkering down in a purified bunker for the duration?

Surely it would have signified a death blow to the economy.

Yeah, the economy. All hail.

Submitted by Anonymous on Fri, 2012-01-13 21:24.

Yeah, the economy.

All hail.

Damn! Aresols of plutonium :( side effect of meltdowns- ahh mox

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 2012-01-11 19:07.

http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-09-nuclear-fukushima-aid-future.html

I was thinking these nuclear Aresols would be a health concern .above link states there no health concern even when 10,000 to 100,000 times normal as measured in washington state in early march!Then hit this data below indicating quite the contrary ,go figure.anyhow Ty bc for that link.tdm

"Nuclear aerosols formed during nuclear reactor accidents or explosions evolve via natural transport processes as well as under the influence of engineered safety features. These aerosols can be hazardous and may pose risk to the public if released into the environment. Computations of their evolution, movement, and distribution involve the study of various processes such as coagulation, deposition, condensation, evaporation, etc., and are influenced by factors such as particle shape, charge, radioactivity, and spatial inhomogeneity. These many processes and factors make the numerical study of nuclear aerosol evolution computationally very complicated"

http://www.new.ans.org/pubs/journals/nt/a_3892

It is still a

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 2012-01-11 22:00.

It is still a simulation.

They use the same "volitization" factor as Cs. Which may be crappola...

I breathe, but more importantly, my beautiful little girls do. My death I accept as certainty. But I can't deal with them being ill. And I am sure that the testing era exposed many people to as much or more and most made it through. But some did not. So that we could ensure "our" capability to kill. Or, more to the point , to indulge the motives/creativity of the overlords and/or bomb-makers, who knew that each shot could/would kill fellow Americans via fallout and who yet did what they did.

Still.....back to 3/11-4/11. I could have sheltered in place. I could have kept them in to minimize risk. Had I known, I would have. Hell, I should have. I really drank the kool-aid at first.

"Don't worry about the government...". They have YOUR interests in mind when they release information, or radioactive poisons, into your world.

Best to all still here. Wish I could get a radio check from any still checking in (and I know you're here tdm). I would sure like to see some BRAWM people, esp Mark Bandstra. Also Madmama, VB, Seattlemom, Cromack, E-T-C. C'mon, Let me know you've got your ears on...

BC 1/11/12

Hey BC & All - I'm still

Submitted by Anonymous on Fri, 2012-01-13 01:05.

Hey BC & All -

I'm still here. I check in daily, but post rarely.

Saw this plutonium/neptunium simulation a few months back... crap. Datapoke has done a nice job consolidating many disparate data sources though.

Incredible how little actual data there is about the actual actinide dispersal from this event... inexcusable given the fact that it's assuredly widespread.

I contracted with a private lab for strontium and plutonium isotope analyses of local samples back in October, but they still have not reported any results. I had intended to get the ball rolling with some privately-sourced, professional-grade (i.e., trustworthy) stateside data, with hopes that others would then expand the data base. I had even envisioned piecing together a US dispersal map based upon isotope analysis/measurements that private parties delivered along with the scanty available public data, much like what was finally pieced together using various contributing governments' data in Europe following Chernobyl... and published 10 years after the event.

BC - I read your post yesterday, but didn't have the words to respond. I still really don't, but I understand the despair and the fear. Yes, second guessing when it comes to our children is devastating. I have a particular image of picking up my 15-year old son from a baseball practice in late March. It was raining heavily, I was late and he was drenched through and thoroughly chilled. I have agonized over thoughts of what could have been/probably was in that rain.

That image and the cold fear of what the future may bring as a result of that exposure to my son, and countless other children playing in the rain last March, and the knowledge of what many Japanese folks are physically and emotionally enduring already, is what drives me to continually research and dig into this ongoing and unfolding crisis. I want to know... whatever the situation is, I want to know! I want data, numbers, measurements... not reassurances that all is well without the data to back it up. It's the LACK of information that literally drives me to the brink! It's there, damn it. I have no doubt that our soil, water sources, food supply, air quality have been thoroughly measured for the full range of radionuclides, but that information is suppressed. It will come out... slowly, and only as circumstances demand it. It will come out too late for anyone to take any preventive action (if necessary), that they could have/would have taken... had they known when it was early enough to make any difference.

MadMama

Glad to see you're still

Submitted by Anonymous on Sat, 2012-01-14 13:48.

Glad to see you're still here.

BC 1/14/12

"Best to all still here. Wish

Submitted by Anonymous on Thu, 2012-01-12 21:15.

"Best to all still here. Wish I could get a radio check from any still checking in (and I know you're here tdm). I would sure like to see some BRAWM people, esp Mark Bandstra. Also Madmama, VB, Seattlemom, Cromack, E-T-C. C'mon, Let me know you've got your ears on...

BC 1/11/12"

BC, I've always looked forward to your contributions, as well as those of the people you named. I've been here since the beginning, but 'anonymous', mainly b/c I was here to learn. (My own contributions have been limited.)
I see that tdm still frequents, but I do miss the others.
As for me/my family, we moved out of the northern hemisphere, not just b/c of Fukushima, but so many other factors; such as, the possibility of sabotage or natural disaster at other nuke plants, the burgeoning police state, the financial collapse, etc. etc. It was due to the entirety of the US and Europe situation, not just one factor.
We have much peace now. Truly, I'm stunned at how lovely our life is. I expected adjustment would be difficult, but we are happy again. Haven't had that feeling in ages.
One doesn't fully realize how dysfunctional, sick and corrupt things are in the US until exit. Sadly, hindsight is always 20/20. God I wish we had done this a few years ago and saved so much heartache and stress.
But I digress. Please pardon my diversion into editorial there LOL! I think it's a kind of therapy, if you will.
With some family still on the west coast, I continue to monitor this forum for excellent information (that is, when it's not co-opted by industry shills on occasion)
Best to all still here, also. And thank you again for outstanding contributions.

Glad to help

Submitted by Anonymous on Sat, 2012-01-14 13:50.

Thanks for your kind words. I have really tried very hard to understand this thing and posting here has helped me to focus my thoughts.

I have heard that South America is nice. Maybe I should tell my boss I need a month to go on vacay, lol.

BC 1/14/12

Why, why WHY would ANYONE

Submitted by Anonymous on Fri, 2012-01-13 19:07.

Why, why WHY would ANYONE "miss" the so called "contrbutions" of CIA-romack , and his ARMY of bought & paid for nuclear war/ power industry p.r hacks? Come ON!!!!!!

Unless youre yet another "secret face" of the MASTER OF DISGUISES. Well played, Cromack-non. Once again, your manipulations are impressive evn if your motives are NOT.

Evaporation of Plutonium

Submitted by Anonymous on Thu, 2012-01-12 09:35.

Plutonium has been shown to evaporate occur at 99% in temperatures of 1600 deg C or higher. Granted Cesium has a much higher vapor pressure than Plutonium (indicating it should vaporize at lower temps) but at high enough temperatures most every fuel/fuel byproduct will evaporate nearly completely.

link to the source for this info ( a declassified USAEC study):

http://www.osti.gov/bridge/servlets/purl/4358713-t3CNi0/4358713.pdf

This study confirms the existence of Fukushima based Pu particles in Lithuania to the tune of ~10 nBq/m(3).

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22206700

The datapoke study, while it does not contain data points in Lithuania, maintains model readings for Stockholm Sweden. The model predictions for Stockholm and the physical samples collected in Lithuania are similar within the Order of magnitude. From the quick look I had the above paper cites 44 nBq/m(3) Pu239-240 Whereas the datapoke model suggests 17 nBq/m(3) in Stockholm on March 27th for example.

Testing dust for the heavy stuff...

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 2012-01-11 21:34.

It seems we now have a mass market for test gear that can distinguish the between the increasingly and depressingly common nastiest of radionuclide pollutants. Time to check the stock portfolio to make sure the right volume suppliers and detector kit manufacturers are well represented ?

It is a brave new world.

Humpy Dumpty sat on a wall.....or maybe its Pandora's box......or both