Collective Sampling Effort, Part 3, Take 1
I would like to see more food sampling.
Each lab test is $250.
Anybody here on the forum - if you will pony up half the $250 and package and ship the sample, I will pick up the rest of the money ($125), if the sample is interesting enough.
Preferred - West Coast. Meat/mushrooms/dairy/Cascades or Sierra soil/freshwater small stream fish or crustacean. Need 1 kilo sample.
Post sample idea here and let's discuss.
BC 1/23/12
Update 2/4/12
I have not given up on this.
There is a potential and as yet resolved accuracy issue that bears ironing out before I am going to do any more testing. Will advise.
BC 2/4/12
Any one in Hilo ,hi ?Boise Idaho ?areas
Based on EPA testing results hawaii got considerably more cesium deposition funny thing rain water results showed ?NOTHING ?but milk results testing showed 43.4 pci/L combined cesium 137 - 134(April 4-2011) .
Boise had Combined readings of cesium 134-137 in rainwater on march 27 -2011 of 78.4 pci/L but no milk testing ? I would add two seperate samples in boise were analized from march 27 i only added one .if u add both we get a reading 114.5pci/L If any one in Boise has access to some local pasturized milk I would gladly contribute or perhaps brawm would volunteer to test ( doubtful)they seem to be very selective of samples to test.
I'm not really sure what's going on but this hilo hi testing has me baffled and a bit puzzled for the EPA not to catch the rain and or miss the rain that was active .I know a lot of people in hi rely on rain water making this more puzzling...no rainwater advisory was issued in hi should it have?tdm
Google Dry deposition #^#% me.
So much for locating hot spots via rainfall. Dry deposition ugghhh.
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Hi BC,
I am in the greater Seattle area and very interested in doing some sampling. I am concerned with soil and beef. Also with fruit and veggies, although most of our supply comes from California. What would be of interest to you?
PNW Mom
Testing
Hi BC,
I am in the greater Seattle area and very interested in doing some sampling. I am concerned with soil and beef. Also with fruit and veggies, although most of our supply comes from California. What would be of interest to you?
PNW Mom
OK...
Of greatest interest would be something local to you. Can you secure local stream/river fish? Or small game animals or other meat that has been eating locally grown grass/hay, not brought in? I really want to go after samples that would be the "canary in the coal mine" type thing. I would go after mushrooms, but there was a post 3 months back regarding a researcher doing work on them in your area, name is Matt Trappe. I have not seen results yet.
Barring those, soil is a place to start.
Bc 1/25/12
BC and tdm - I would like to
BC and tdm -
I would like to communicate with you both, directly. Some info relevant to you both (but not confirmed, hence not appropriate for this forum) I'd like to share. How do you suggest we exchange email, etc... ?
MadMama
madmama - I've been forced
madmama - I've been forced into lurking here instead of posting (I posted a few times in the safe foods list thread months ago, but the forum update robbed me of the ability to post from my iphone which was my only internet access up until this week) - but if you're sharing info re: food testing, I would so love to be included. I'm in the Bay Area with two little kids and another baby on the way and feeling very much...awash...trying to deal with all of this still (10 months later). I'm relieved to see that there are least still a few stalwarts posting here and taking an interest in testing the food supply, despite the people constantly saying how crazy we are.
I would be testing if we could afford it...but we cannot right now. We've been eating SH produce, limited amounts of organic chicken (most likely from CA) and eggs...RO water or bottled pre-fuku (Evian is still easier to find in pre-fuku 6 packs...expensive as heck)...cut out all dairy except cheese aged longer than 1yr (right now we love tillamook 2 yr vintage cheddar).
Anyway...my email is stitchingmama@yahoo.com. Would really love to hear your stories...
citymom
OK...
MadMama-
downwiththisnewcentury@hotmail.com
BC 2/1/12
another seattle mom
hey there,
i'd be interested in eggs and organic broccoli...eggs from a local farm, broccoli from california. i've been buying whole foods frozen broccoli, since it's grown in mexico, but for all i know, that area could have been verily contaminated as well. i'm breastfeeding...wish i could get my breastmilk tested :)
cj
Samples
Keep in mind that the levels you see now in meat, and possibly dairy will be different (likely higher) later due to bio accumulation over time. While the CS134 will slowly decrease over the next few years (2 year half life), CS137 and SR90 will be around for a lot longer and will continue to concentrate and accumulate. Based on research I have seen, it will take several years before we see contamination rates in animals and dairy products begin to drop appreciably. Veggie rates will drop a bit faster, in most cases. Transfer rates from food to animal will be different depending on what is fed (local forage, or mix of grain and forage), and whether there were rainouts in that location. As for plants, many factors effect the uptake (clay vs sand, acidity, organic materials, mineral supplementation, degree and depth of tilling, and the type of veggie/fruit - they all adsorb differently!). It would he hard to draw conclusions from localized tests that could be generalized to more than that specific area or beyond that specific crop, but a comparative test or two might provide some ballpark figures as a starting point. (In recent months I have read A LOT! about these topics based largely on Chernobyl related research). If you are really concerned, get yourself a nice reverse osmosis water filtration system with kdf filtration, anion and cation filtration capability (for the Cs and Sr), and a carbon block filter for taste (you will have to build this sort of custom system for yourself as it is fairly specialized), and then take up hydroponic gardening. I have been enjoying hydroponic salads, herbs, and other veggies for quite some time and I don't have to worry much about fukushima fallout getting on them or in them.... since I control the water and I have an air purifier to deal with most airborne contamination. Hydro gardening is easier that you might think and can be very affordable if you make your own budget growing equipment - there are lots of videos on the Internet. There has never been a better time to become a vegan, or at the very least, to learn to eat lower on the food chain! And for the stuff you can't live without... find some food stores that carry imported foods (e.g. trader joes) and buy food that was grown as far south in latitude as you can find.
Good luck!
This does not bode well for
This does not bode well for my preferred diet of whale and dolphin steak. Is beluga caviar considered "lower" on the food chain? BC, I live in the northwest and have a freezer full of small game meat, raccoon mostly and a few dozen pounds of geoduck, I'd be happy to send a sample. Folks, if you want to survive the coming nuclear holocaust just follow my lead. I'll teach you how to dig a latrine and grow mung beans in a paper towel, and how to survive on urine and toenail clippings for days at a time.