Low levels of Cs-134/137 in 2011 almonds/prunes

Using-a-Geiger-Counter-to-test-food-for-Radioactive-Contaminatio

Submitted by Anonymous on Fri, 2012-07-13 06:56.

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Thanks to OP

Submitted by Anonymous on Tue, 2012-07-24 10:04.

Thanks for posting.
I just starting (one month ago) drinking lots of prune juice for my digestion. I think I am going to stop now and try to find another remedy.

These levels are so low it is laughable

Submitted by Anonymous on Thu, 2012-07-12 17:08.

Caesium-134 has a half-life of 2.0652 years

California Dried Prunes
Produced in 2011
Tested July 2012

Cesium 134 @ 0.08 Bq/kg
Cesium 137 @ 0.11 Bq/kg
Total Cesium @ 0.19 Bq/kg

California Raw Almonds
Produced in 2011
Tested July 2012

Cesium 134 @ 0.07 Bq/kg
Cesium 137 @ 0.10 Bq/kg
Total Cesium @ 0.17 Bq/kg

Statistical Suicide

Submitted by Anonymous on Fri, 2012-07-13 06:26.

Russian Roulette with tiny little bullets

Click, Click, Click ... Bang! You get bone cancer

Click, Click, Click ... Bang! Your sister gets leukemia

Click, Click, Click ... Bang! Your neighbor gets thyroid cancer

Click, Click, Click ... Bang! Your dog gets a brain tumor

Click, Click, Click ... Bang! Your daughter has a miscarriage

Click, Click, Click ... Bang! Your daughter-in-law gives birth to a mutant

Statistical Suicide ... The Game App

Brought to you by GE, Areva, Hitachi, Tepco, Siemens & Toshiba

Yes, but you've been playing

Submitted by Anonymous on Fri, 2012-07-13 07:12.

Yes, but you've been playing this game with natural background radiation all your life.

Natural Background

Submitted by Anonymous on Tue, 2012-08-28 13:02.

Natural Background Radiation is not ingested or inhaled.

Most natural radiation exposure from ingestion and inhalation

Submitted by bandstra on Tue, 2012-08-28 23:07.

Actually, most of our exposure from natural radiation comes from ingestion and inhalation. Please see the UNSCEAR Report 2008, Annex B Table 12 on page 339. About 50% of our natural background radiation exposure is a result of radon gas and its decay products, which are inhaled. And 12% is the result of ingested naturally-occurring isotopes. The remaining portion (only about one-third of the total) is due to external exposures.

Mark [BRAWM Team Member]

Part of the reason

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 2012-08-29 18:37.

Perhaps, living IN houses and OUT of the rain, reduces rainfall related Radon exposure.

Which probably adds YEARS to our lives and may figure into why we outlive our pets and domesticated animals.

Houses with high INTERNAL radon concentrations may negate some or all of this INDOOR/OUTDOOR advantage.

Perhaps

In some reports there are no

Submitted by Anonymous on Sun, 2012-11-18 13:50.

In some reports there are no solid connections between radon and lung cancer. I can find no long term animal tests fro radon or other source exposures.

CORRELATION BETWEEN MEAN RADON LEVELS AND LUNG CANCER RATES IN U S COUNTIES
..
A TEST OF THE LINEAR NO THRESHOLD THEORY
-
BY: Bernard L. Cohen
University of Pittsburgh
Pittsburgh, PA 15260

In summary, the data very clearly indicates that the correlation between lung cancer
rates and radon levels in U S counties is, on the whole, negative. This conclusion would
seem to be confirmed far beyond any reasonable doubt due to statistical uncertainties. It is
clearly in strong and direct conflict with predictions of the BEIR-IV estimates and with the
predictions of any other linear, no threshold theory of radiation carcinogenesis.

No

Submitted by bandstra on Thu, 2012-08-30 20:15.

The dose from radon progeny in rain is trivial when compared to other background doses — for one thing, it is an external dose from gammas and betas. However, radon makes up such a large fraction of our overall exposure because its decay chain includes multiple alpha decays and the exposure is internal.

Regarding animals, there are tortoises that far outlive humans, and this has nothing to do with radiation exposure.

Mark [BRAWM Team Member]

Butterflies

Submitted by Anonymous on Fri, 2012-08-31 13:56.

Butterflies live only a few days, or egg to death, a couple of months.

Neither Galápagos giant tortoise (Chelonoidis nigra), NOR butterflies are commonly referred to as 'PETS'.

However,

Identical breed DOGS and CATS tend to live longer INDOORS longer than OUTDOORS.

As do humans ...

PERHAPS radiation plays a part in that DELTA.

I beg to differ 10-0

Submitted by Anonymous on Fri, 2012-08-31 06:37.

Mark,

I beg to differ ... and

We have come to expect better considered remarks from you.

Shall we revisit 'Black Rain' and K-40?

10-4

WRONG!!!! WRONG!!! WRONG!!!

Submitted by Anonymous on Fri, 2012-08-31 07:45.

Mark's remarks are right on and correct.

Any intimation that Mark's remarks were less than well considered is just plain foolish.

Mark has been completely correct about K-40.

It's been those whose agendas don't admit good science that were in ERROR with regard to the previous K-40 discussion.

Opinion

Submitted by Anonymous on Fri, 2012-08-31 12:06.

Are you in the HABIT of 'correcting' personal opinion?

Perhaps you also disagree with my breakfast selections, or favorite sports team.

Lots of emphasis has been placed on Radon in homes. Real estate disclosures are required. Seems to me there might be SOME health considerations from exposure.

What is the pay scale, going rate for 'Thought Police, these days'?

We are not talking personal opinion

Submitted by Anonymous on Fri, 2012-08-31 12:57.

We are not talking personal opinion, but scientific fact.

Mark is correct that direct exposure to Radon is not the main dose mechanism.

The reason Radon is of concern in homes is NOT the direct radiation from Radon; but the Radon daughters that are also radioactive.

Mark also stated that in his post above. It is the Radon *daughters* that are of most concern.

A distinction without a difference (DWAD)

Submitted by Anonymous on Fri, 2012-08-31 18:11.

Well, here is another DWAD

It's not the marksman, gun, cartridge, bullet, impulse, energy, momentum, wound track or bleeding that kills you. You only die when the heart stops beating and the coroner declares time of death.

It's not the Radon, it's her daughters ...

It is a distinction without a difference ... for the context ...

IMHO ... OPINION

WRONG!

Submitted by Anonymous on Sat, 2012-09-01 13:47.

I disagree with the statement above:

You only die when the heart stops beating and the coroner declares time of death.

First, the declaration of a corner is not necessary in my definition of death. Someone can be dead for hours or days before the coroner is even called. The coroner's declaration is not necessary for death.

Additionally, one's heart can stop beating and the person is not dead. Have you never heard of "open heart surgery" where mechanical pumps provide blood flow temporarily so that the heart can be deliberately shutdown for repair?

You are using antiquated concepts.

As to the distinction without a difference; scientifically there IS a difference. If you want to properly determine what the danger and health effects are; you have to consider Radon and its daughters separately. You can't just lump them into one "Radon bucket" and get the correct answer.

Of course, you aren't in the business of getting correct answers; you are just a lousy propagandist.

Reading comprehension & retention

Submitted by Anonymous on Sat, 2012-09-01 19:46.

Any reasonably skilled reader noted that:

Each and every of the chain:

the marksman, gun, cartridge, bullet, impulse, energy, momentum, wound track or bleeding, heart failure, EEG flatline ... and so on and so forth ...

is one aspect of a 'kill shot'.

Just as certainly, that competent reader list did NOT include the Rude Dog

Reading Comprehension Problems from the MORON

Submitted by Anonymous on Sat, 2012-09-01 23:23.

Our local MORON has a again demonstrated his poor reading comprehension.

A previous post uses the phrase, "You only die when..."

This means the following are the conditions for death.

Among those condition were stopping of the heart and the actions of the coroner.

Stopping of the heart doesn't mean death, as all those who have had open heart surgery can attest.

Additionally, a person can be dead, long before a coroner is even called.

I parsed the statement perfectly; our local IDIOT MORON can't read.

Stupid Dog

Submitted by Anonymous on Sun, 2012-09-02 11:25.

Stupid Dog,

Your Farting, Belching, barking, biting children, Peeing on the furniture and humping everybody's leg, NEITHER endears you to us, NOR commends your Hormesis, Junk-Physics, Unsafe reactor defenses, and/or nuclear apologetics.

Nobody WILL EVER order up a nuclear reactor, or a MOX fuel upgrade, based upon your futile, feeble misattempts to persuade. Browbeating is NOT persuasion.

Even the SPCA would sanction, or at least understand, why we have Kicked the Rude Dog to the curb.

BAD DOG

DEVOID of factual content

Submitted by Anonymous on Sun, 2012-09-02 11:51.

I note that the above post is TOTALLY DEVOID of factual content.

As usual, our local MORON adds NOTHING in terms of meaningful content.

The only thing he offers is VITRIOL in the form of his analogy that I am some sort of dog, and analogizing my information filled posts to the less desirable behaviors of canines.

The French are still reprocessing / recycling Plutonium as MOX. They also continue those services for their client States like Sweden.

MOX was not responsible for the problems at Fukushima. The problems at Fukushima were due to inadequate preparations for a tsunami. Fukushima had diesel generator fuel tanks that sat at dockside for convenience, but could be wiped away by a tsunami. Fukushima had backup generators that sat in non-watertight basements where they and their switchgear could be disabled by a tsunami.

Those faults would never pass muster with the NRC in the USA. Fukushima could not have been licensed in the USA because of those deficiencies.

This IDIOTIC / MORONIC blaming of MOX for the Fukushima accident just conclusively demonstrates the meager reasoning power of our local "Village Idiot.

If he had been in my "Physics for Poets" class at the University of Michigan; he surely would have FLUNKED

He's not providing accurate information. He is only harping the same old anti-nuke talking point that "MOX is bad". The reason MOX is "bad" is it is a way of getting rid of Plutonium, and that deprives the anti-nukes of one of their most effective "scare-stories".

This self-righteous, self-absorbed, self-serving IDIOT offers the forum reader no backup for his opinions.

I on the other hand, have been the dutiful scholar and provided authoritative citations for the claims I make. One wouldn't expect less from a retired Physics Professor with no fiduciary interest in the nuclear industry.

It wasn't the tsunami

Submitted by Anonymous on Thu, 2012-09-06 17:19.

" The problems at Fukushima were due to inadequate preparations for a tsunami. Fukushima had diesel generator fuel tanks that sat at dockside for convenience, but could be wiped away by a tsunami. Fukushima had backup generators that sat in non-watertight basements where they and their switchgear could be disabled by a tsunami."

There are many credible reports from workers at the plant that after the earthquake and before the tsunami there were massive plumbing leaks. In addition it should be noted that radiation detectors on site were reporting radiation leaks just prior to the tsunami.

suddenly everyone just loves mutations

Submitted by Anonymous on Mon, 2012-07-16 22:38.

You must be... of the new-fangled radon cult? Comparing a few natural emissions from a ravine, a granite kitchen counter, even from a solar flare, is a *wee* bit different from a nuclear disaster. No?

Actually no. Dose is energy

Submitted by Anonymous on Wed, 2012-07-25 11:08.

Actually no.

Dose is energy deposited.

Once you calculate how much energy is going to be deposited from a solar flare, granite counter top or nuclear disaster it's all perfectly comparable.

Actually YES UR in the RADON CULT

Submitted by Anonymous on Tue, 2012-08-28 15:05.

Another Hormesis NUTJOB shows up!

I shall stick with ALARA

A MUCH better plan

not much of an excuse

Submitted by Anonymous on Fri, 2012-07-13 07:46.

Why push our luck?

ALARA

I am not laughing, but yes, I

Submitted by Anonymous on Thu, 2012-07-12 20:11.

I am not laughing, but yes, I realize that they are very low compared to naturally occurring isotopes such as K-40.

I reckon it must be in the wine, dried fruits, rice, etc. And of course was in all of the produce from CA last year. This does not panic me, but I sure don't like it.

BC 7/12/12

No Laughing Matter

Submitted by Anonymous on Fri, 2012-07-13 08:50.

I am not laughing either

But I select ante-Fukushima, Chilean & Down Under wine.

Texas Red and Mexico Sangria are as close to Fukushima as I will purchase.

Too much 2011 Spring Rain on the Left Coast to trust that year. A microburst could have SERIOUSLY contaminated a few California orchards.

No posted FDA Radition Test Results, farm by farm ... then NO SALE!

God knows what is served up at parties.