Are you changing your diet because of the levels?
I live in CA and I was at the grocery store tonight trying to decide what type of milk to buy. I felt a bit crazy trying to decide which milk (organic or other) would have less cesium 137 in it. Also, berries, grapes and such are in season, but I'm just not sure if I should eat them right now since their skins are thin and they are more sensitive to the environment. Is anyone feeling this same pressure and are you choosing one over the other? We all have to eat and most foods are produced regionally so we can't really avoid what is getting in our food. I'm curious to find out if I'm the only one thinking this way during grocery shopping.


almonds
we're starting to make our own almond milk again as i'm wary of the water in almond milk products. i always made our own nutmilks before almond breeze became so popular and easy to find in the grocery stores and i have access to some of the cleanest water on the planet. apparently our water has won worldwide awards lol.
are all california almonds harvested in the fall? the exp date on the almonds i picked up is apr 29 2013 which seemed kindof weird for an autumn harvest.
My apologies for the
My apologies for the somewhat late response, but I'm just as curious as the initial poster. I'm wondering if consuming certain foods from different regions will have a major impact on my health. Are certain fruits, vegetables & dairy products better than others from different regions? Why? Is it purely environmental or is it because certain regions use pesticides or manufacturing practices that ruin the nutrition/quality of food? Would consuming a vitamin supplement help? Has anyone here perhaps ever used mesosilver before? Thanks!
almonds
usa almonds are "pasturized', so get almonds from spain or almond butter from italy.
look at a site called natural news to get info on the pasturization issue.
This much is known. All
This much is known. All radioactive exposures are cumulative for each human, animal and plant. What’s more, mutated genetic codes are passed on to offspring forever. This means all Japanese and all Northern Hemisphere inhabitants are suffering internal radioactive contamination from Fukushima Daiichi reactors already.
Charlie
Just couldn't pass this supplement list up. Enjoy!
WHY OUR GREAT-GRANDPARENTS WERE SOOO HAPPY
I'm surprised that they remember anything!!)
A bottle of Bayer's 'Heroin'.
Between 1890 and 1910 heroin was sold as a non-addictive substitute for morphine. It was also used to treat children suffering with a strong cough.
Coca Wine, anyone?
Metcalf's Coca Wine was one of a huge variety of wines with cocaine
on the market. Everybody used to say that it would make you happy and it would also work as a medicinal treatment.
Mariani Wine.
Mariani wine (1875) was the most famous Coca wine of it's time. Pope Leo XIII used to carry one bottle
with him all the time. He awarded Angelo Mariani (the producer) with a Vatican gold medal.
Maltine.
Produced by the Maltine Manufacturing Company of New York ...
It was suggested that you should take a full glass with or after every meal. Children should only take
half a glass.
A paper weight:
A paper weight promoting C.F. Boehringer & Soehne Mannheim , Germany ).
They were proud of being the biggest producers in the world of products containing Quinine and Cocaine.
Opium for Asthma:
At 40% alcohol plus 3 grams of opium per tablet, It didn't cure you, but you
didn't care...
Cocaine Tablets (1900).
All stage actors, singers, teachers and preachers had to have them for a
maximum performance. Great to 'smooth' the voice.
Cocaine drops for toothache.
Very popular for children in 1885. Not only did they relieve the pain, they
made the children very happy!
Opium for new-borns.
I'm sure this would make them sleep well (not only the Opium,
but also 46% alcohol)!
It's no wonder they were called, 'The Good Old Days'!! From cradle to grave...
Yes, I have changed my eating habits.
A week after the Fukushima incident, I purchased a large supply of Nido full fat powdered milk with a date of manufacture well before that tragedy. Also stocked up on sea weed products with manufacture dates prior to the disaster and canned fish for extra iodine intake. Since the BP spill, I have not trusted Gulf sea food, and now there is none that I trust save for canned sea food with a date of manufacture before Fukushima. Found great Mackerel at a Vietnamese grocery with a 2009 canning date and a 2013 expiration date. I have a backyard garden any way, but have cut back on the amount of leafy greens planted. Also only eat eggs from the chickens in the back yard and froze a lot of aged cheese that I know was safe. I know that there is no protection for the damage that is ongoing, but it seems like what should be done. And someone in my group of family, neighbors and friends needs to have the loaves and fishes: might as well be me.
Drastic eating changes may lead to healt problems...
One epidemiologist, Steven Wing, has suggested that we not change our diets. That the radiation plumes are going everywhere anyway, getting on and into all sorts of food sources all over the country. In terms of general health concerns, other doctors have found that drastic changes to the regular diet can cause more harm than good, causing our 'normal' balance to go out; and, often making it extremely difficult for our body's chemistry to readjust back. And, as a result, we can end up actually getting sick from all the eating changes. I personally am not going to make big changes to my eating patterns. Some food, perhaps, but not drastic eating changes. Food for thought!
My body is healthy and
My body is healthy and adaptable, and I plan to keep it that way.
I have, very many times, changed my diet substantially, but generally based on whim or discovery of something new, such as a new form of cuisine. No ill effects.
This time I change it out of necessity, but just as many others have done, who have discovered that they were allergic, were prone to gout, or what have you.
I have made sure to maintain a proper balanced diet, even if it is from sources I previously rejected because they were not my tongue's favorite. Four and a half months later and NO ILL EFFECTS. Meanwhile, people around me who haven't changed a thing have been catching "flus" and having sore throats and all the rest.
I loved ice cream, but don't tell me no longer eating it is what is going to make me sick! That's an empty excuse for those too weak-willed to put in the effort to preserve their own health. Then if nobody does it, there won't be any pressure on the government to help them do so, right? And that won't cause a backlash to the nuclear industry, responsible for contaminating all that delicious food in the first place. Win for everyone, right?
Supplements post Fukushima
P.S., Guys- What I said above about drastic changes to eating habits not being especially wise and possibly damaging, I have personally found the same to be true for suddenly taking new supplements by the handfuls. I did that once, and found I had even more problems with the supplements' adverse affects on my system, than the original problem that I started taking the supplements in the first place. Currently, the only thing's I have really added post Fukushima are a daily kelp tablet (not especially strong) , and occasionally chlorophyll liquid. And, I really eased into both of these supplements very, very slowly.
A word of caution, if you are going to add supplements, I would do so cautiously, and only one supplement at a time over perhaps a two week period. See how the first supplement treats your body, before you try adding a second one. And, so on.....
Be careful of what you put into your body. You only have one body. Treat it well. Good health to all---
I think you make a very good
I think you make a very good point angus. In addition to diet I truly believe any drastic changes in your lifestyle based on this event will do more harm than good. Healthy diet and exercise are great. Bill had mentioned in earlier posts that turmeric and cilantro are both antioxidant and delicious. We have to constantly remind ourselves that despite the validity of our concerns, the levels are miniscule. To quote dchivers, stress will have a much greater impact on your health than any of the slight upticks from this event. That's just my two cents. Be well friend!
To echo...
...Although, like HotCaviar (and several other, NON-BRAWM contributors and readers here, I suspect) I made adjustments to my diet early on in this crisis -- some of which I've since reconsidered (milk and milk-related products), others that remain excluded (leafy greens, strawberries, salmon, tuna, crabs, clams, sushi, Kobe beef, seaweed, and any products originating in Japan or the Pacific Ocean that I can identify), I think generally Dr. Wing's perspective is accurate. Based on the limited "hard" data at our disposal -- nearly all of which derives from BRAWM's good efforts, btw -- and, to perhaps a greater extent, relatively unproved suspicions, hypotheses, and general unease, we are all to some extent rethinking our intake, and it's difficult to make cost-benefit calculations when the "knowns" (normal dietary value, emotional utility, and affordability of various foods) and the "unknowns" (predictable contamination levels, amount of time foods are liable to be affected, or, even, what the ACTUAL, and not merely SUSPECTED, risks / effects are) are in such violent and so far unresolvable collision. But, generally speaking, and to Dr. Wing's, as well as BRAWM's, points: Although no one would recommend doing what feels uncomfortable or dangerous, DEPRIVING ourselves, particularly of the known health benefits of our favorite srandbts, may do much more harm than good. Should we be sacrificing KNOWN benefits to the undefinable potential spectre of current UNKNOWNS? Seems irrational, even to me -- and, like I said, I'm "guilty" of doing it, too! As someone else drolly (and accurately) observed, it's certainly "food for thought".
Keep breathing, angus. The sun will rise tomorrow, and the next day, and the next. If you feel compelled to go without some habitual foods for the time being, NO ONE -- certainly, not I -- will gainsay you. But try not to take things to an unhealthy or unreasonable extreme, and above all, please don't deprive yourself of what your body needs to function well. You can't protect yourself or your loved ones if you're too weakened, sickly, worn out, pr stressed out to function. And they need you, partner, and so do we.
Rick Cromack.
Allen, Texas
Ah darn! I hadn't
Ah darn! I hadn't considered Kobe beef...my entire life i've put off trying a kobe steak and now i'm not sure it's a good idea, at least until they get this thing under control and food regulation is ramped up in Japan...in the mean time we have chosen to continue eating locally grown whole foods and frequenting the brawm site. After several months of fear and anxiety I refuse to let this diminish our happiness and quality of life. By the way angus you mentioned a fawn making appearances around your house...that's awesome! I wish we had wildlife like that around here! Lot's of racoons but that's about all...however we did see a few majestic eagles on our walk through the park, it was my first sighting ever! It reminded me that life is thriving every where we look despite how grim some posters would have us believe things to be.
I hadn't considered Kobe
I hadn't considered Kobe beef, either. Maybe we could buy a community geiger counter for checking beef steaks (especially Kobe), tomatoes, lettuce, and spinach. We can house it in Los Angeles with me. Just kidding... I think.
By the way, I now have 'two' spanking brand new fawns (spots galore) in the mountains behind my house, plus the baby screech owl in my pine tree, which I think I mentioned before. Baby screech just screeches its little heart away. Already it is flying. No eagles, though. Never seen an eagle in the wild. Awesome!!!
Fukushima, please keep your top cool!
That's really cool Angus...I
That's really cool Angus...I used to live in an area where chances were you would see a deer or some owls just about every morning around 5 0r 6...alas, I live in the heart of the city now. We have an incredible city park about 5 miles by 5 miles and it hosts all kinds of cool wildlife, the eagles being my favorite. When this mess first started I remember reading posts about silver clouds and no matter how many reassurances the BRAWM team provided I was still nervous as hell to go outside anytime it was raining...which is a daily event here. Finally after several days of obsessing over the rainfall numbers I relaxed and went to the city park and had my first sighting of the year. You always know the eagles are there before you see them because of their incredibly distinct screech and when they take off you just can't believe how big their wingspan is. It was a slap in the face watching those majestic birds soar through the clouds without a care and realizing how I had caged myself up in fear in front of the laptop. I have a feeling, no matter what happens over there in Fukushima, the earth will find a way to not only survive it will continue to thrive. It is my humble belief that there is an incredible feedback loop system in the universe and no matter how great mans folly...natures ability to overcome is greater. Hell you pointed out yourself how much crap we've been putting in our bodies for HUNDREDS of years and my great grandfather and grandmother both of whom were around for WWII nuclear tests AND Chernobyl live long happy lives. I feel like a lot of us on this forum are going through the same thing. I agree with you wholeheartedly, learning curve is pretty difficult at times and this has forced me to dig up critical thinking skills that I haven't used in years! Anyhow...cheers friend! I like your idea regarding a community geiger counter for the foodstuffs! There is so much that I'm going to miss but won't risk consuming until I hear something about food regulation that makes me believe it will be safe to consume again IE Sushi, Green Tea, Kobe Beef...I'm really kicking myself for not buying that steak I saw at the market several months ago (Pre-Fukushima)! I'm a cook and there are about a million other ingredients I'd be interested in holding a counter to...oh well. Sometimes you just have to hand the reins over to higher power.
P.S., We can also use the
P.S., We can also use the community geiger counter to check new vintage bottles of wine before we purchase them, as Mark of BRAWM fame (reading between the lines) informs us that the wine may well end up having more radiation than the water (tongue in cheek). By the way, Mark, how many bottles of wine will we have to consume to equal the plane flight to, what was it, New York? That might be kind of fun. And, how many volunteers do you need? Mark, bet you could get a surplus of volunteers on that experiment.
P.S.2- If you like my black
P.S.2-
If you like my black sense of Irish humor, I am Angus.
If not, I am Anonymous.
The impending death of half
The impending death of half the Earth’s living species is being looked at with casual indifference! Is your response one of indifference? Can you think of one way that you can make a difference?
To respond to your
To respond to your query...Yes I can think of a way to make a differance. I can avoid scare mongering by exaggerating and flat out INVENTING information. I can inform myself about what is REALLY happening in Fukushima. I can utilize the data provided by BRAWM and third party independant testing. IF and WHEN I see that there has been an uptick that warrants lifestyle or dietary changes I can make those accordingly. I can start consuming more antioxidants and excercising to burn off some of this increased anxiety. I can avoid websites that profit from terrifying people and that recycle old news to increase their "clicks". I can also acknowledge that SO far websites like ENENEWS, RadiationFears, and the Idealist are the only folks that have stood to PROFIT from this event not like the BRAWM team that have provided us with valuable data and insight and who have stood to gain NOTHING from quelling posters fears regarding the MINISCULE levels of fallout seen here.
These are some things that I can do to make a differance in my life and the lives of the people I love. Now regarding your question, can I think of one way that I can make a differance, and the answer is yes. For one thing I attended an alternative energy conference over the weekend and learned ALOT. I've written strongly worded e-mails and called the EPA here in my state requesting that they continue and increase their monitoring considering how many dollar signs taxpayers throw at them. I've kept my family and friends informed but I've been careful not to spread the FEAR that many anonymous posters incite and encourage. Yes I am absolutey aware how bad this is for ocean ecology and biology....in fact I believe this is what we need to be MOST concerned about, not the MINISCULE...BARELY DETECTABLE levels found here in the states. Yes our chances of contracting a related illness have increased by the tiniest fraction...but think about how much your odds of dying in an automobile related accident skyrocket whenever you get behind the wheel of a car. WALKING DOWN THE STREET carries a risk...everything we do. If I let every little statistical increase in illness or death stop me from living my life I would be freaking miserable! IN FACT...I would probably be trapped inside my home surfing the web all day (ignorant to the radiation my laptop is probably giving off) shouting that the world is going to end. We all die someday friend...the only thing you can do about it is to make sure you and the people you love have a high quality of life and are happy. This mess in Japan (and for all of our fear can you imagine how stoic and brave some Japanese have been in the face of this) isn't over yet and who knows what could come of TEPCO's efforts to contain it...so remind yourself of the little boy who cried wolf. Love and live for now because I assure you the wolf has NOT made an appearance on our soil. PS here is some food for thought...I grew up in Colorado near Rocky Flats and on top of massive granite deposits. If you're not familiar with the facility you can find a wiki entry I'm sure, while you're at it check out the town of Ouray. It's where my grandfather worked for years at the uranium mines. My entire family have faced higher levels of radiation then most americans see our ENTIRE LIVES and we are all in perfect health. My grandfather was not so lucky. He died of lung disease more likely caused by the two packs of cigarettes he smoked every day for thirty years. Godspeed friend. I hope you are well and take a moment to breathe. Life is beautiful.
I'm pretty sure you didn't
I'm pretty sure you didn't grind up the granite and inhale it.
If you love learning, as you
If you love learning, as you say, study more about the risks involved in "minuscule" alpha/beta particles lodged in your lungs, versus the lukewarm bath of emf from your laptop; it is really misinformed to be more worried about the latter.
However, I will agree with you that enenews does us a major disservice by peddling the same article several times as if it is several articles. In once case in particular it was actually very misleading as to the contents of the artcle, and I believe it intentional. Now, enenews is still a valuable hub, in my opinion. With Fukushima news dripping out slower than molasses I appreciate such a service. However, those sorts of games seriously made me question its credibility, and make me wonder if the owner doesn't stand to profit financially in some way from the derogation of nuclear power.
Now, almost nobody derogates nuclear power more than I do, but I don't get a red cent for doing so, I am just trying to be a dutiful citizen of the world. The fact that someone else (coal industrialist?) is trying to pervert that into something else makes me queasy.
Even though BRAWM is friends with my enemy, I get the sense they do so more out of a blind ignorance than through greed. I won't call them my friend, but I respect them. And even though Enenews is enemy of my enemy, they are certainly not my friend.
Gah! You will have to
Gah! You will have to forgive me...I need to hire an editor. I think the gist is there despite the fact that I'm not the most articulate or technical writer on here.
Diet changes in light of 'new' radiation awareness
In reading up alot more about radiation I discovered, that the reason govt are probably seeing this as negligeable effects on the rest of us, is because we are already exposed on a daily basis.
Every day, about 70% of our estimated average radiation exposure is from natural surroundings from the earth, from radon in your basement, from cosmic and solar radiation, from occassional solar flares (in 2000-2002 there were alot more than usual)another maybe 20% from your average visit to the hospital or dentist, smoking (equivalent to a chest x ray), long flights 12hrs+ (also equivalent to a chest x ray if going canada to australia or china) and then there are variables (weapons testing, small leaks, and so forth), and another 5 or more % from cooking and residue in food (microwaves and ovens emit radiation into your food too). I still disagree with any extra radiation, I have enough already thank you! And am dissapointed at the location of the fukushima reactors to start with- that is a no brainer..
My conclusion in all this is ..Now is as good as any time to start limiting your exposure and fighting back with at least good food in your system.
So to the comment of good foods, being a source..yes its true, but it is still better to equip your body, up your immunity, and fight free radicals every day.
Eat lower on the food chain. Less cooked, fresh food, pesticide free is the best for you. I am growing mine at home now. Partly for fun, Partly for something to blog about, and mostly because its a good idea.
A restricted, unvaried diet will increase your risks to many things including low energy , unhealthy skin, unhealthy internal organs, low immunity, high risk for heart disease and also high risk to accumulate more radiation in your body.
Higher fiber foods help you eliminate the toxins out. Flush your system with clean water and fiber in a moderate but regular way.
Too much milk anyway increases your mucus levels and attracts toxins. Get the calcium elsewehere too.
The benefits of eating well and eating a variety of fruit and vegtables will outweight the negatives.
I was on a month long meat free detox for earth month anyway. Beleive me I'll indulge in a nice steak sometime soon! But the human body needs a break and a boost every so often...looks like now is a good time as any!
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Geez! microwaves don't
Geez! microwaves don't insert any particles of radiation in your food. It "radiates" (warms) your food but does not make the food radioactive.
Microwaves are still a waste of money because the way in which it heats the food destroys valuable nutrients.
RE:Diet changes in light of 'new' radiation awareness
Thanks Growblogg,
As of now I will begin adding back fresh raw carrots, celery, melons, bananas (yes I know, K40 LOL!), tomatoes, squash family vegetables, pears and continue with dried plums, raisins and other dried fruits, nuts, grains, legumes, almond milk etc. I will continue 'self banning' of milk, yoghurt and all 'soft' cheeses with aging of less than 90 days until there is more favorable data.
I am sure missing butter lettuce and other lettuces-READ: We're getting really tired of no announcement that Fukushima is no longer releasing into the atmosphere/ocean!In my area of Reno, NV they seem to come from Salinas, CA and I am assuming that means this produce has either a presence of or high Cesium-137 and Iodine-131 etc. levels. If anyone knows the levels are the now back to pre-Fukushima, please let us know! We're also fully aware that hell, we're breathing all the radioactive stuff anyway and seriously thinking of quitting all the 'self banning' (and keeping the house windows closed too) on foodstuffs since well, the FDA, EPA etc. seem to think it's irrelevant since they're allowing it in the marketplace and PEOPLE ARE STILL BUYING IT SINCE THEY DON'T SEEM TO KNOW! FISH is another matter, HONESTLY we can't see how MOST of the public are CLUELESS about the fact that OCEAN SEAFOOD is truly soiled and 'HOT' as in MANMADE, RADIOACTIVE!!!
PS: While I've begun purchasing some produce that shows Mexico, Peru and Guatemala as country of origin I am fully aware that in ALL of these countries their gas has LEAD which brings to mind the story of a bountiful beefsteak tomato plant that grew next to a TEL (tetra-ethyl lead) pond and tested as completely toxic by the lab scientists at IT over 20 years ago in Martinez, CA.
~Off my menu: All Seafoods because the oceans really are a military and industrial sewer! Yes, I will miss Anchovies on my pizza, fishsticks, red snapper, tuna (even 'chicken of the sea' is no longer 'worthy,'crab, fake crab (made with Pollock, an ocean fish), clam chowder, Nori Seaweed,Caviar etc... See: http://pstuph.wordpress.com/2011/04/01/can-ocean-currents-transport-radi...
http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/node/3486
BRAWM Info., Common Sense, Medical Awareness and Staying Informed...
Diet changes in light of 'new' radiation awareness
Submitted by Growblogg (not verified) on Thu, 2011-04-21 16:20.
In reading up alot more about radiation I discovered, that the reason govt are probably seeing this as negligeable effects on the rest of us, is because we are already exposed on a daily basis.
Every day, about 70% of our estimated average radiation exposure is from natural surroundings from the earth, from radon in your basement, from cosmic and solar radiation, from occassional solar flares (in 2000-2002 there were alot more than usual)another maybe 20% from your average visit to the hospital or dentist, smoking (equivalent to a chest x ray), long flights 12hrs+ (also equivalent to a chest x ray if going canada to australia or china) and then there are variables (weapons testing, small leaks, and so forth), and another 5 or more % from cooking and residue in food (microwaves and ovens emit radiation into your food too). I still disagree with any extra radiation, I have enough already thank you! And am dissapointed at the location of the fukushima reactors to start with- that is a no brainer..
My conclusion in all this is ..Now is as good as any time to start limiting your exposure and fighting back with at least good food in your system.
So to the comment of good foods, being a source..yes its true, but it is still better to equip your body, up your immunity, and fight free radicals every day.
Eat lower on the food chain. Less cooked, fresh food, pesticide free is the best for you. I am growing mine at home now. Partly for fun, Partly for something to blog about, and mostly because its a good idea.
A restricted, unvaried diet will increase your risks to many things including low energy , unhealthy skin, unhealthy internal organs, low immunity, high risk for heart disease and also high risk to accumulate more radiation in your body.
Higher fiber foods help you eliminate the toxins out. Flush your system with clean water and fiber in a moderate but regular way.
Too much milk anyway increases your mucus levels and attracts toxins. Get the calcium elsewehere too.
The benefits of eating well and eating a variety of fruit and vegtables will outweight the negatives.
I was on a month long meat free detox for earth month anyway. Beleive me I'll indulge in a nice steak sometime soon! But the human body needs a break and a boost every so often...looks like now is a good time as any!
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Hi, Growblogg. Thanks for
Hi, Growblogg. Thanks for the info. Do you have any advice on how to treat soil in your vegetable garden after the radiation dousing we've received over the past month? Or is it even necessary? I have no way of testing my soil but I'm in California so I'm sure it's been tainted to some degree. I want to start my first vegetable garden (tomatoes, strawberries, carrots, beans, peppers, herbs) but now I'm wondering if I should even bother at this point. I don't want to spend my first gardening experience worrying about all this stuff but I'd still like to at least try to grow a few things. Anyway, let me know if you have any advice or direct me to the appropriate section on your site. Thanks!
Use clay soil.
Use clay soil.
I read that sunflowers aid
I read that sunflowers aid in the removal of cesium and others isotopes from the soil.
http://www.mhhe.com/biosci/pae/botany/botany_map/articles/article_10.html
http://www.ecaa.ntu.edu.tw/weifang/cea/sunflowers.htm
http://thingsinspire.blogspot.com/2011/04/fukushima-radiation-sunflowers...
http://www.oasisadvancedwellness.com/health-articles/2011/03/fighting-ra...
Natural Geiger Counter: There is a plant that is a natural Geiger counter. The spiderwort plant is so sensitive to changes in radiation levels (its petals change color upon exposure) that it’s often used as a natural radiation detector (dosimeter), just as they use canaries in mines as detectors of poisonous gas. Some people like knowing that they have an ongoing monitoring system for radiation in the environment, and this is just another tip available in “How to Neutralize the Harmful Effects of Radiation or Radioactive Exposure.”
Zeolite - Zeolites have been used to decontaminate animals, particularly sheep and reindeer, which have ingested radiation following nuclear disasters such as Chernobyl. Addition of zeolites to contaminated soils has shown to reduce up-take of radionuclides by plants, and hence, reduce the spreading of contamination through the food chain. (Introduction to Zeolite Science and Practice by Herman van Bekkum). Do not take any product containing zeolite if you are taking any prescription medication containing heavy metals, such as lithium, or containing platinum, which can be found in some cancer medications or Radiotherapy with chemotherapy check with your practitioner.
Also here is information about adding compost and cover crops to aid in removal of radioisotopes.
http://weblife.org/humanure/chapter3_12.html
"An Austrian farmer claims that the microorganisms he introduces into his fields have prevented his crops from being contaminated by the radiation from Chernobyl, the ill-fated Russian nuclear power plant, which contaminated his neighbor's fields. Sigfried Lubke sprays his green manure crops with compost-type microorganisms just before plowing them under. This practice has produced a soil rich in humus and teeming with microscopic life. After the Chernobyl disaster, crops from fields in Lubke's farming area were banned from sale due to high amounts of radioactive cesium contamination. However, when officials tested Lubke's crops, no trace of cesium could be found. The officials made repeated tests because they couldn't believe that one farm showed no radioactive contamination while the surrounding farms did. Lubke surmises that the humus just "ate up" the cesium.70"
I found this
I found this too.
http://www.natureswayresources.com/DocsPdfs/bioremediation.pdf
"Sunflowers (Helianthus sp.) have the ability to remove radioactive and toxic metals from soil and water. Some strains of sunflowers can remove up to 95% of toxic contaminants in 24 hours and will remove all contaminants in longer time frames. One test in Ohio showed that water containing 350 PPB uranium entered the test plot and emerged at 5 PPB or less, well below the EPA standard of 20 PPB. A test at Chernobyl in Russia found that sunflower growing on styrofoam rafts had roots that registered 8,000 times more cesium and 2000 times more strontium than surrounding water. Wall Street Journal.
http://www.hawaii.edu/abrp/Technologies/rhizofi.html
Rhizofiltration of water
http://www.irpa.net/irpa10/cdrom/00841.pdf
Effect of Different Treatments on 85Sr Plant Uptake in Various Soil Types
Radioactive fallout migrates
Radioactive fallout migrates slowly through the topsoil, with the speed depending on soil type and vegetative cover. A number of methods have been tried for decontamination, decreased plant/animal uptake, and the like. There's a huge body of literature, some now translated from Russian and others either translated to or originally published in English. Some are immediate decontamination experiments, others have 5-10 years of results, and some are quite recent.
I'm just wading through myself, and have limited time for a serious literature search, but I'm starting to get a minor handle on things. The links/papers I cite are NOT meant to be the last, best word on their respective subjects. Check citations & references for more information.
"Vertical migration studies of 137Cs from nuclear weapons fallout and the Chernobyl accident" was published in 2006. The abstract says Cs remains in upper soil layers and migrates downward at between 0.35 & 2.63cm/year.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18469591
Another paper studied soil in Nebraska: "Concentration of (137)Cs in soil across Nebraska." A quick scan of figures from the full paper suggest radioactive CS in undisturbed soil even after 25-50 years remains mostly within 6-12 inches of the surface.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17030348
If you're just starting out with a small garden, I'd suggest scraping the top 5-6 inches of soil off, and making a raised bed with deeper soil mixed with compost, manure, and amendments. Make the bed about 2 feet deep. You can dump the top layer somewhere you won't be planting vegetables. Put a PVC pipe frame over it, and drape it with plastic if it's going to rain. Consider the 'square foot gardening' technique to keep the area small. Google it; there's lots of references. Herbs can go into 12" pots and be brought indoors, or tucked around the edges of the raised bed. Just be sure to put the taller plants where they won't shade the short ones.
giving credit :o)
sorry did not have the link before, but here is where i got the average human exposure numbers :
http://www.who.int/water_sanitation_health/dwq/GDW9rev1and2.pdf
I just purchased an
I just purchased an e-booklet by neurosurgeon, Dr. Russell Blaylock, entitled "Nuclear Sunrise". It is available at BlaylockWellnessCenter.com for $10. In addition to revealing the effects of radiation on the body, he gives recommendations on supplements that are helpful in treating radiation exposure. He specifically mentions Iodine, Cesium and others. He gives the protective properties of each supplement as well as dosing information for different ages, infant through adult. Dr. Blaylock is retired from practice and is now involved in research. I have been a subscriber of his monthly newsletter for years and personally find his nutritional recommendations very helpful. I purchase my family's supplements from Vitacost.com. at a very reasonable price. I just ordered the supplements that Dr. Blaylock recommends for radiation protection. It turns out that several of the supplements that my family already takes on a daily are also helpful in treating radiation exposure! I just have to up our dosage a bit.
Anyway, I just wanted to share the information that I came across, in case anyone's interested. It gives me great peace of mind. I'm the only one I know that is doing anything proactive. When I try to inform my friends and extended family, they all think I'm over reacting. I have been following UC Berkeley's website since the beginning of all this. I came across this thread today and wanted to share this.
Here's an article by Dr.
Here's an article by Dr. Aspley that gives a regimen of radioprotective supplements at the end: http://doctorapsley.com/RadiationTherapy.aspx
Here's a 124 page pdf that is about supplements that are radioprotective: http://meditationexpert.com/RadiationDetoxDraft.pdf
I just finished typing up a "buyer's guide" to the supplements in Nuclear Sunrise. I've read that magnesium stearate, a substance commonly used in vitamins to facilitate the pill-making process, can coat the intestines and prevent absorption. I don't know how true this is or how much effect it may have, but I tend to avoid it if possible. So my list is for supplements without magnesium stearate. Cheaper supplements are available if you don't mind the stearate.
I've broken it down as to price by day, also, so as you read Nuclear Sunrise you can look at my list and see where you get the most bang for the buck. Here's the list. Again, I'm sure there are cheaper products out there, so think of this as just a start.
Buyers Guide to Supplements for Radiation Protection
from Nuclear Sunrise
Hopefully good prices, and no products have magnesium stearate.
Watch Russell Blaylock on Rense at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZmmSSwtuS0
"Vit C and E are modest radioprotectants compared to curcumin and quercetin."
R-Alpha Lipoic Acid NS p. 14. 100mg twice a day.
This is the pure form and 2 to 12 times more effective than RS-Alpha lipoic acid, and more costly.
Pure Bulk http://purebulk.com/alpha-lipoic-acid-r-ala
10g packet is $20.00 or .40 daily. 25g packet is $42.75 or .34 daily. 50g packet is $77.00 or .31 daily. 100g packet is $139.00 or .28 daily. 250g packet is $298.00 or .24 daily. 500g packet is $540 or .22 daily. 1000g packet is $975 or .20 daily.
Basil Extract NS p.12. No dose given.
Contains flavonoids orientin and vicenin. The protective effect of vicenin lasted longer than 30 days.
Swanson Super Critical Holy Basil http://www.swansonvitamins.com/NWC069/ItemDetail?n=0
120 softgels at 2 per serving for $31.17. 2 softgels contain 670mg of basil extract. 2 softgels daily is $1.04 daily.
Beta Glucan NS p. 12. 250mg or 500mg.
"To be taken only during a nuclear event."
Pure Bulk http://purebulk.com/beta-glucan-1-3-20
100g packets are $7.00 or .04 daily. 250g packets are $15.00 or .03 daily. 500g packets are $27.00 or .03 daily.
Carotenoid Complex NS p. 12. No dose given.
Swanson Full Spectrum Carotenoid Complex http://www.swansonvitamins.com/SWU260/ItemDetail?n=0
30 softgels are $12.99. 1 a day is .43
Chlorella NS p. 13. 2 450mg capsules 3 times a day (2.7grams)
Herbalcom has broken cell wall chlorella from Canada for $16.95. Some chlorella is coming from Japan, which I definitely would avoid. http://www.herbalcom.com/store.php3?list=cats&session=1795a050ecce3e0368...
Curcumin NS p.14. 250-500mg. daily.
Powerful protectant.
Pure Bulk http://purebulk.com/curcumin-turmeric-extract-powder
50g is $29, 100g is $52.50 and larger. At 500mg daily 100 grams is .26 daily.
Deglycyrrizinated licorice Listed to soothe the stomach. Not a radioprotectant.
Ellagic Acid NS p. 17. 2 caps twice a day (assume 500mg caps)
Pure Bulk http://purebulk.com/ellagic-acid-90-galla-chinensis
25g pack is $14.25 or $1.14 daily. 50g pack is $25.75 or $1.03 daily. 100g pack is $46.50 or .93 daily. 250g pack is $99.50 or .79 daily. 500g pack is $180 or .72 daily. 1000g pack is $324 or .65 daily.
Folate/Folic Acid NS p.16 800mcg daily.
1 serving of brewers yeast has 1240mcg.
Garlic, odorless NS p.13. 600mg 3 times daily.
Swanson Lifetime Odorless Garlic http://www.vitacost.com/Lifetime-Odorless-Garlic
100 softgells at 1000mg daily for $3.90. 2 a day is .08 daily.
Ginger NS p.15. 2 500mg capsules 3 times a day.
A very powerful protectant.
Vitacost Nature’s Answer Ginger Root Extract 1 oz. For $6.23
http://www.vitacost.com/Natures-Answer-Ginger-Root-Extract
1 serving is 1000mg, 30 servings per container. 1 bottle lasts 10 days, .62 daily. Or just buy fresh root from the grocery store, probably a much better value.
Ginkgo Biloba Extract NS p.12. 80mg. twice a day (for Pure Encapsulation brand)
Swanson Ginkgo extract http://www.swansonvitamins.com/SW893/ItemDetail
240 caps at 60mg is $5.89. 2 caps or 120mg is .05 daily. 3 caps or 180mg is .07 daily.
Green Tea NS p.17. 1 capsule 3 times daily. (assume 500mg per capsule)
Pure Bulk http://purebulk.com/green-teae-50-egcg
100g is $11, 250g is $23.50 and larger. 100g packet is .16 daily. 250g packet is .14 daily.
Hesperidin NS p.17. Very protective at 6gms a day, per the video.
Amazon Thorne Research HMC Hesperidin http://www.amazon.com/Thorne-Research-HMC-Hesperidin-60s/dp/B000FH13FO/r...
60 caps of 250mg are $9.80. The video recommended 6gms daily which is 24 capsules which is $3.92 daily. Need to find a more economical source!
IP-6 Inositol Hexaphosphate NS p.12. No dose given. Pure bulk recommends 500mg 3 times daily.
Pure bulk http://purebulk.com/inositol-hexaphosphate
100g packet is $11.75 or .18 daily. 250g packet is $25.25 or .15 daily. 500g packet is $45.50 or .14 daily. 1000g packet is $82.00 or .12 daily.
L-Carnitine fumerate NS p. 16. 340mg twice a day.
This is mostly for the eyes and preventing cataracts.
Amazon Biotics Research http://www.amazon.com/Biotics-Research-L-Carnitine-Powder-100g/dp/B000UQ...
100grams is $42.90 or .29 daily.
Melatonin NS p. 13. 20-30mg daily
Use only for a week or two if a nuclear event occurs.
Pure bulk http://purebulk.com/melatonin
5g packets are $10.75 or 10g packets are $20 or larger. Small packets are .06 daily.
Methylcobalamin NS p.16. 5mg. daily.
Should not be taken with iron because iron dramatically increases free radical generation.
Best if taken with folate, niacinamide and B6.
Vitamin Life
http://www.vitaminlife.com/product-exec/PNAME/B-12-Drops-5000mcg--Methyl...
1 oz. = 87 servings at $24.88 us .29 daily.
N-Acetyl-Cysteine NS p. 15. 500mg daily.
Pure Bulk http://purebulk.com/n-acetyl-l-cysteine
100g packets are $9.50 or .05 daily. 250g packets are $20.50 or .04 daily. 500g packets are $36.75 or .04 daily.
Niacinamide NS p. 16 500mg 3 times a day.
Swanson Now Niacinamide http://www.swansonvitamins.com/NWF840/ItemDetail?n=0
500mg 100 caps is $3.87. 33 days is .12 daily.
Quercetin NS p.12. 500mg. daily.
Powerful protectant.
Pure bulk http://purebulk.com/quercetin-dihydratee-95
50 grams is $14.75, 100 grams is 26.50 and larger. 50 grams lot is .15 daily. 100 gram is .13 daily.
Resveratrol NS p. 17. 200mg twice a day between meals.
Another option might be red wine polyphenols as a source of resveratrol http://purebulk.com/red-wine-50-polyphenols
Pure Bulk http://purebulk.com/resveratrol-99
10g packet is $20.00 or .80 daily. 25 g packet is $42.75 or .69 daily. 50g packet is $77.00 or .62 daily. 100g packet is $139.00 or .56 daily. 250g packet is $296.00 or .47 daily. 500g and 1000g also available.
Rosemary Extract NS p.17. 400mg cap 1 to 2 times daily.
Vitacost Nature’s Answer Rosemary Leaf 1:1 extract http://www.vitacost.com/Natures-Answer-Rosemary-Leaf-1-fl-oz
1 oz. at $6.23. 15 servings at 2000mg, or 30 at 1000mg. At 1000mg .21 daily.
Selenomethione NS p.13. 200mcg daily.
Swanson Natures Way Selenium 200 mcg. http://www.vitacost.com/Natures-Way-Selenium
200mcg 100 caps is $4.00 100 days is .04 daily.
Silymarin NS p. 23. 250mg twice daily.
Amazon Vitamin Shoppe Milk Thistle Extract 2 oz. $9.99 http://www.amazon.com/Vitamin-Shoppe-Thistle-Extract-liquid/dp/B00013YZP...
Vitacost Yerba Prima Milk Thistle Extract 50 cas 80mg each. $1.76 daily. http://www.vitacost.com/Yerba-Prima-Extra-Strength-Milk-Thistle
Tocotrienols NS p.16. 50mg 3 times daily.
Don’t take with regular Vit E as it interferes with absorption. Tocotrienols are part of the Vit E family and thought to be better protectants for some things than the common tocopherol form. Nutricology tocotrienols are 90% d-tocotrienol, the most potent form.
Vitacost Nutricology Delta Fraction Tocotrienols http://www.vitacost.com/NutriCology-ARG-Tocotrienols
30 softgels at 125mg are $9.78. 1 capsule is .33 daily.
75 softgels at 50mg are $14.29. 3 capsules daily are .57 daily.
http://www.vitacost.com/NutriCology-Delta-Fraction-Tocotrienols
Trans-ferulic acid NS p. 17. 500mg 3 times daily.
Bulk Actives 15g is $5.45 or .55 daily. http://www.bulkactives.com/ferulicacidnatural.htm
AliExpress 1 kilo is $68.94 or .06 daily. http://www.aliexpress.com/product-gs/431868977-Natural-Ferulic-Acid-98-f...
Reposting here from the meat question for those interested...
Just this past Friday I talked to a board certified cardiovascular/thoracic surgeon and after telling her of BRAWMS data, she told me to stop drinking milk, drink prepackaged powdered milk and eat only imported foods. She also told me not to trust the government when they say the levels are safe.
When I first told her, she was shocked that cesium is in the milk and other foods. She had no idea until I pointed her to this site. Hopefully she'll chime in if she's reading this.
Wow, surprised she hasn't
Wow, surprised she hasn't been keeping up, but happy to hear she's got a level head.
mushrooms
Since mushrooms are usually grown indoors/cave/dark, I really don't think they are a problem. We should not automatically exclude this veg, just because UC found radionuclides on them--remember they were wild.
Anything but mushrooms. They
Anything but mushrooms. They tend to concentrate all the things you don't want to it the same way mold and mildew does.
It's been third or fourth radiation time for my family. For example my older brother grew up as a healthy baby in the place where many women never saw their newborns (because hospitals were instructed to show only healthy babies, also they didn't tell why, but people new somehow). My parents were very poor at the time and there was no easy way to buy milk in the area. So my brother was raised on the oat flour instead. And he was the healthiest baby in that place. (Being a bit hungry with "boring" food and strict hygiene sometimes can help.) Also my parents moved after 9 mo. They moved to coal industry place, but at least you can wash coal dust from the apple and you can see it. I mean it was a clean coal, because sometimes it could be pretty toxic and radioactive too, but not always.
Agreed, NO MUSHROOMS please.
Agreed, NO MUSHROOMS please.
lifestyle changes
No milk, spinach for our 4 yr old daughter. She also gets water bottled before the accident and fancy aged cheese. We had a a few bags of dried wakame and also quite a few bags of dehydrated kale chips which she willingly eats.
For the adults, filtered water...no strawbs, mushrooms etc and a daily kelp pill supplement.
Also we all wear cap made out of tinfoil. ; )
food
If you are worried about radioactive elements in the food chain, milk is THE food to eliminate from the diet. If I had kids, I would get them used to drinking one of the milk alternatives--rice milk, oat milk, etc. It doesn't make a lot of sense to worry about fruit, but continue drinking milk, does it? Same goes for foods that are highest in pesticide residues (buy organic when you buy these): milk, celery, peaches and nectarines, strawberries, apples, blueberries, bell peppers, spinach, kale, cherries, potatoes, grapes, leafy greens, carrots. Foods you don't need to buy organic: avocados, onions, fresh corn, pineapple, mango, asparagus, peas, kiwi, cabbage, eggplant, papaya, watermelon, broccoli, sweet potato.
http://www.whatsonmyfood.org/
http://www.panna.org/
Apples are almost a superfood they are so good for you, and many in the store were harvested last fall and stored. The only fruit higher in antioxidants are cranberries. You must eat the peel to get the health benefits of apples though, and commercial apple JUICE is pretty much just sugar water. I would not worry about fish from the west coast at this point, with some exceptions. Farmed freshwater fish are also probably completely safe, like catfish and tilapia.
I said this in another thread, but I'll say it again: I really think you are better off eliminating unhealthy foods from your diet and adding healthy foods to it than you are by trying to eliminate foods that might be affected by Fukushima. Eating fresh whole fruits and vegetables is probably the best thing you can do to prevent cancer. Add superfoods to your diet:
http://www.webmd.com/diet/features/superfoods-everyone-needs
http://www.webmd.com/diet/guide/10-everyday-super-foods?page=2
http://www.superfoodsrx.com/superfoods/
There are also carcinogens in many cosmetic products:
http://www.preventcancer.com/consumers/cosmetics/cosmetics_personal_care...
http://www.preventcancer.com/consumers/cosmetics/narita.htm
http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/
The only thing I hesitated eating so far was some spinach, but I don't think I'll eliminate leafy greens from my diet. They are just too healthy and I think consuming them outweighs any danger from radiation at this point. I am worried that this low-level radiation exposure is going to go on for the long term, perhaps years, so it's probably good to keep monitoring information on food safety. It will be interesting to see what happens with the local organic farms here in the northwest. How awful to have your life's work be providing healthy food to people only to have something outside of your control contaminate it.
Anyway, just pointing out that there is a lot we CAN control in terms of our health and exposure to carcinogens in our environment. We can't avoid being exposed to Fukushima's ongoing low-dose radiation in the air, but we can continue to find the best sources of information we can trust and continue to monitor what is in our air and food. We need to trust scientific consensus on what are *dangerous* levels too, as long as we rely on scientists that don't have a stake in the game. I might mention that 15% of the Environmental Protection Agency's budget was just cut in the budget. not good.
I hope this is helpful. Stay healthy everyone :)
---Angela
Surviving this mess
I have to say that I really empathize with the folks out west and am glad I am not living in that area right now. I'm in coastal carolina and am anxious enough about what is going on in the world. I wish information about this crisis had been more forthcoming from the powers-that-be. No matter what the issues, having concrete information is more helpful than platitudes saying that everything will be ok.
I have two young children and had thyroid cancer 10 years ago, so these events really jack up my paranoid-o-meter. I'm doing what I can to ease my mind. This includes no more fruits/veggies unless I can verify that they are coming out of central/south america. I have potatoes from Canada which I am eyeing suspiciously but will probably eat. As I do my grocery shopping, I check for food that was produced prior to the Japan crisis. When I find it, I buy a LOT. My freezer shows evidence of preparation for the apocalypse.
I bought about 10 half gallons of ultra pasteurized Organic Valley milk that are frozen. I just about emptied out Costco's cheese section. I've checked with several companies about the shelf lives of their products, and I'm getting better at reading can codes for date of packing. I rarely eat out anymore. I stopped letting my kids buy school lunches.
I have an RO water filter which I've had since I bought my house. It is a Kinetico model which cost about $1000 six years ago. I remember when it was installed that the installer mentioned about being able to drink the water from it even if there was a nuclear accident ( I live near a nuclear plant.) I guess it's a good thing to have now.
I guess I'm as nutty and the best of them. I'm trying to not worry about everything and am trying to make the best decisions with the information I have. That's all we can do, I suppose.
Yes, we made the following
Yes, we made the following changes:
-bottled water for the toddler, filtered for us
-milk: we drink oatmilk and I also got some milk with long-shelf life (6 months), I hope it was packaged before March events
-Eat more frozen veggies (again, I hope they were packed before March events, but I don't know for sure) instead of fresh; it's mostly true of green veggies like spinach etc.
- Try to buy fruits/berries etc from Mexico
- I bought kelp powder to add to food but forget to do it
- We stay at home when it rains
- I am taking regular multivitamin that has some iodine; not sure what to do for my toddler (?)
Most people think I am crazy :)
I live in the state of WA
I live in the state of WA and have a 13 month old grandson-my only grandson. I am heart-sick. I am attempting to give him bottled or distilled water, frozen veggies, soy milk, keeping him out of the rain, taking off shoes and leaving jackets in the hall closet. My son and daughter-in-law and husband are often irritated and sometimes angry with me and probably are doing things that counter what I am attempting to do. No one I know in this area is doing anything like I am doing but then few if any know much about radiation or care to research. I am a member of Group Health who is giving us no direction as to how to care for babies or pregnant women in our state in light of the Japanese nuclear disaster. I did corner my grandbaby's doctor into saying that no amount of radioactive iodine or cesium should be in his milk or water.
State of WA grandma
Please check out risks of soy for children by doing google research. We have to be careful that by changing diet we are not causing other problems. Check with your pediatrician
I've changed my diet because
I've changed my diet because of the incident, not the levels. I didn't have levels when I first heard something happened. When I read Iodine was detected in Japan, I bought powdered milk and seaweed, since KI was sold out.
I wanted the KI when I heard on the radio that a *voluntary* evacuation warning for the tsunami got a 50% response from Santa Cruz residents, and that was still enough to block emergency vehicles. KI should be taken pre-exposure, or at least 30 minutes after, up to about 4 hours. (Sorry, can't find the link anymore; it was a government source.) Since I seriously doubt the government has enough, with population increases, to distribute around nuclear plants, never mind up and down the whole coast, and I KNOW they can't get it out in 30 minutes, I plan to buy when it's available.
When politicians said "Don't panic, no danger, radiation won't hurt us here" when the rad net was something like 15-20% down? I bought canned/frozen/dried food. Plus I have a freezer full of last year's garden produce. And earthquake supplies, of course. If nothing else, I've saved on food when inflation hits.
The levels, after looking at what Europe went through, aren't currently that frightening to me. Even with the levels they received, the health of the population is higher over there than here. (Of course that might be because most of them have national health care.)
BUT the reactors still aren't under control. And politicians in Japan and here reacted as usual by minimizing the danger. I'm furious that Japan didn't immediately evacuate all the heavily contaminated regions. I doubt the government was as prepared as it was advertised to be. Reminds me of TMI. Initial response to a nuclear disaster HAS to be fast to minimize contamination. I don't see politicians, faced with any past nuclear problem, EVER responded in a way I would trust.
I'm currently buying distilled water. Not just because of levels, but a final straw after cloramines and fluride. If water IS contaminated I doubt the EPA will tell me until too late. Eventually I'll add a whole house water filter of some kind. I'll eat produce from my garden, after amending the soil to decrease radioactive uptake.
And I'm learning to grow sprouts.
I'll eat produce from my
I'll eat produce from my garden, after amending the soil to decrease radioactive uptake.
How exactly do you amend the soil?
Because plants (and animals)
Because plants (and animals) mistake Cs137 for potassium and Sr90 for calcium, amending soils with calcium and potassium decreases the uptake of those radionuclides. Too much nitrogen stimulates plant growth and apparently with that comes increased Cs137 and Sr90 uptake. There's a lot of literature out there, but here's one sample.
http://www-pub.iaea.org/MTCD/publications/PDF/TRS424_web.pdf
Also, different plant species take up different amounts of radionuclides. Apparently beets, mustard, chard, quinoa, and spinach highly concentrate Cs137. I'm not happy to see a lot of my favorites on the list of accumulators. Going to have to start going through seed catalogs again.
http://rydberg.biology.colostate.edu/Phytoremediation/2008%20websites/BZ...
http://www.organicsforall.org/vegetables3.htm
Dang. Sad to see tomatoes
Dang. Sad to see tomatoes are on the list of radiocesium accumulators. I need tomatoes!
Thanks for the info, EQP. I
Thanks for the info, EQP. I wonder how many home veggie gardeners on the west coast are taking precautions like this.
Rejected Foods and Michio Kaku:Fukushima's Problems Not Over
We too are abstaining from milk. You should see how often the alternative nut milks and non-dairy creamers are low or wiped out at the grocery stores in our area of Reno, NV! I have the last of my big tub of Yoghurt made by Mountain High in Colorado, since concentrated dairy foods such as yoghurt will have higher concentrations of any present I-131, Cs-137, Ru or even Co-60 and NONE of the CDC milk monitoring/sampling is covering Colorado I have to assume that perhaps Colorado may be showing high amounts similar to those found in AZ milk.
I also reject all seafood since the massive release of radionuclides into the ocean and the fact that the ocean really is an industrial and military sewer-why would I want to ingest that one fish that undetected by vendors or myself may be the one with just the right amound of nuclear material to cause me to come down with some nasty disease like leukemia, lymphoma or any other cancer known by science and our VA (yes, Veterans's Administration) to exist with greater prevalence due to toxics not present or as commonly so since prior to 1946. Mushrooms not labeled as 'hothouse' grown along with spinach and spinach family vegetables are similarly screened for per our VA Dr's recommendation which reinforces what we found online. I realize that if the vegetable tends to be a known concentrator of stable elements such as Calcium or Potassium it will have higher uptake of the I-131, Cs-137 etc. My guess is those in the brassica family such as cabbage, broccoli, brussels sprouts and local or canned fruit/tomatoes might be better to be consuming for the next couple of months along with the nut-milks in place of dairy. Problem is, overconsumption of cabbage/brassica family is also goitrogenic meaning they block absorption of Iodine to the thyroid.
The problems with Fukushima are far from over, the media is overly quiet and I notice the last 3 days of no mention of Fukushima on the radio or TV. Only the Internet gives access to important replays of less mainstream media such as was posted here, including an interview with famous physicist, Michio Kaku whose relatives in Tokyo have already voluntarily self evacuated from Japan completely which is a big statement on the reality of the situation along with Kaku's evaluation that Fukushima will take as long as 10 years to be resolved with the first year being the one where stopping the continuous release will be the first step to the lengthy process.
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/no-japans-nuclear-reactors-are-not-stable
No, Japan's Nuclear Reactors Are Not "Stable"
Submitted by George Washington on 04/13/2011 15:33 -0400
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The Japanese government and Tepco claim that the nuclear reactors are "stable" and that radiation releases have subsided to low levels.
But world renowned physicist Michio Kaku - who studied under atom bomb developer Edward Teller - told Democracy Now today:
Tokyo Electric has been in denial, trying to downplay the full impact of this nuclear accident. However, there’s a formula, a mathematical formula, by which you can determine what level this accident is. This accident has already released something on the order of 50,000 trillion becquerels of radiation. You do the math. That puts it right smack in the middle of a level 7 nuclear accident. Still, less than Chernobyl. However, radiation is continuing to leak out of the reactors. The situation is not stable at all. So, you’re looking at basically a ticking time bomb. It appears stable, but the slightest disturbance—a secondary earthquake, a pipe break, evacuation of the crew at Fukushima—could set off a full-scale meltdown at three nuclear power stations, far beyond what we saw at Chernobyl.
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When the utility says that things are stable, it’s only stable in the sense that you’re dangling from a cliff hanging by your fingernails. And as the time goes by, each fingernail starts to crack. That’s the situation now.
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TEPCO is like the little Dutch boy. All of a sudden we have cracks in the dike. You put a finger here, you put a finger there. And all of a sudden, new leaks start to occur, and they’re overwhelmed.
I suggest that they be removed from leadership entirely and be put as consultants. An international team of top physicists and engineers should take over
I suggested the same thing with regards to BP during the Gulf oil spill.
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by ZerOhead
on Wed, 04/13/2011 - 16:18
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Not good news.
When world renowned physicist Michio Kaku tells us his relatives are considering evacuating Tokyo... well... figure it out for yourself.
We are perhaps several years from the point in time that a Chernobyl-like sarcophagus 'solution' can be implemented... plus at any time things could go 'nuclear'.
Time for some outside of the box ideas.
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by flattrader
on Wed, 04/13/2011 - 16:25
#1166633
And what's coming out of Kan is frankly just schizo--
[He's now admitted to an "uninhabitable" area...which will no doubt expand as the reactors fail to stabilize and the winds change. How long before Toyota, Nissan, Sony and chip fab plants get engulfed?]
Wednesday, April 13, 2011
Japan's Prime Minister Kan: "Evacuation Zone Will Be Uninhabitable"
According to Yomiuri, that's what Kan said to one of his special advisors Kenichi Matsumoto:
Talking about the evacuation zone around the Fukushima I Nuclear Power Plant, Kan said "It will be uninhabitable for a while. For 10 years, maybe 20 years," Matsumoto disclosed to the press.
Tuesday, April 12, 2011
#TEPCO's President to Hold Press Conference at 3PM JST
In the press conference of Prime Minister Kan on April 12 (in Japanese), Kan outlined his plan for "recovery and rebuilding" after the earthquake/tsunami on a 1 month (and a day) anniversary of the March 11 earthquake/tsunami; while he did mention the Fukushima I Nuke Plant, it was in the context of "stabilization". He said the government is waiting for TEPCO to submit the prospect of how the whole situation may be resolved. (Good luck with that.)
He concluded his speech by asking the citizens to "buy goods produced in the affected areas, use them, or eat them, and enjoy" so that Japan recovers.
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by ZerOhead
on Wed, 04/13/2011 - 16:47
#1166710
The stakes for Japan are simply enormous. Any attempt to protect the populace by increasing the evacuation zone radius (as proposed by numerous international agencies) also serves to bring pressures on Tokyo and the productive heartland of the nation. And just where the hell can you evacuate millions of citizens to?
Denial of the magnitude of the situation at hand and praying for favorable winds and a yet to be identified solution is his only option.
I would however like to see all members of the Diet (including their families) eat and enjoy the same produce they profess is safe for others.
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by TJW
on Wed, 04/13/2011 - 18:00
#1166924
"Denial of the magnitude of the situation at hand and praying for favorable winds and a yet to be identified solution is his only option."
Sounds like the way US politicians are dealing with our fiscal disaster.
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by Bicycle Repairman
on Thu, 04/14/2011 - 06:45
#1168104
Which in turn is how the Japanese dealt with their economic crisis.
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by Buck Johnson
on Wed, 04/13/2011 - 20:22
#1167317
And that is the 64,000 dollar question, where do you evacuate people too? In fact if my predictions are correct and if 1/3 to 2/3 of Japan becomes uninhabitable, these people may try to get to Australia and New Zealand. I love Michiu, but he left out the nastier radiation particles that will stay for years if not thousands of year. And that is Cesium-137 (30 years), strontium (28 years), and Plutonium-239 and 241 (24,100 years).
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by melvynny
on Wed, 04/13/2011 - 18:11
#1166950
Kan trumps Bush's stupidity. On 9/12/01, our president proclaimed the WTC neighborhood was pollution free--everyone go home and open the NYSE. In a couple of weeks, I expect Kan to prove his Bushiness--to blame the Tsunami on terrorists.
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by HedgeCock
on Wed, 04/13/2011 - 16:59
#1166766
Yeah, the part that really stuck out for me too was Kaku saying that some of his relatives that have little children have already evacuated from Tokyo. If that isn't telling then I don't know what is.
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by InconvenientCou...
on Wed, 04/13/2011 - 17:19
#1166836
Japan had a well documented demographic problem before this disaster. I don't think any pregnant woman will be within 100 miles of the plant and that puts Tokyo in play.
Japan is on the verge of failing as a soverign.
Lifestyle changes
Great thread-thanks for starting it (and as usual Rick gave his gold-minted opinions). I was able to buy powdered milk and some condensed, and currently using the non-fat powder since it is natural. I live in CA also and in my experience, most stores carry produce from Mexico and SA year round since they grow "summer" items in our winter, and because they are cheaper than US foods (but I go to local stores vs chains). So, I'm trying to buy as much as possible from down south, and whatever I can't, well, I try to minimize the green leafy ones, etc. Cheese being famously produced in Europe is another option, and I also heard that you can freeze it for 80 days to allow the iodine to disappear, but while this will work for the above, what about cesium etal?. Regarding meats, one can either stock up on a side of beef and freeze it, or buy salami and other aged meats since they won't yet contain radionuclides. It is tragically ironic that we have to protect our families with limiting our intake of fresh, wholesome, delicious foods and drinks, because these very same are what made us happy, healthy and strong! This is why the USA populace should be screaming now in front of every city hall and the White House to destroy the illusionary denials of our leaders and demand reality! But we'll get through this somehow and pick up again in the near future.