"Hot Particles"
Can anyone on the BRAWM team educate me a little on the hot particles issue? No doubt, many (if not all)of us have inhaled lead, thorium, uranium, cesium even pre-FK. Gunderson makes the point in a recent interview that during the worst of the FK meltdown, an adult in Seattle probably inhaled 10 "hot particles" per day.
To me, the inhalation issue sounds scarier than ingestion, probably because you can pick and choose what you eat and drink, but you can't buy bottled air.
How well studied is the inhalation of this stuff? Is it at all?
BTW, new Gunderson at www.chrismartenson.com. Worthwhile summation of current joy at FukuShima.


One hot particle has a
One hot particle has a 1/2000 chances of producing cancer.
The average person in Seattle breathed in 5 hot particles a day in April.
A Seattle resident in month of April increased chance of getting cancer by 7.5%
is this right?
Not an 7.5% increased chance
A subtle but very important distinction:
"a risk of cancer induction of 1/2000 per hot particle" does not imply a 7.5% *increase* in likelihood. That would be rather inconsequential since Americans have a only a .21% chance of getting cancer of the trachea, bronchus and lung (Wolfram Alpha).
Instead this implies a 7.5% chance of getting cancer. In other words, this represents a 35X or 3500% increase in liklihood of getting cancer.
Strictly speaking each
Strictly speaking each inhaled particle has a chance
of causing a lesion 10 percent to 50 percent of the time according to a cursory glance at this paper http://www.iaea.org/inis/collection/NCLCollectionStore/_Public/28/061/28... or one I skimmed like it relating to lung tissue through inhalation. That would decrease the risk by at least a factor of two, but the risk is still higher than I'm comfortable with if these hot particles really are about! So what of the results with filters to trap hot particles?
Correct me if I am wrong,
Correct me if I am wrong, but is this not a 5/4000 or 1/800 chance of lung cancer per day (Given 1/2000 chance of lung cancer per lesion, 1/2 chance lesion per hot particle inhaled, 5 hot particles inhaled per day). I really hope that these hot particles aren't around or as nasty as this old research suggests. Can anyone at Berkeley clarify?
In which case, there'll be no ambiguity
within cancer incidence statistics within as little as two to five years. There'll be a clear, statistically significant rise.
However, given that no such increase is statistically detectable across those areas with decent statistics which were exposed to Chernobyl emissions, or to the fallout from the 1956 Windscale fire, I'm certain we won't see a detectable effect. FWIW, I grew up in an area which was directly exposed as a result of Windscale, and if anything, the region's cancer incidence is slightly lower than than conparible areas of the UK.
It's important, when looking at studies in this area to differentiate between those that
(a) attempt to detect a signal in actual mortality or incidence statistics
and
(b) those that take a population does then "estimate" mortality or incidence by retrofitting an assumed relationship between exposure and mortality/incidence.
In this particular case, here examples of each:
http://iopscience.iop.org/0952-4746/20/3/301
and
http://iopscience.iop.org/0952-4746/27/3/E02
Instinctively, I find myself favouring the former - not because of the results, but an inate preference for the gleaning of data from experiment or observation, as opposed to assumed relationships.
So far as the surrent situation is concerned, here's another notable item - ironically, from one of the authors of the second of the two studies listed above.
http://www.springerlink.com/content/42282156qm2617x5/
"...a pronounced excess of childhood leukaemia would have been expected as a consequence of the short period of intense atmospheric weapons testing. We have examined childhood leukaemia incidence in 11 large-scale cancer registries in three continents for which data were available at least as early as 1962. We found no evidence of a wave of excess cases corresponding to the peak of radioactive fallout from atmospheric weapons testing. The absence of a discernible increase in the incidence of childhood leukaemia following the period of maximum exposure to the radioactive debris of this testing weighs heavily against the suggestion that conventional methods are seriously in error when assessing the risk of childhood leukaemia from exposure to man-made radionuclides released from nuclear installations."
In terms of overall radiation sensitivity, effects in terms of leukemia in children ought to be detectable at much lower doses, including of particulates, than just about any other form of exposure. Add to that, in terms of "hot particle" generation, those years of intense atmospheric testing will exceed anything from Fukushima by orders of magnitude. Something like 1700 bombs were exploded in the atmosphere, and if we make a conservative estimate of 20kg of U or Pu per bomb (the UK's largest test used well over 100Kg, and I'd be amazed if the US and Soviets hadn't tested larger), that's something over 30 tonnes released - plus activation products, etc.
By contrast, I've seen nothing to suggest a gross release of actinides from Fukushima. The detected amounts of Pu at the site are in the sub-microgramme range - the sort of amounts you might expect to see entrained in venting, when there's damaged fuel. That's easy to veryfy, btw - it's a simple calculation to convert the detected amounts (in terms of bequerels) to mass.
There's certainly been nothing analogous to the large scale lofting of particulates seen at Chernobyl - we know now that Gundersen's and others claim of large scale damage in the R4 fuel pond aren't borne out, and there's nothing that's occurred on the reactors themselves to release large quantities.
graphite vs. plutonium
Chernobyl was mostly graphite burning.
The mox fueled reactor No.3 had tons of plutonium that when contacted air exploded to a very high altitude.
A single particle of plutonium shrapnel, so small you cant see it, is a battleship of nuclear destruction to any cell it comes in contact with.
But some cells just far enough away will survive the bombardment and become very damaged and then some of them will become cancerous.
Its the concentration to a single spot of that can make this type of radiation dangerous not so much the total amount.
Only if they live on air and
Only if they live on air and don't eat, drink or bathe....