BRAWM Info., Common Sense, Medical Awareness and Staying Informed...

To those such as John Q. Public who offer gripes, criticisms and pejoratives about nuclear energy yes, internal emitters cause direct damage to cellular material, yes, radiation whether it is internal or external (including geologic source ie: radon, solar and cosmic)IS cumulative. Nuclear energy is here, research to improve it is not going away, nobody is working on anything quite like Nikola Tesla's powerful vision of harnessing free energy and it would probably take another 50 years before nuclear is perfected or traded off for something like cold fusion or something better and equally as powerful and inexpensive unless something catastrophic sends mankind back a few centuries.

The BRAWM Team IS providing data as quickly as it can within the limits of the available equipment for detection. Fukushima is an accident that none of us asked for. The nuclear testing that occurred since 1945 was before many of us reading here were born and we ALL exist within the same environment:the Jet Stream/atmosphere contains residue of ALL the nuclear events that have occurred since that time. YES this results in cellular changes, mutations, damage and even cancers at rates higher than was known before the first ever nuclear materials were manipulated by humans.

OK, YES I am not happy that Sellafield, Chernobyl, Fukushima and all the other nuclear events have made my environment a potential invitation to lethal cancerous diseases (mind you, I was 22 when Chernobyl had their disaster and was 30 when diagnosed with a mildly low thyroid AND since I'd lived in the San Francisco Bay Area from age 3 a few other women like myself who lived ALL of their lives there also had thyroid problems diagnosed within the same time frame (5 and 7 years respectively-one aged 32 at time of her diagnosis had low thyroid with benign growths, the other had thyroid cancer and was only 19 when diagnosed which means she was only 11 when exposed to Chernobyl fallout.)

Now, my BEST advice to all reading this in the interest of preserving HEALTH and SANITY is:

1)You need to see a medical doctor at minimum of once per year and have a full panel blood workup including liver panel. Ideally, if you have the luxury of it:get your full physical every 6 months. My father was a professional pilot for PanAm and this is what they did for them, also, there was data sharing with CDC and even he knew they were compiling data related to radiation exposure, he knew he was BREATHING nuclear particles and to add insult to injury, this was in the days when smoking was permitted by all passengers which led to the statistical estimation that for each 8 hours of flight pilots, crew and passengers inhaled the equivalent of a PACK of cigarettes. What happened with my dad was vascular disease, common with pilots was to die of heart attacks from 50 to shortly after retirement, he lived to age 76 and my best guess is that since most in my family live to their 80's and 90's his career shortened his life by almost 20 years.

2)If you cannot afford visits to a Dr. for checkups, you can do what informed people do in between their checkups: Go to any college campus bookstore and purchase an anatomy and physiology text replete with good graphics and photographs. Next, as long as it is a good text, it will explain common diseases to each of your body's systems (physiology) When you learn about your own anatomy you will KNOW how to palpate vital areas where lymph glands are in your neck, armpits, torso and groin-you should feel these daily whenever you are showering:if there is ever anything irregular shaped, gritty like sand or small rocks or abnormal thickening compared to the opposite side of the body:ie:left breast/armpit vs. right then it should be investigated by a Dr. Next, you should have your partner or anyone who can help you to look at your skin both front and back for any suspicious skin growths or changes to moles if you have any (you only have to do the skin check once per month to note anything.) Your blood pressure can be checked at any pharmacy that has a cuff blood pressure machine, do the blood pressure check once every 1 to 3 months is smart. Of course, it goes without saying that natural body functions of elimination should be looked at whenever you do them:any blood in feces or urine should be checked out (of course for menstruating females, there's bound to be some blood that leaks out so don't get that confused with blood in urine occurring at times other than menses.) The idea with self examination is to catch anything suspicious before it gets beyond management and cure and, if you have symptoms such as irregular bowel movements, belly pain etc. that go on for more than 5 days get help immediately because medically speaking, you definitely need professional help. Other things such as chest pain or unusual headache may be vascular problems and generally need professional attention/invstigation within the hour. Also, I went off and on with suffering coldness, tiredness (being more tired waking up than when going to bed), messed up abnormally heavy periods, dry patches on elbows, hair shedding abnormally for 3 months before realizing something was VERY wrong-better to have caught it within a few weeks of the weird symptoms but per my Dr. not always possible by patients especially if working 60 hour plus weeks.

3)Allow 6 months to deal with lessening consumption of 'hot' produce if you live in a Western state (I'm in Reno, NV so you know I'm doubly concerned with higher levels of exposure since the jet stream during this El Nina year is more than happy to 'bring it on' my way more than others AND almost all our produce comes from California.) I'm stocking up and eating canned fruits and veggies for now along with the beans, legumes, grains and rice I already have on hand. Dairy products: well, I know water is used in the almond milk and coffee creamers we're using AND that Cesium-137 IS water soluble, my guess, probably less of it in water than dairy products such as milk,yoghurt and soft cheese since they are known concentrators. Fukushima will take a year or so to complete cold shut down so I anticipate that I'll still limit produce consumption up to that time AND wines vinted from 2011 to 2015 from our West States we are self banning since they will be carry higher densities of unwanted radionuclides. Also, it goes without saying, SEAFOOD is history unless you have your own geiger counter and want to do your own inspections and still take the risk. For us, we're sticking to fresh water fish if and when we want fish.

4)Stay informed and pass the info. along to others.

Signed,

HotCaviar

-Off my menu: All Seafoods because the oceans really are a military and industrial sewer! Yes, I will miss Anchovies on my pizza, fishsticks, red snapper, tuna (even 'chicken of the sea' is no longer 'worthy,'crab, fake crab (made with Pollock, an ocean fish), clam chowder, Nori Seaweed,Caviar etc... See: http://pstuph.wordpress.com/2011/04/01/can-ocean-currents-transport-radi...

>it would probably take

>it would probably take another 50 years before nuclear is perfected or traded off for something like cold fusion or something better and equally as powerful and inexpensive unless something catastrophic sends mankind back a few centuries.

That nuclear energy is inexpensive is a legend. From the moment you include the price of building a power plant with the proper safety measures, the decades it takes to decommission the installations and the price of processing and storing the spent nuclear fuel for centuries you get a good extra charge in the bill. That if you don't add the health care for the cancer patients or the price you pay when something like Fukushima I happens.

What everyone conscious of the disadvantages can do from today is to reduce energy consumption. Demanding investments on renewable energies from our politicians is not a crazy idea either. Everything but accepting the spurious fact that our society wouldn't survive without nuclear energy, or resigning oneself to a daily check up for tumors.

If you also factored in the

If you also factored in the costs correctly putting other energy cycles on the same plane as nuclear, where all toxic waste products from production to plant shutdown (full life cycle) have to be contained, I think you will find that these are comparable or will place nuclear as a cheaper option. The sheer volume of waste streams in all other energy cycles are immense because of the power density per unit is so low. Everyone thinks that solar or wind have no waste streams, but they do. To supply base-load power, one has to employ a great deal of battery technology within the infrastructure and the current battery technology employs lithium which is extremely toxic. If one does a full study of the energy life cycles, one will find that the waste toxicity of nuclear is better contained than any other viable energy source. Once again, and I'm sorry keep harping on this point, coal-fired plants DO NOT contain their waste steams and we suffer health-wise due to this fact. Other fossile fuel energy cycles such as oil refinement and combustion produce other major health impacts.

Full cost accounting for the life cycle of coal

Frankly. Mr. Chivers, I am FLOORED and dismayed at your comment

You said
"one does a full study of the energy life cycles, one will find that the waste toxicity of nuclear is better contained than any other viable energy source."

Fukushima and Chernobyl and Sellafield and the Yucca Mountain FAIL as a repository ALL demonstrate that you are completely wrong on this.

I think there is probably NO ONE posting here who would argue that oil and coal are the solution BUT renewables are without question the energy sources with the least expense and toxicity and are the MOST viable for the future.

We are in a transition period and Fukushima had proven that nuclear CANNOT be contained and in fact is a GLOBAL toxic contamination risk and, in reality, we are experiencing it now as we have over and over with nuclear projects.

The DANGERS from these low level emissions are hotly debated by health physicists and experts and we simply do NOT know that these levels are "safe" and the current science say they will probably cause many cancer deaths in the global population.

But the real issue here is whether we expend our resources developing renewables and more rigorous conservation measures or whether we subsidize the most dangerous and wasteful and outdated technologies like nuclear, coal, and oil.

Natural gas may be a good interim solution (and nuke plants could pretty easily be converted as they have been in some cases).

It takes a village, Mr. Chivers, to come up with creative solutions. Nukes and coal are NOT creative solutions but destructive nonsolutions.

Germany and China, among other nations, are taking the lead in becoming primarily reliant on renewables in the next generation. Renewables CAN provide all our energy needs when combined with innovative technologies, smart grids, localized energy production (wind, solar) rather than massive centralized grids, and conservation.

Greenpeace and others have issues many papers on the potential for becoming a society totally powered by renewable energy in this generation. But we CANNOT waste any more money and subsidies and resources on dangerous, deadly and insanely expensive nuclear power promotion.

i feel like I am beating my head against a wall when I argue with those who reiterate the industry line that Nuclear is clean, safe, and affordable and that we need it. It is dead wrong, false, and misleading to say we must have nuclear and can't transition to 100% (or near that) renewables. It will take innovation and bright people and commitment and education --- and it will take WAKING UP to what Fukushima has proven: Nukes are deadly and destructive. You do NOT need to boil water with nuclear fission to get energy.

How many thousands of years

How many thousands of years do we have to keep the spent nuclear fuel contained before it's not lethal?

Half life of Plutonium-239:

Half life of Plutonium-239: 24000 years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plutonium-239

Minimum storage time of 10 half lives: 240,000 years.

http://wapi.isu.edu/envgeo/EG10_radwaste/EGmod10_radwaste_index.html

Time humans have been on earth: 200,000

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_human_evolution

So to answer your question another way, we have to keep 'spent' nuclear fuel safely stored longer than humans have been on the planet.

Actually, toxicity of spent

Actually, toxicity of spent nuclear fuel is based on Np237 which has a longer half-life, more mobile in a geological sense, and has higher toxicity to humans.

There is a natural precedence for underground storage and containment of spent fuel from the Oklo anomaly. This was a natural reactor that went critical in the precambrian age (>500 million years ago). Now, all of the plutonium would have decayed away by now, but one can determine the distribution of stable decay products of the transuranic elements (such as plutonium) to get an idea of the probability of these elements reaching a human population. The probability is actually very, very low and obviously depends on many factors including the geologic stability of the area and the presence of ground water flow. Containment of spent nuclear fuel has been studied extensively more than the containment of any other toxic substance. When it comes to toxicity and energy cycles, I believe we have superior understanding in containing nuclear waste. I know I will be attacked for this, but I have seen whole careers based on this single subject and this continues to be one of the most important research subjects within nuclear engineering and environmental science departments.

SRS Paper on Oklo

Oklo anomaly and ancient dietary choices...

dchivers,

Thanks for sharing the info. about the Oklo anomaly! I'm guessing that sooner or later similar deposits may be discovered both within the depths of the earth and possibly in as yet unexplored areas of the vast oceanic geography.

In thinking about this along with the fact that certain cultures/religions have a history of forbidding consumption of various foods: ie:shellfish/bottom feeders to vegetarianism it's not too difficult to think that perhaps in mankind's distant past over various geographies that clusters of illness from eating those foods were correlated and over time the foods were 'forbidden' and that some of those clusters may have been due to pockets of geography with naturally high quantities of radioactive materials leading to ancient dietary laws.

The idea of ancient Hindus (quite likely the culture and religion with the oldest surviving documents) for example coming up with vegetarianism perhaps due to something similar to the Oklo anomaly is not too difficult to imagine since I think I recall somewhere one of the posters here mentioned that natural background radiation in India can add as much as 50 micro-Sevierts to individual exposure and, with plants being the first line in the food chain and being among the lowest concentrators of radioactive materials and toxins vs. small to large animals (with larger more long lived most likely to concentrate the most) maybe this is a long forgotten reason although most Hindus do consume dairy and eggs in lieu of flesh foods.

-Off my menu: All Seafoods because the oceans really are a military and industrial sewer! Yes, I will miss Anchovies on my pizza, fishsticks, red snapper, tuna (even 'chicken of the sea' is no longer 'worthy,'crab, fake crab (made with Pollock, an ocean fish), clam chowder, Nori Seaweed,Caviar etc... See: http://pstuph.wordpress.com/2011/04/01/can-ocean-currents-transport-radi...

>The probability is actually

>The probability is actually very, very low

As low as having 3 nuclear reactors and 4 spent fuel pools out of control for at least 3 months?

apples/oranges...

apples/oranges...

It can be seen as

It can be seen as apples/apples, since we are talking about human designs that must include adequate safety measures for the proper period of time. In case of nuclear waste containment, it seems we are talking about hundreds of thousands of years, which sounds like a little too long to bet on the design not meeting a situation surpassing specifications.

HotCaviar, You said you are

HotCaviar,

You said you are eating canned foods. Don't overdo the canned foods! Watch out for BPAs.

http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/news/20100518/canned-food-may-expose-p...

You may be trading one risk for another!

By the way, I found one

By the way, I found one company that produces it's cans WITOUT BPA. It's Eden Foods, they can beans and soups and some other things. You can purchase them at Whole Foods and also online I think. It's interesting that they are able to do it but no one else does. I think it is a more expensive process, but rock on that they are doing that for their customers. The government really needs to just mandate that manufacturers eliminate BPA - since clearly it CAN be done. ugh..

Re: Canned/Glass Jar Canned Foods and BPA's

Thanks for your concern!

I've been long aware of the BPA risk, most of what I mean as canned is actually in those glass canning jars-stuff like pickled asparagus, artichokes, pepperoncini, peppers, tomato sauces, fruits. Also, 'canned' foods such as string beans, collard greens or mixed vegetables that have salt added get rinsed first AND for example on a once in a while quick meal: any ramen gets 3 minutes in hot water, gets drained out and then gets a fresh amount of hot water to which is added finely sliced or minced onion, vegetables, egg, chopped up pre-cooked chicken breast and a very light sprinkling of the salty chicken packet that comes with it followed by a dash of red pepper.

-Off my menu: All Seafoods because the oceans really are a military and industrial sewer! Yes, I will miss Anchovies on my pizza, fishsticks, red snapper, tuna (even 'chicken of the sea' is no longer 'worthy,'crab, fake crab (made with Pollock, an ocean fish), clam chowder, Nori Seaweed,Caviar etc... See: http://pstuph.wordpress.com/2011/04/01/can-ocean-currents-transport-radi...

HotCaviar, You said you are
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sun, 2011-04-24 01:37.
HotCaviar,

You said you are eating canned foods. Don't overdo the canned foods! Watch out for BPAs.

http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/news/20100518/canned-food-may-expose-p...

You may be trading one risk for another!

BPA

There may be a lot more BPA on your store receipts and money:
http://www.saferchemicals.org/PDF/reports/OnTheMoneyReport_Final2.pdf

good advice

Brilliant post. Since this is an ongoing event, we need to adapt, pay attention, and not spread rumors, at least in my opinion. There are probably several things each one of us can do to improve our health at the same time--like, say, stop smoking if you smoke. Exercise. Eat whole foods and avoid processed junk. Eat meat sparingly. Don't eat whale meat :)
The folks at Berkeley have been outstanding--I could never be so patient with the public myself.

Philosophy

Amen sister.

"The BRAWM Team IS providing data as quickly as it can within the limits of the available equipment for detection. Fukushima is an accident that none of us asked for. The nuclear testing that occurred since 1945 was before many of us reading here were born and we ALL exist within the same environment:the Jet Stream/atmosphere contains residue of ALL the nuclear events that have occurred since that time. YES this results in cellular changes, mutations, damage and even cancers at rates higher than was known before the first ever nuclear materials were manipulated by humans."

There it is, people, the truth. Thanks to the decisions of a small number of people in the past, we are all affected. Something to keep in mind for the future.

It all started with a small group of people...

Yep, it all started with a small group of people-firstly in Nazi Germany and then folks like Einstein, Teller, Feynman and others part of the Manhattan Project.

Stay informed both medically and with books (I like Richard Feynman's 'Surely You Must be Joking Mr. Feynman' just for starters) current events and somewhere down the line get yourself a geiger counter if you're really curious!

'Philosophy
Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 2011-04-23 23:01.
Amen sister.

"The BRAWM Team IS providing data as quickly as it can within the limits of the available equipment for detection. Fukushima is an accident that none of us asked for. The nuclear testing that occurred since 1945 was before many of us reading here were born and we ALL exist within the same environment:the Jet Stream/atmosphere contains residue of ALL the nuclear events that have occurred since that time. YES this results in cellular changes, mutations, damage and even cancers at rates higher than was known before the first ever nuclear materials were manipulated by humans."

There it is, people, the truth. Thanks to the decisions of a small number of people in the past, we are all affected. Something to keep in mind for the future.'

-Off my menu: All Seafoods because the oceans really are a military and industrial sewer! Yes, I will miss Anchovies on my pizza, fishsticks, red snapper, tuna (even 'chicken of the sea' is no longer 'worthy,'crab, fake crab (made with Pollock, an ocean fish), clam chowder, Nori Seaweed,Caviar etc... See: http://pstuph.wordpress.com/2011/04/01/can-ocean-currents-transport-radi...

annual blood testing

I think this is important overall. I also find that my regular doctor will not do full bloodwork on an annual basis. If there is a suspected disease, they are often very limited in the testing that they will do. This is through an HMO.

I know that some folks don't go through an HMO, and can pay an enormous amount for blood testing, depending on what their annual deductible is.

One alternative is to joint lef.org, and once a year they have their blood panels on sale. If there are abnormalities, of course you need to be working with your doctors, but this is a way for "regular folks" to have access to these tests.

LisaT

Multistix and early detection...

'Was reminded today about Multistix by SIEMENS. They're reagent strips for urinalysis-much can be detected early through urine and you can use them as a part of the self monitoring suggested in the initial post to this thread. If you can talk your Dr. into prescribing them on a private unlimited scrip to you for your own personal self monitoring, purchase them less expensively on your own through drugstore.com for about $70. They have 100 strips in them. What you do is collect your urine in a small urine sampling cup, pour into a test tube/glass cigar tube the length of the strip, put the strip quickly into it and count the seconds for each square on the strip to give a reading. As long as everything is showing 'normal' per the color chart on the side of the bottle, you're good to go. If anything shows abnormal, check it again over the course of a week and then go get it checked out by your Dr. Ie: One of the strips detects blood you can't see in urine for example and others check for ketones and blood sugar.

If you are in a situation where you just can't go to a Dr. on a regular basis, but have these on hand and are relatively healthy these can allow you to find out if anything is going on that might warrant your getting it checked out in advance of allowing something to get worse that you might otherwise be unaware of.

-Off my menu: All Seafoods because the oceans really are a military and industrial sewer! Yes, I will miss Anchovies on my pizza, fishsticks, red snapper, tuna (even 'chicken of the sea' is no longer 'worthy,'crab, fake crab (made with Pollock, an ocean fish), clam chowder, Nori Seaweed,Caviar etc... See: http://pstuph.wordpress.com/2011/04/01/can-ocean-currents-transport-radi...

Medical resources for those without finances for it...

LisaT,
Thanks for that link, these things are so important to know, also, if you can locate teaching hospitals and if you need it, dental training clinics these are also good resources for those who do not have finances for medical.

For those who MUST regularly take certain medications but have no access foreseeable for long stretches of time or have access possible at the County level (when I lived in the East Bay Area Contra Costa County was great for me at a time when I had nothing) save ALL your prescription bottles, carefully remove the labels, attach to a sheet of paper, photocopy it and either send it by FAX or digitally by email via a free account to www.progressiverx.com YES, you will have to pay for the meds but they will cost LESS than elsewhere. If you are in a place like Reno, NV there is NO County Hospital you will need to locate places like HAWK who will work with you on a sliding scale.

Off my menu: All Seafoods because the oceans really are a military and industrial sewer! Yes, I will miss Anchovies on my pizza, fishsticks, red snapper, tuna (even 'chicken of the sea' is no longer 'worthy,'crab, fake crab (made with Pollock, an ocean fish), clam chowder, Nori Seaweed,Caviar etc... See: http://pstuph.wordpress.com/2011/04/01/can-ocean-currents-transport-radi...

Thank you HC! Very

Thank you HC! Very informative...we were feeling pretty stumped about food alternatives, your post provides alot of really good suggestions.